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g-200 felspar change - now celadons

updated sat 11 oct 08

 

Eva Gallagher on sat 4 oct 08


What makes a good celadon? Being new to reduction glazing and not having
much opportunity to handle/see celadons first hand I am wondering what are
the qualities of a good celadon? It is hard to judge from just pictures. I
was very disappointed with the celadons from our firings - just a
transparent glossy glaze that was either green, amber or bluish, depending
on the glaze composition. What am I missing?

Eva Gallagher
Deep River, Ontario
http://stevenhilljourneyworkshopjuly2008.blogspot.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vince Pitelka"
To:
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: G-200 Felspar Change


> Mike Gordon wrote:
> "Could you give a simple explanation of the term celadon? I have seen a
> brownish glaze called celadon & now we are talking about a bluish
> celadon. Is it a type of glaze or a color or what?"
>
> Mike -
> As is so often the case, there is no simple answer. Potters of the Han
> and
> Tang Dynasties in China created greenish glazes to imitate the color of
> bronze, inspired by the incredible bronze-casting cultures of the Shang
> and
> Zhou Dynasties. Potters of the late Tang and the Song Dynasties created
> greenish and blue-green glazes to imitate the appearance of certain kinds
> of
> jade. The imperial taste for jade was a powerful driving force. Those
> were
> the first celadon glazes. So, as you can see, there is lots of room for
> interpretation of the word "celadon." It can be a glaze that imitates the
> appearance of aged bronze, or it can be a glaze that imitates the
> appearance
> of jade, and there are lots of variables in both materials and thus the
> interpretations in a glaze. Don't try to pin celadon down to something so
> specific.
> - Vince
>
> Vince Pitelka
> Appalachian Center for Craft
> Tennessee Tech University
> vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka
>
>

Ivor and Olive Lewis on mon 6 oct 08


Dear Eva Gallagher,
You ask:

<having much opportunity to handle/see celadons first hand I am
wondering what are
the qualities of a good celadon? >>

Astounding clarity and intensity of hue seem to me to be two of the
main objectives. Robert Tichane explains the Science of doing this in
simple easily understandable terms.

You may have to prepare many samples of four basic ingredients; A
Felspar, some form of Silica, Some form of Calcium Carbonate, and a
Kaolin. Choose whichever sampling method you wish and get to work.
Should you wish to do this I certainly recommend you first read the
book by Robert Tichane, "Celadon Blues", ISBN 0-87341-667-8. This is
the Second Edition and has excellent full colour illustrations.
I wish you success in your venture.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.

Ron Roy on fri 10 oct 08


Hi Eva,

Many cleadons have a special kind of transparency - they go light over
raised lines for instance - very effective for accentuating slip and carved
designs.

The best of them have a depth and transparency that is quite magical.

When you are in Toronto the Royal Ontario Museum has one of the best
Chinese Pottery collections in the world - you will see many celadon glazed
pots with carved designs.

Try brushing slip into a bowl - you will see how a shiny celadon glaze will
show every brush stroke.

RR

>What makes a good celadon? Being new to reduction glazing and not having
>much opportunity to handle/see celadons first hand I am wondering what are
>the qualities of a good celadon? It is hard to judge from just pictures. I
>was very disappointed with the celadons from our firings - just a
>transparent glossy glaze that was either green, amber or bluish, depending
>on the glaze composition. What am I missing?
>
>Eva Gallagher

Ron Roy
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0

Eva Gallagher on fri 10 oct 08


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ivor and Olive Lewis"
To:
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: G-200 Felspar Change - now celadons


> Dear Eva Gallagher,
> You ask:
>
> <> having much opportunity to handle/see celadons first hand I am
> wondering what are
> the qualities of a good celadon? >>
>
> Astounding clarity and intensity of hue seem to me to be two of the
> main objectives. Robert Tichane explains the Science of doing this in
> simple easily understandable terms.
>
> You may have to prepare many samples of four basic ingredients; A
> Felspar, some form of Silica, Some form of Calcium Carbonate, and a
> Kaolin. Choose whichever sampling method you wish and get to work.
> Should you wish to do this I certainly recommend you first read the
> book by Robert Tichane, "Celadon Blues", ISBN 0-87341-667-8. This is
> the Second Edition and has excellent full colour illustrations.
> I wish you success in your venture.
> Best regards,
> Ivor Lewis.
> Redhill,
> South Australia.
>
>