Snail Scott on fri 28 aug 09
Hi-
I have an acquaintance: a young woman who
has been a self-supporting emancipated minor
for several years - working, staying in school,
and paying her own way. She recently got an
old kiln for next to nothing, and has been
teaching herself ceramics.
Unfortunately, she made an all-too-common
beginner's mistake - thinking that 'kiln wash'
was some sort of clean-up material rather than
a preventative... Attempts to remove a badly
stuck glaze accident weren't going well, so
I invited her to bring it out to my place and I'd
help her get it loose and fix up the shelf. She
was also going to sit as a model for a project
I was working on. Well...turns out she didn't
have any transportation that day, so instead of
cancelling or complaining (or even mentioning
it), she strapped that shelf to her bicycle and
rode the seven or eight hilly miles out to my
place. In avoiding a car, she hit gravel and
wiped out, resulting in minor injuries and the
total destruction of her only kiln shelf (though
the pot did finally come loose!)
I don't technically owe her anything, I suppose,
but I feel terrible about it. Unfortunately, my kiln
shelves won't fit her kiln, and I can't afford to buy
a new one for her right now.
Anyone have an old 8-sided (or similar size) shelf
or two that I could buy for a modest rate, and pick
up in the St. Louis metro area (Eastern Missouri/
southern Illinois, USA)? Messed up or broken
would still be useful and welcome; I can fix 'messed
up', and a two-part shelf is still better than what she's
got. I'd like to help this girl out. She's a hard-working
self-starter with a lot of guts who never asks for
help, but everybody needs a hand sometimes.
-Snail
Jennifer Boyer on fri 28 aug 09
Which size? 7 cu ft?
On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Snail Scott wrote:
> Hi-
>
> I have an acquaintance: a young woman who
> has been a self-supporting emancipated minor
> for several years - working, staying in school,
> and paying her own way. She recently got an
> old kiln for next to nothing, and has been
> teaching herself ceramics.
>
> Unfortunately, she made an all-too-common
> beginner's mistake - thinking that 'kiln wash'
> was some sort of clean-up material rather than
> a preventative... Attempts to remove a badly
> stuck glaze accident weren't going well, so
> I invited her to bring it out to my place and I'd
> help her get it loose and fix up the shelf. She
> was also going to sit as a model for a project
> I was working on. Well...turns out she didn't
> have any transportation that day, so instead of
> cancelling or complaining (or even mentioning
> it), she strapped that shelf to her bicycle and
> rode the seven or eight hilly miles out to my
> place. In avoiding a car, she hit gravel and
> wiped out, resulting in minor injuries and the
> total destruction of her only kiln shelf (though
> the pot did finally come loose!)
>
> I don't technically owe her anything, I suppose,
> but I feel terrible about it. Unfortunately, my kiln
> shelves won't fit her kiln, and I can't afford to buy
> a new one for her right now.
>
> Anyone have an old 8-sided (or similar size) shelf
> or two that I could buy for a modest rate, and pick
> up in the St. Louis metro area (Eastern Missouri/
> southern Illinois, USA)? Messed up or broken
> would still be useful and welcome; I can fix 'messed
> up', and a two-part shelf is still better than what she's
> got. I'd like to help this girl out. She's a hard-working
> self-starter with a lot of guts who never asks for
> help, but everybody needs a hand sometimes.
>
> -Snail
***************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
thistlehillpottery.com
jboyerdesign.com
artisanshand.com
***************************
David Woof on sun 30 aug 09
Snail=3D2C
=3D20
This one sounds like a keeper!!! =3D20
=3D20
How many of us sending $5.00 each would it take to buy this young woman 3 s=
=3D
helves and some furniture? Seems like a good time to get up and dig up f=
=3D
or a scholarship.
=3D20
This is our next generation folks=3D3B The one we old timers need to cultiv=
at=3D
e and support and encourage in tangible ways. Let's see if we can help br=
=3D
ing her bright shining face to the table.
=3D20
I suggest that we send to you Snail=3D2C please tell us how.
=3D20
=3D20
Remembering those who gave me a "leg up" many years ago.=3D20
=3D20
David Woof
Clarkdale=3D2C Arizona
=3D20
P.S. Many Community Colleges have tuition grants and waivers for special c=
=3D
ircumstance.
=3D20
A Ceramics class or two would certainly help her on her way and get her con=
=3D
nected to a larger clay community.
