Elliott Faure on sat 9 may 09
Hello all,Say, does anyone know any further information on wood fired kilns
built according to the "Feller" design?
Wikipedia has a little blurb and there is a single French site who has a
Feller kiln, but Google comes up with not much really useful. I am looking
for any information on building them and pictures etc.
Thanks
Elliott Faure
Des & Jan Howard on sun 10 may 09
Elliott
Taking the passage from the Wiki entry:
"Feller Kiln brought contemporary design to wood firing
by re-using the unburnt gas from the chimney in order
to heat the air up before entering the firebox. This
leads to an even shorter firing cycle and less wood
consumption. This design requires external ventilation
to prevent the in-chimney radiator from melting, being
typically in metal. The result is a very efficient wood
kiln firing one cubic meter of ceramics with one cubic
meter of wood."
Snort! Not entirely waffle, just mostly waffle.
Using an in-chimney metal recuperator or regenerator
with external ventilation, most likely a powered
blower, is a cumbersome & overly complex method
compared to using what is called a 'Bourry Box' or
down-draught firebox system for wood firing.
Raid the piggy bank & get a copy of 'Laid Back Wood
Firing' by Steve Harrison.
steve harrison
Des
Elliott Faure wrote:
> Hello all,Say, does anyone know any further information on wood fired kil=
ns
> built according to the "Feller" design?
> Wikipedia has a little blurb and there is a single French site who has a
> Feller kiln, but Google comes up with not much really useful. I am lookin=
g
> for any information on building them and pictures etc.
> Thanks
> Elliott Faure
>
>
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Tony on sun 10 may 09
I don't have any information, but I'd like to see what other information
people can offer. It looks like an interesting concept.
Tony
Sydney Australia
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From: "Elliott Faure"
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:08 AM
To:
Subject: Feller Wood Kiln design
> Hello all,Say, does anyone know any further information on wood fired
> kilns
> built according to the "Feller" design?
> Wikipedia has a little blurb and there is a single French site who has a
> Feller kiln, but Google comes up with not much really useful. I am lookin=
g
> for any information on building them and pictures etc.
> Thanks
> Elliott Faure
>
gary navarre on sun 10 may 09
I'm with ya there Des, after considering all the design the possibilities a=
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vailable at the time that is why I decided to stick the Bourry with a pigno=
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se in front of an "Anamagama". When I came up with the idea in the '70's, b=
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even try wood firing, especially without a degree or any big money behind m=
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gary navarre on sun 10 may 09
I think I read about the concept of recycling chimney gasses back into the =
primary air of the fire box to pre-heat the air in Leach or Cardew but they=
felt the extra "plumbing" and brickwork involved would increase cost over =
the gain in efficiency. I found this in Answers that gives a description & =
an interesting statistic on what is an efficiency goal...
"Feller Kiln brought contemporary design to wood firing by re-using the unb=
urnt gas from the chimney in order to heat the air up before entering the f=
irebox. This leads to an even shorter firing cycle and less wood consumptio=
n. This design requires external ventilation to prevent the in-chimney radi=
ator from melting, being typically in metal. The result is a very efficient=
wood kiln firing one cubic meter of ceramics with one cubic meter of wood.=
"
At least the cubic meter per cubic meter is something to shoot for, that's=
the first I've heard of that goal. I'm sure load density is a factor.
Gary Navarre
Navarre Pottery
Navarre Enterprises
Norway, Michigan, USA
http://www.youtube.com/GindaUP
http://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/
--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Tony wrote:
> From: Tony
> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Feller Wood Kiln design
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 11:08 PM
> I don't have any information, but I'd
> like to see what other information
> people can offer. It looks like an interesting concept.
> Tony
> Sydney Australia
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Elliott Faure"
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:08 AM
> To:
> Subject: Feller Wood Kiln design
>
> > Hello all,Say, does anyone know any further
> information on wood fired
> > kilns
> > built according to the "Feller" design?
> > Wikipedia has a little blurb and there is a single
> French site who has a
> > Feller kiln, but Google comes up with not much really
> useful. I am looking
> > for any information on building them and pictures
> etc.
> > Thanks
> > Elliott Faure
> >
>
Steve Mills on sun 10 may 09
Not all waffle;
there was an interesting discussion on preheating primary air at one of the=
presentations at NCECA. and it's something that many of us are looking ser=
iously at with a view to increasing efficiency and reducing effort and cost=
.
Steve
Bath
UK
--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Elliott Faure wrote:
From: Elliott Faure
Subject: Feller Wood Kiln design
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 10:08 PM
Hello all,Say, does anyone know any further information on wood fired kilns
built according to the "Feller" design?
Wikipedia has a little blurb and there is a single French site who has a
Feller kiln, but Google comes up with not much really useful. I am looking
for any information on building them and pictures etc.
Thanks
Elliott Faure
David Woof on thu 14 may 09
Hi Elliott=3D2C
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I'm going to make pots=3D2C load my well designed very efficient contempora=
ry=3D
woodfired kiln=3D2C and as I have been doing for many years=3D2C I will pr=
op a=3D
12 gauge sheet of metal 10 inches in front of the primary and secondary ai=
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r intakes to preheat the incoming air from the natural external radiance em=
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anating from around this area of the kiln=3D2C and fire away.
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When I've finished this activity I will shower=3D2C eat the healthy best f=
oo=3D
d I can find=3D2C drink the finest wine I can afford=3D2C twine violets in =
her =3D
hair=3D2C and make love with that little someone special often. I'll be a =
jo=3D
lly good Feller mi self.
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hese issues and there are now very energy efficient innovations=3D2C improv=
em=3D
ents and solutions that do not require complex and time consuming building =
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and subsequent maintenance. Of course=3D2C the last chapter will never be =
wr=3D
itten=3D2C but to sift through all the BS ideas that pop in our own heads a=
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someone else's one must work from a background of practical experience. GO=
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get some.
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Open minded curiosity is a necessity and an asset in whatever we endeavor. =
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But it must be tempered and directed by a working knowledge of the material=
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s=3D2C processes=3D2C physics and mechanics. Go get some.
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I wake up in the night with new designs or modifications for the next kiln =
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buzzing in my head. But if I needed to "wrench" and "motor head" with my k=
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ilns just for the sake of something to do=3D2C i would install a steam boi=
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r in the chimney to scavenge the waste heat and generate electricity which =
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I would sell back to the Grid. Offset carbon footprints and offset my annu=
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al electricity bill. But how many firings would offset the cost of the sy=
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stem to offset the .........??? Do I ponder this BS further while I mix so=
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me glazes and make love with my clay this fine Arizona A.M.? Pottery form=
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=3D2C decoration and function seems a more efficient ponder...
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David Woof Clarkdale=3D2C AZ Davidwoofstudio.com
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for any information on building them and pictures etc.
Thanks
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