Bonnie Hellman on mon 3 nov 08
A friend has a 50 year old (valuable and beautiful) blackware pot from San
Ildefonso that her mother had purchased, and left on the top of a kitchen
cabinet. This pot has acquired a coating of hardened kitchen grease and
dirt, and my friend would like to clean it, and is wondering what to use, so
as not to damage the original appearance.
Any suggestions?
TIA for your help.
Bonnie
Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427
Mary Driever on tue 4 nov 08
could try peanut butter it removes gummy things and tree tars, but I still
like the googone orange oil because it is not acidy very normal ph and it wipes
very clean, just never use a scrubber because that will scratch the surface
only a soft cloth used to use peanut butter to get gum out of the kids hair.
In a message dated 11/4/2008 7:15:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
kef@KFORER.COM writes:
On Nov 4, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Bunny wrote:
> We used vinegar mixed with a little water and that seemed to cut the
> gunk
> really quick!
Vinegar works well. Whatever you use, try not to scrub. You might want
to soak it in soapy or vinegary water and let the grease dissolve that
way. Let the water lift the dirt out.
Kathy Forer
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Kris Bliss on tue 4 nov 08
wow , that's a hard one...
i wonder if fire? would the grease burn off before the
burnishing?
i don't think any "grease fighting" chemical would be
good.. surely would harm the finish...
i look forward to seeing if anyone has an answer.
bliss
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Bonnie
Hellman
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:04 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Blackware with kitchen grease-how to clean?
A friend has a 50 year old (valuable and beautiful) blackware pot from San
Ildefonso that her mother had purchased, and left on the top of a kitchen
cabinet. This pot has acquired a coating of hardened kitchen grease and
dirt, and my friend would like to clean it, and is wondering what to use, so
as not to damage the original appearance.
Any suggestions?
TIA for your help.
Bonnie
Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427
Mary Driever on tue 4 nov 08
since lidelfonso has not been glazed, the burnished finish is fired in. I
use a product called goo gone to clean sticky things like this. It is not
abrasive and non drying orange oil. It works for me on any finish I have never
damaged anything use a soft cloth.
In a message dated 11/4/2008 9:21:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
mou10ms@FRONTIER.NET writes:
A friend has a 50 year old (valuable and beautiful) blackware pot from San
Ildefonso that her mother had purchased, and left on the top of a kitchen
cabinet. This pot has acquired a coating of hardened kitchen grease and
dirt, and my friend would like to clean it, and is wondering what to use, so
as not to damage the original appearance.
Any suggestions?
TIA for your help.
Bonnie
Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427
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Mike Gordon on tue 4 nov 08
Try a soft cloth & vegetable oil. Mike Gordon
On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Bonnie Hellman wrote:
> A friend has a 50 year old (valuable and beautiful) blackware pot from
> San
> Ildefonso that her mother had purchased, and left on the top of a
> kitchen
> cabinet. This pot has acquired a coating of hardened kitchen grease and
> dirt, and my friend would like to clean it, and is wondering what to
> use, so
> as not to damage the original appearance.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> TIA for your help.
> Bonnie
>
> Bonnie D. Hellman
> Ouray, Colorado 81427
>
Bunny on tue 4 nov 08
I don't know if this will help or not, but I recently just had to clean up
my father's house (had to put him in an Alz home) and he was a heavy smoker
so everything was coated in that gross sticky yellow gunk.
We first tried cleaning products, but that didn't seem to cut it, so we went
'green' so to speak.
We used vinegar mixed with a little water and that seemed to cut the gunk
really quick!
The yellow appliances are once again white, all the knick-knacks and good
vases, etc. are now clean and back to their original colors. I was truly
amazed that everything became clean and bright again.
Like I said, I have no idea if this will work for you or not, but it is
worth a try. Please let me know if this works for your friend.
Bunny
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Subject: Blackware with kitchen grease-how to clean?
A friend has a 50 year old (valuable and beautiful) blackware pot from San
Ildefonso that her mother had purchased, and left on the top of a kitchen
cabinet. This pot has acquired a coating of hardened kitchen grease and
dirt, and my friend would like to clean it, and is wondering what to use, so
as not to damage the original appearance.
Any suggestions?
TIA for your help.
Bonnie
Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427
Kathy Forer on tue 4 nov 08
On Nov 4, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Bunny wrote:
> We used vinegar mixed with a little water and that seemed to cut the
> gunk
> really quick!
Vinegar works well. Whatever you use, try not to scrub. You might want
to soak it in soapy or vinegary water and let the grease dissolve that
way. Let the water lift the dirt out.
Kathy Forer
kef@kforer.com
Jeanette Harris on wed 5 nov 08
Vinegar and a bit of salt for abrasion is a great combo.
If you're desperate, find a product called ZEP, a hideously orange
liquid in a spritz bottle. I don't know what's in it, but it sure
cuts the grease off of everything. Works great on metals, appliances,
plastic, (you have to rinse it off right away), and it really cleans
bathroom fixtures to a shine. Not recommended for glass or fabrics,
but I haven't found it's equal.