=3D20
=3D20
=3D20
<2a. got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
Posted by: "Snail Scott" claywork@FLYING-SNAIL.COM=3D20
Date: Fri Aug 28=3D2C 2009 12:34 pm ((PDT))
=3D20
Hi-
=3D20
I have an acquaintance: a young woman who
has been a self-supporting emancipated minor
for several years - working=3D2C staying in school=3D2C
and paying her own way. She recently got an
old kiln for next to nothing=3D2C and has been
teaching herself ceramics.
=3D20
Unfortunately=3D2C she made an all-too-common
beginner's mistake - thinking that 'kiln wash'
was some sort of clean-up material rather than
a preventative... Attempts to remove a badly
stuck glaze accident weren't going well=3D2C so
I invited her to bring it out to my place and I'd
help her get it loose and fix up the shelf. She
was also going to sit as a model for a project
I was working on. Well...turns out she didn't
have any transportation that day=3D2C so instead of
cancelling or complaining (or even mentioning
it)=3D2C she strapped that shelf to her bicycle and
rode the seven or eight hilly miles out to my
place. In avoiding a car=3D2C she hit gravel and
wiped out=3D2C resulting in minor injuries and the
total destruction of her only kiln shelf (though
the pot did finally come loose!)
=3D20
I don't technically owe her anything=3D2C I suppose=3D2C
but I feel terrible about it. Unfortunately=3D2C my kiln
shelves won't fit her kiln=3D2C and I can't afford to buy
a new one for her right now.
=3D20
Anyone have an old 8-sided (or similar size) shelf
or two that I could buy for a modest rate=3D2C and pick
up in the St. Louis metro area (Eastern Missouri/
southern Illinois=3D2C USA)? Messed up or broken
would still be useful and welcome=3D3B I can fix 'messed
up'=3D2C and a two-part shelf is still better than what she's
got. I'd like to help this girl out. She's a hard-working
self-starter with a lot of guts who never asks for
help=3D2C but everybody needs a hand sometimes.
=3D20
-Snail
=3D20
=3D20
=3D20
_________________________________________________________________
Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=3D3DMSHYCB&publ=3D3DWLHMTAG&crea=3D3DTEXT=
_MSHYC=3D
B_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1=3D
Victoria E. Hamilton on sun 30 aug 09
Count me in!
Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of David Woof
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 7:34 AM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
Snail,
This one sounds like a keeper!!!
How many of us sending $5.00 each would it take to buy this young woman 3
shelves and some furniture? Seems like a good time to get up and dig up
for a scholarship.
This is our next generation folks; The one we old timers need to cultivate
and support and encourage in tangible ways. Let's see if we can help brin=
g
her bright shining face to the table.
I suggest that we send to you Snail, please tell us how.
Remembering those who gave me a "leg up" many years ago.
David Woof
Clarkdale, Arizona
P.S. Many Community Colleges have tuition grants and waivers for special
circumstance.
A Ceramics class or two would certainly help her on her way and get her
connected to a larger clay community.
<2a. got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
Posted by: "Snail Scott" claywork@FLYING-SNAIL.COM
Date: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:34 pm ((PDT))
Hi-
I have an acquaintance: a young woman who has been a self-supporting
emancipated minor for several years - working, staying in school, and payin=
g
her own way. She recently got an old kiln for next to nothing, and has been
teaching herself ceramics.
Unfortunately, she made an all-too-common beginner's mistake - thinking tha=
t
'kiln wash'
was some sort of clean-up material rather than a preventative... Attempts t=
o
remove a badly stuck glaze accident weren't going well, so I invited her to
bring it out to my place and I'd help her get it loose and fix up the shelf=
.
She was also going to sit as a model for a project I was working on.
Well...turns out she didn't have any transportation that day, so instead of
cancelling or complaining (or even mentioning it), she strapped that shelf
to her bicycle and rode the seven or eight hilly miles out to my place. In
avoiding a car, she hit gravel and wiped out, resulting in minor injuries
and the total destruction of her only kiln shelf (though the pot did finall=
y
come loose!)
I don't technically owe her anything, I suppose, but I feel terrible about
it. Unfortunately, my kiln shelves won't fit her kiln, and I can't afford t=
o
buy a new one for her right now.
Anyone have an old 8-sided (or similar size) shelf or two that I could buy
for a modest rate, and pick up in the St. Louis metro area (Eastern
Missouri/ southern Illinois, USA)? Messed up or broken would still be usefu=
l
and welcome; I can fix 'messed up', and a two-part shelf is still better
than what she's got. I'd like to help this girl out. She's a hard-working
self-starter with a lot of guts who never asks for help, but everybody need=
s
a hand sometimes.
