Steve Slatin on tue 7 oct 08
Wayne --
I must dispute your vile canard against Joe
the mechanic with his Vega. Even new, there
was never 5 quarts of oil left in a Vega
engine when the oil was changed. 3 max.
(What a Vega couldn't burn it generally
dripped in the driveway.) No way a whole
5 quarts go into the storm drain.
Steve S
--- On Tue, 10/7/08, W J Seidl wrote:
> Allyson:
> That guy did not lead you astray. The chemicals they use
> to flocculate
> the solids from the liquid waste stream do a darn fine job
> of removing
> nearly everything. What minor fine solids don't get
> removed goes (with
> the water) into settlement ponds, where it precipitates out
> to the bottom.
> Once the water either evaporates or is removed (depending
> on the
> system), the sludge that is left is scooped up, burned and
> either sold
> as fertilizer additive or buried. Your minor chemical
> contribution is
> far less damaging to the environment than the 5 quarts of
> waste oil "Joe
> Idiot the Hammer Mechanic" dumps down a storm drain
> after changing the
> oil in his Vega. Come to think of it, the chemicals they
> use to
> flocculate the waste are more hazardous than what
> you're adding to the
> waste stream.
>
> You can thank The Discovery Channel for that
> information...along with a
> couple episodes of "Dirty Jobs" .
> Dump your slop with a clear conscience.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Seidl
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On
> Behalf Of Allyson May
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:00 AM
> > To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> > Subject: Spraying Outside
> >
> > Hey Folks,
> >
> > I live in Bloomington, Indiana which is a pretty
> "green" place. I was
> > concerned about how to dispose of my slop glaze as
> well as spraying
> > glaze outside so I went down to the recycle center and
> had a chat with
> > the guy in charge of hazardous waste. He asked a few
> questions about
> > what was in my glazes and then told me to wash them
> down the drain. I
> > was a little shocked but he said that the water
> treatment plant could
> > take care of everything in my glazes. He also said
> that there was not
> > enough material in my glazes to be concerned about
> spraying them
> > outside. Now, I don't use lead or cadmium or
> barium but I do raku fire
> > so there is a lot of copper, cobalt, manganese.... I
> still haven't
> > emptied my slop glaze bucket because I just can't
> bring myself to wash
> > that stuff down the drain even if this guy thinks its
> alright. I do
> > spray outside (away from the veg garden and fruit
> trees) but I still
> > worry about the build up of chemicals.
> >
> > Peace,
> > Allyson May
> > Stoney Creek Pottery
> > Bloomington, IN
> >
> >
Allyson May on tue 7 oct 08
Hey Folks,
I live in Bloomington, Indiana which is a pretty "green" place. I was =
concerned about how to dispose of my slop glaze as well as spraying =
glaze outside so I went down to the recycle center and had a chat with =
the guy in charge of hazardous waste. He asked a few questions about =
what was in my glazes and then told me to wash them down the drain. I =
was a little shocked but he said that the water treatment plant could =
take care of everything in my glazes. He also said that there was not =
enough material in my glazes to be concerned about spraying them =
outside. Now, I don't use lead or cadmium or barium but I do raku fire =
so there is a lot of copper, cobalt, manganese.... I still haven't =
emptied my slop glaze bucket because I just can't bring myself to wash =
that stuff down the drain even if this guy thinks its alright. I do =
spray outside (away from the veg garden and fruit trees) but I still =
worry about the build up of chemicals.
Peace,
Allyson May
Stoney Creek Pottery
Bloomington, IN
Weiland, Jeff on tue 7 oct 08
I know that I read this here on Clayart before. Not my Idea...but, just
fire it into a solid and dispose of. I guess that would be one way of
getting rid of an "ugly". Who knows...maybe it could turn out really
interesting.
Jeff Weiland
Greenfield-Central High School
810 North Broadway
Greenfield, Indiana 46140
317-462-9211
jweiland@gcsc.k12.in.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Allyson May
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:00 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Spraying Outside
Hey Folks,
I live in Bloomington, Indiana which is a pretty "green" place. I was
concerned about how to dispose of my slop glaze as well as spraying
glaze outside so I went down to the recycle center and had a chat with
the guy in charge of hazardous waste. He asked a few questions about
what was in my glazes and then told me to wash them down the drain. I
was a little shocked but he said that the water treatment plant could
take care of everything in my glazes. He also said that there was not
enough material in my glazes to be concerned about spraying them
outside. Now, I don't use lead or cadmium or barium but I do raku fire
so there is a lot of copper, cobalt, manganese.... I still haven't
emptied my slop glaze bucket because I just can't bring myself to wash
that stuff down the drain even if this guy thinks its alright. I do
spray outside (away from the veg garden and fruit trees) but I still
worry about the build up of chemicals.
Peace,
Allyson May
Stoney Creek Pottery
Bloomington, IN
Elizabeth Priddy on tue 7 oct 08
If you dry that slop out and make it into a powder pancake, you
can fire it inside a bowl and then hammer it back into pretty, inert, rock =
gravel.
=A0
Then you can scatter it with little environmental impact.
=A0
It would probably be more "green" than what happens to the chemical waste=
=20
the water guys extract.=A0=20
Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA
Workshops and pottery online at:
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
Natural Instincts Conference Information:
http://downtothepottershouse.com/NaturalInstincts.html
Kiln pictures and such:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7973282@N03/
--- On Tue, 10/7/08, Allyson May wrote:
From: Allyson May
Subject: Spraying Outside
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 5:59 AM
Hey Folks,
I live in Bloomington, Indiana which is a pretty "green" place. I
was concerned about how to dispose of my slop glaze as well as spraying gla=
ze
outside so I went down to the recycle center and had a chat with the guy in
charge of hazardous waste. He asked a few questions about what was in my g=
lazes
and then told me to wash them down the drain. I was a little shocked but h=
e
said that the water treatment plant could take care of everything in my gla=
zes.=20
He also said that there was not enough material in my glazes to be concerne=
d
about spraying them outside. Now, I don't use lead or cadmium or barium bu=
t
I do raku fire so there is a lot of copper, cobalt, manganese.... I still
haven't emptied my slop glaze bucket because I just can't bring myself
to wash that stuff down the drain even if this guy thinks its alright. I d=
o
spray outside (away from the veg garden and fruit trees) but I still worry =
about
the build up of chemicals.