Try a bit on the bottom of the pot to test first.
Cheers,
Jeanette
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Jeanette Harris
Washingzona
Peggy Thompson on wed 5 nov 08
I strongly suggest going to a site that has such a collection and asking
this question and not trying these suggestions due to the fact that if you
chose smething not in keping with standards that would preserve the value
of the piece it may be a bad choice if its value is important.Antiques
Roadshow often has stories on how cleaning pieces ruins their original
value.
Margaret in SC
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Mary Driever wrote:
> could try peanut butter it removes gummy things and tree tars, but I still
> like the googone orange oil because it is not acidy very normal ph and it
> wipes
> very clean, just never use a scrubber because that will scratch the
> surface
> only a soft cloth used to use peanut butter to get gum out of the kids
> hair.
>
>
> In a message dated 11/4/2008 7:15:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> kef@KFORER.COM writes:
>
> On Nov 4, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Bunny wrote:
>
> > We used vinegar mixed with a little water and that seemed to cut the
> > gunk
> > really quick!
>
> Vinegar works well. Whatever you use, try not to scrub. You might want
> to soak it in soapy or vinegary water and let the grease dissolve that
> way. Let the water lift the dirt out.
>
>
> Kathy Forer
> kef@kforer.com
>
>
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Bonnie Hellman on wed 5 nov 08
Thanks to everyone who replied to this question. I forwarded all your emails
to my friend.
We had talked about the problem and I suggested telephoning the museums that
collect and preserve blackware of this vintage, and then I told our friends
I'd post the question on clayart.
Bonnie
Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peggy Thompson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Blackware with kitchen grease-how to clean?
>I strongly suggest going to a site that has such a collection and asking
> this question and not trying these suggestions due to the fact that if you
> chose smething not in keping with standards that would preserve the value
> of the piece it may be a bad choice if its value is important.Antiques
> Roadshow often has stories on how cleaning pieces ruins their original
> value.
> Margaret in SC
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Mary Driever wrote:
>
>> could try peanut butter it removes gummy things and tree tars, but I
>> still
>> like the googone orange oil because it is not acidy very normal ph and it
>> wipes
>> very clean, just never use a scrubber because that will scratch the
>> surface
>> only a soft cloth used to use peanut butter to get gum out of the kids
>> hair.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/4/2008 7:15:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> kef@KFORER.COM writes:
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Bunny wrote:
>>
>> > We used vinegar mixed with a little water and that seemed to cut the
>> > gunk
>> > really quick!
>>
>> Vinegar works well. Whatever you use, try not to scrub. You might want
>> to soak it in soapy or vinegary water and let the grease dissolve that
>> way. Let the water lift the dirt out.
>>
>>
>> Kathy Forer
>> kef@kforer.com
>>
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Jane Aebersold on sat 8 nov 08
Bonnie,
Please tell her not to do anything to it without talking first to a
specialist. The Denver Museum of Art has a superb American Indian
collection and I believe they have a conservation department. She should
look on the bottom for a sig, and if she has information speciifc to the
purchase, that is important also.
If she would like to contact me, I'd be happy to talk with her more about
it.
Jane
Jane Ford Aebersold
Curator of Ceramics, Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art
the University of Oklahoma
jane@ou.edu
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Bonnie Hellman wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who replied to this question. I forwarded all your
> emails
> to my friend.
>
> We had talked about the problem and I suggested telephoning the museums
> that
> collect and preserve blackware of this vintage, and then I told our friends
> I'd post the question on clayart.
>
> Bonnie
>
> Bonnie D. Hellman
> Ouray, Colorado 81427
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peggy Thompson"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Blackware with kitchen grease-how to clean?
>
>
> I strongly suggest going to a site that has such a collection and asking
>> this question and not trying these suggestions due to the fact that if you
>> chose smething not in keping with standards that would preserve the value
>> of the piece it may be a bad choice if its value is important.Antiques
>> Roadshow often has stories on how cleaning pieces ruins their original
>> value.
>> Margaret in SC
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Mary Driever wrote:
>>
>> could try peanut butter it removes gummy things and tree tars, but I
>>> still
>>> like the googone orange oil because it is not acidy very normal ph and it
>>> wipes
>>> very clean, just never use a scrubber because that will scratch the
>>> surface
>>> only a soft cloth used to use peanut butter to get gum out of the kids
>>> hair.
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/4/2008 7:15:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>> kef@KFORER.COM writes:
>>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Bunny wrote:
>>>
>>> > We used vinegar mixed with a little water and that seemed to cut the
>>> > gunk
>>> > really quick!
>>>
>>> Vinegar works well. Whatever you use, try not to scrub. You might want
>>> to soak it in soapy or vinegary water and let the grease dissolve that
>>> way. Let the water lift the dirt out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kathy Forer
>>> kef@kforer.com
>>>
>>>
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