-Snail
_________________________________________________________________
Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=3DMSHYCB&publ=3DWLHMTAG&crea=3DTEXT_MSHYC=
B_BackT
oSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1=3D
Snail Scott on sun 30 aug 09
On Aug 30, 2009, at 9:34 AM, David Woof wrote:
> How many of us sending $5.00 each would it take to buy this young
> woman 3 shelves and some furniture? Seems like a good time to get
> up and dig up for a scholarship...
How about this:
Anyone who wants to donate a shelf, great!
Anyone who wants to send money, I will
collect it, and whatever comes in over and
above the acquisition of three shelves and
some posts, I could set up as a gift certificate
for her at the local supplier?
She may never turn 'pro' - it's too soon for
her to decide that. She needs some time
to figure out her long-term goals and the best
way to reach them, but I have no doubt that
she'll be a force to reckon with once she
makes that commitment!
She will be moving to a place near me
fairly soon, and I'll be able to help her out
a lot more. She seldom asks for help, and
she didn't ask for this, but I figure I owe her
a little. I give her advice when it seems
welcome, and encouragement, as well as
a standing offer to fire in my kiln for free.
She fought hard for her autonomy, though,
and I respect her need to be independent
even when it means a few hardships along
the way.
Snail Scott
7203 Grove Road
Edwardsville IL 62025
ncwhite on sun 30 aug 09
Count me in.
Neva,
Yuma, Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Woof"
Subject: Re: got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
How many of us sending $5.00 each would it take to buy this young woman 3
shelves and some furniture? Seems like a good time to get up and dig up
for a scholarship.
David Woof
Clarkdale, Arizona
marci and rex on sun 30 aug 09
At 09:34 AM 8/30/2009, David Woof wrote:
>Snail,
>This one sounds like a keeper!!!
>How many of us sending $5.00 each would it take to buy this young
>woman 3 shelves and some furniture? Seems like a good time to get
>up and dig up for a scholarship.
Works for me, David. Just let me know where to send
Marci Blattenberger Boskie's Mama =3D^..^=3D
http://www.marciblattenberger.com
marci@ppio.com
Porcelain Painters International Online http://www.ppio.com
Victoria E. Hamilton on sun 30 aug 09
Snail -
Do we write the check to you, or to her. If her, we need her name and wher=
e
to mail the check.
Thanks for your commitment to this young woman.
Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Snail Scott
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:29 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
On Aug 30, 2009, at 9:34 AM, David Woof wrote:
> How many of us sending $5.00 each would it take to buy this young
> woman 3 shelves and some furniture? Seems like a good time to get
> up and dig up for a scholarship...
How about this:
Anyone who wants to donate a shelf, great!
Anyone who wants to send money, I will
collect it, and whatever comes in over and above the acquisition of three
shelves and some posts, I could set up as a gift certificate for her at the
local supplier?
She may never turn 'pro' - it's too soon for her to decide that. She needs
some time to figure out her long-term goals and the best way to reach them,
but I have no doubt that she'll be a force to reckon with once she makes
that commitment!
She will be moving to a place near me
fairly soon, and I'll be able to help her out a lot more. She seldom asks
for help, and she didn't ask for this, but I figure I owe her a little. I
give her advice when it seems welcome, and encouragement, as well as a
standing offer to fire in my kiln for free.
She fought hard for her autonomy, though, and I respect her need to be
independent even when it means a few hardships along the way.
Snail Scott
7203 Grove Road
Edwardsville IL 62025
David Woof on sun 30 aug 09
Clayart folks=3D2C=3D20
As you see below=3D2C Snail has given us her mailing address and has agreed=
t=3D
o purchase the shelves and posts. Thanks Snail. =3D20
Please keep us posted.
=3D20
David Woof
=3D20
Please send your contribution to:
Snail Scott
7203 Grove Road
Edwardsville IL 62025
=3D20
________________________________________________________________________
10c. Re: got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
Posted by: "Snail Scott" claywork@FLYING-SNAIL.COM=3D20
Date: Sun Aug 30=3D2C 2009 12:52 pm ((PDT))
=3D20
On Aug 30=3D2C 2009=3D2C at 9:34 AM=3D2C David Woof wrote:
> How many of us sending $5.00 each would it take to buy this young
> woman 3 shelves and some furniture? Seems like a good time to get
> up and dig up for a scholarship...
=3D20
=3D20
How about this:
=3D20
Anyone who wants to donate a shelf=3D2C great!
Anyone who wants to send money=3D2C I will
collect it=3D2C and whatever comes in over and
above the acquisition of three shelves and
some posts=3D2C I could set up as a gift certificate
for her at the local supplier?