Peace,
Allyson May
Stoney Creek Pottery
Bloomington, IN
=0A=0A=0A
Karin Givon on tue 7 oct 08
I have a friend that does this. She's very eco conscious and works at
college of the redwoods in Fort Bragg. It works great and she then
doesn't have to deal with (a lot) of leftevers weird combo glaze.
there's also a bucket there for leftover glaze and that bucket
produces some pretty interesting and useable if not repeatable glazes!
Karin
dancingdragonpottery.net
On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:56 AM, Weiland, Jeff wrote:
I know that I read this here on Clayart before. Not my Idea...but, just
fire it into a solid and dispose of. I guess that would be one way of
getting rid of an "ugly". Who knows...maybe it could turn out really
interesting.
Jeff Weiland
Greenfield-Central High School
810 North Broadway
Greenfield, Indiana 46140
317-462-9211
jweiland@gcsc.k12.in.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Allyson May
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:00 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Spraying Outside
Hey Folks,
I live in Bloomington, Indiana which is a pretty "green" place. I was
concerned about how to dispose of my slop glaze as well as spraying
glaze outside so I went down to the recycle center and had a chat with
the guy in charge of hazardous waste. He asked a few questions about
what was in my glazes and then told me to wash them down the drain. I
was a little shocked but he said that the water treatment plant could
take care of everything in my glazes. He also said that there was not
enough material in my glazes to be concerned about spraying them
outside. Now, I don't use lead or cadmium or barium but I do raku fire
so there is a lot of copper, cobalt, manganese.... I still haven't
emptied my slop glaze bucket because I just can't bring myself to wash
that stuff down the drain even if this guy thinks its alright. I do
spray outside (away from the veg garden and fruit trees) but I still
worry about the build up of chemicals.
Peace,
Allyson May
Stoney Creek Pottery
Bloomington, IN
W J Seidl on tue 7 oct 08
Allyson:
That guy did not lead you astray. The chemicals they use to flocculate
the solids from the liquid waste stream do a darn fine job of removing
nearly everything. What minor fine solids don't get removed goes (with
the water) into settlement ponds, where it precipitates out to the bottom.
Once the water either evaporates or is removed (depending on the
system), the sludge that is left is scooped up, burned and either sold
as fertilizer additive or buried. Your minor chemical contribution is
far less damaging to the environment than the 5 quarts of waste oil "Joe
Idiot the Hammer Mechanic" dumps down a storm drain after changing the
oil in his Vega. Come to think of it, the chemicals they use to
flocculate the waste are more hazardous than what you're adding to the
waste stream.
You can thank The Discovery Channel for that information...along with a
couple episodes of "Dirty Jobs" .
Dump your slop with a clear conscience.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Allyson May
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:00 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Spraying Outside
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> I live in Bloomington, Indiana which is a pretty "green" place. I was
> concerned about how to dispose of my slop glaze as well as spraying
> glaze outside so I went down to the recycle center and had a chat with
> the guy in charge of hazardous waste. He asked a few questions about
> what was in my glazes and then told me to wash them down the drain. I
> was a little shocked but he said that the water treatment plant could
> take care of everything in my glazes. He also said that there was not
> enough material in my glazes to be concerned about spraying them
> outside. Now, I don't use lead or cadmium or barium but I do raku fire
> so there is a lot of copper, cobalt, manganese.... I still haven't
> emptied my slop glaze bucket because I just can't bring myself to wash
> that stuff down the drain even if this guy thinks its alright. I do
> spray outside (away from the veg garden and fruit trees) but I still
> worry about the build up of chemicals.
>
> Peace,
> Allyson May
> Stoney Creek Pottery
> Bloomington, IN
>
>
W J Seidl on wed 8 oct 08
Oops!
One addendum to my post below.
If you are on a septic system, and NOT on city sewer, that does not apply.
Sorry if I caused any confusion with that.
For septic systems, diluting the slop with water and using it for
"ornamental" plants might be the best option,
or pour it into the ground over your leach field. I would not be
comfortable using it on garden plants (AKA food),
but that's a personal preference.
With a septic system (well, a newer one) leach fields are required in
most areas to be at least 100-200 feet from any well
and so should not EVER affect your groundwater...or your neighbors.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
Waite Maine
where moose hunting is in it's second week (sigh)
W J Seidl wrote:
> Allyson:
> That guy did not lead you astray. The chemicals they use to flocculate
> the solids from the liquid waste stream do a darn fine job of removing
> nearly everything. What minor fine solids don't get removed goes (with
> the water) into settlement ponds, where it precipitates out to the
> bottom.
> Once the water either evaporates or is removed (depending on the
> system), the sludge that is left is scooped up, burned and either sold
> as fertilizer additive or buried. Your minor chemical contribution is
> far less damaging to the environment than the 5 quarts of waste oil "Joe
> Idiot the Hammer Mechanic" dumps down a storm drain after changing the
> oil in his Vega. Come to think of it, the chemicals they use to
> flocculate the waste are more hazardous than what you're adding to the
> waste stream.
>
> You can thank The Discovery Channel for that information...along with a
> couple episodes of "Dirty Jobs" .
> Dump your slop with a clear conscience.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Seidl
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