=3D20
She may never turn 'pro' - it's too soon for
her to decide that. She needs some time
to figure out her long-term goals and the best
way to reach them=3D2C but I have no doubt that
she'll be a force to reckon with once she
makes that commitment!
=3D20
She will be moving to a place near me
fairly soon=3D2C and I'll be able to help her out
a lot more. She seldom asks for help=3D2C and
she didn't ask for this=3D2C but I figure I owe her
a little. I give her advice when it seems
welcome=3D2C and encouragement=3D2C as well as
a standing offer to fire in my kiln for free.
She fought hard for her autonomy=3D2C though=3D2C
and I respect her need to be independent
even when it means a few hardships along
the way.
=3D20
Snail Scott
7203 Grove Road
Edwardsville IL 62025
=3D20
=3D20
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Victoria E. Hamilton on mon 31 aug 09
Snail -
Should we send checks to you and the address you posted? You mentioned a
day or so ago that you might investigate setting up a paypal account for
this.
Thanks.
Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Snail Scott
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:29 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Tim Kelley wrote:
> I am a real sceptic usually about these things. But if Mel says its
> legit, I'm in.
I'm not really comfortable with asking for money, even on behalf of someone
else. I was really just hoping, when I posted the original note, that
someone in the St. louis area might have a 'beater' shelf to sell. I'm awed
by the number of people that have come forward, on-list and off, with offer=
s
of help. This truly is wonderful!
-Snail
marci and rex on mon 31 aug 09
At 08:29 PM 8/31/2009, Snail Scott wrote:
>I'm not really comfortable with asking for money,
>even on behalf of someone else.
In my book , Snail, theres a big difference between asking...
and having people offer...
Sounds like this is a big hearted bunch ...but then ,
Im not surprised to learn that...
Marci Blattenberger Boskie's Mama =3D^..^=3D
http://www.marciblattenberger.com
marci@ppio.com
Porcelain Painters International Online http://www.ppio.com
June on mon 31 aug 09
Snail, do you have a paypal account that we can donate to?
Regards,
June
http://www.shambhalapottery.blogspot.com
http://www.shambhalapottery.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sodasaltfiring/
http://saltandsodafiring.ning.com/
http://ncclayclub.blogspot.com
________________________________
From: Victoria E. Hamilton
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:53:13 PM
Subject: Re: got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
Snail -
Do we write the check to you, or to her. If her, we need her name and wher=
e
to mail the check.
Thanks for your commitment to this young woman.
Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Snail Scott
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:29 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
On Aug 30, 2009, at 9:34 AM, David Woof wrote:
> How many of us sending $5.00 each would it take to buy this young
> woman 3 shelves and some furniture? Seems like a good time to get
> up and dig up for a scholarship...
How about this:
Anyone who wants to donate a shelf, great!
Anyone who wants to send money, I will
collect it, and whatever comes in over and above the acquisition of three
shelves and some posts, I could set up as a gift certificate for her at the
local supplier?
She may never turn 'pro' - it's too soon for her to decide that. She needs
some time to figure out her long-term goals and the best way to reach them,
but I have no doubt that she'll be a force to reckon with once she makes
that commitment!
She will be moving to a place near me
fairly soon, and I'll be able to help her out a lot more. She seldom asks
for help, and she didn't ask for this, but I figure I owe her a little. I
give her advice when it seems welcome, and encouragement, as well as a
standing offer to fire in my kiln for free.
She fought hard for her autonomy, though, and I respect her need to be
independent even when it means a few hardships along the way.
Snail Scott
7203 Grove Road
Edwardsville IL 62025
Snail Scott on mon 31 aug 09
On Aug 30, 2009, at 7:34 PM, saltglaze69 wrote:
> A paypal account would certainly simplify and expedite this...
That's a good idea. I haven't done this before, but I
will investigate that today and set something up.
-Snail
Tim Kelley on mon 31 aug 09
I am a real sceptic usually about these things. But if Mel says its
legit, I'm in. I encourage all to try and help. I keep having these
thoughts of her riding that bike with a kiln shelf attached to it some
how. Any one that dedicated to pottery has my support.=3D20
Tim Kelley
Castroville Pottery
P.O. Box 1058
1215 Fiorella Street
Castroville,TX.78009
830-538-9705
clay@castrovillepottery.com
www.castrovillepottery.com
Snail Scott on mon 31 aug 09
On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Tim Kelley wrote:
> I am a real sceptic usually about these things. But if Mel says its
> legit, I'm in.
I'm not really comfortable with asking for money,
even on behalf of someone else. I was really
just hoping, when I posted the original note,
that someone in the St. louis area might have a
'beater' shelf to sell. I'm awed by the number of
people that have come forward, on-list and off,
with offers of help. This truly is wonderful!
-Snail
Snail Scott on tue 1 sep 09
Should we send checks to you and the address you posted? You mentioned a
day or so ago that you might investigate setting up a paypal account for
this...
I've decided to use this Paypal account address:
snail@mindspring.com
I thnk that's all the info you need; let me know
if that doesn't work.
-Snail
Steve Slatin on tue 1 sep 09
Like Otto in the Simpsons, I'm tempted to
shout out "You're the Man, Man!" but of
course you're not a man ... so, "You're the
Snail, Snail!"
Steve Slatin --=3D20
--- On Sun, 8/30/09, Snail Scott wrote:
> How about this:
>=3D20
> Anyone who wants to donate a shelf, great!
> Anyone who wants to send money, I will
> collect it, and whatever comes in over and
> above the acquisition of three shelves and
> some posts, I could set up as a gift certificate
> for her at the local supplier?
>=3D20
> She may never turn 'pro' - it's too soon for
> her to decide that. She needs some time
> to figure out her long-term goals and the best
> way to reach them, but I have no doubt that
> she'll be a force to reckon with once she
> makes that commitment!
>=3D20
> She will be moving to a place near me
> fairly soon, and I'll be able to help her out
> a lot more. She seldom asks for help, and
> she didn't ask for this, but I figure I owe her
> a little. I give her advice when it seems
> welcome, and encouragement, as well as
> a standing offer to fire in my kiln for free.
> She fought hard for her autonomy, though,
> and I respect her need to be independent
> even when it means a few hardships along
> the way.
>=3D20
> Snail Scott
> 7203 Grove Road
> Edwardsville IL=3DA0 62025
> =3D0A=3D0A=3D0A
Victoria E. Hamilton on tue 1 sep 09
Hi Snail -
I went to www.snail@mindspring.com. Didn't work. What should I do.
Thanks.
Vicki Hamilton
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Snail Scott
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:07 AM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: got a bad shelf in St. Louis?
Should we send checks to you and the address you posted? You mentioned a
day or so ago that you might investigate setting up a paypal account for
this...
I've decided to use this Paypal account address:
snail@mindspring.com
I thnk that's all the info you need; let me know if that doesn't work.
-Snail
Snail Scott on sat 5 sep 09
Wow!
i am awestruck by the generosity of people out there
on Clayart, helping out someone that they've never
even met.
Many, many people have kicked in money toward
Natalie's Kiln Shelf Fund via check, cash, and
PayPal, mostly in $5.00 - $10.00 amounts (though
some much higher). Some came with personal notes
and even small gifts, others without even a return
address. Adding it all up, the current tally is $465.
That is amazing!
That will be more than enough to get three shelves,
a good range of posts, some kiln wash(!), perhaps
a book, and a really good quantity of materials, too.
I will offer suggestions, but I will leave it to her to make
her own choices. She will be quite embarrassed by
such largesse, but I have no doubt that she will put
it to earnest good use.
I will wait a few more days to see what else comes
in the mail, then set up a credit account at Krueger
Pottery Supply in her name.
Thank you all,
Snail Scott
Gay Judson on sat 5 sep 09
Well, I don't know Natalie but I do know Snail. Natalie could not
have a better reference to us than Snail Scott! I know someday--in
various ways--Natalie will "clay it forward". So the cycle continues!
Thanks for making it all possible!
Gay Judson
On Sep 5, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Snail Scott wrote:
> Wow!
>
> i am awestruck by the generosity of people out there
> on Clayart, helping out someone that they've never
> even met.
>
> Many, many people have kicked in money toward
> Natalie's Kiln Shelf Fund via check, cash, and
> PayPal, mostly in $5.00 - $10.00 amounts (though
> some much higher). Some came with personal notes
> and even small gifts, others without even a return
> address. Adding it all up, the current tally is $465.
>
> That is amazing!
>
> That will be more than enough to get three shelves,
> a good range of posts, some kiln wash(!), perhaps
> a book, and a really good quantity of materials, too.
> I will offer suggestions, but I will leave it to her to make
> her own choices. She will be quite embarrassed by
> such largesse, but I have no doubt that she will put
> it to earnest good use.
>
> I will wait a few more days to see what else comes
> in the mail, then set up a credit account at Krueger
> Pottery Supply in her name.
>
> Thank you all,
>
> Snail Scott
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