Carl Ross on mon 22 jun 09
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> Vince=3D2C I agree with you but I also think that there is an issue with
> allowing someone to abstract the teapot when they can't make a good solid
> teapot in the first place. I think the same is true with allowing freshme=
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> art majors paint abstract paintings. After all=3D2C if you can't paint a =
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> good still life=3D2C your "abstraction" just becomes a poor representatio=
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> the image or object you are attempting to abstract.
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> I also don't think that it is up to anyone but the artist as to what form=
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> or she wishes to explore. Personally=3D2C I am more offended (for want of=
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> better word) by a bad teapot that is supposed to be "craft" and "function=
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> than a bad teapot that is supposed to be "Art" and "non-functional".
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> Randall in Atlanta
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Hi Randall=3D2C Vince=3D2C et al -=3D20
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I have to second that with the caveat that anyone can call anything art or =
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craft=3D2C and without knowing the persons intended purpose and motivation =
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the very instant that artisan is creating=3D2C all mistakes are not bad=3D=
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hey can be the "aha" moment for an entire new technique or movement. =3D20
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I am working on a Ven Diagram for people to truly understand how the differ=
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ent classifications can interlace and am looking to collaborate with others=
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to produce a navigable exploration of the diagram=3D2C Rather a triaxial b=
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nd of Art=3D2C Craft and Crap. the latter of which I attribute poor workman=
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ip=3D2C poor mastery of the medium=3D2C and a motivation to just get the mo=
st p=3D
roduct out there or fill the kiln=3D2C despite noticeable flaws.=3D20
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the art and craft I hold with equally high regard=3D2C and crap is the stuf=
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that people oftentimes pass off as art or craft. the filler at art and craf=
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t shows between the booths with respectable work. I feel no creative peice =
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fits squarely into one group=3D2C there is a craft behind the frescos of th=
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Sistine Chapel. The art aspect would not survive with out the functional cr=
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aft=3D2C below the paint. The art in that case far outshines the craft howe=
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r fine the craft. =3D20
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The depth of the craft is something I'm gaining a new appreciation for unde=
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r the guidance of David Woof=3D2C if there are any others out there in our =
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ea=3D2C Northern AZ=3D2C Cottonwood=3D2C Clarkdale=3D2C Sedona=3D2C get in =
touch with=3D
me and I'll bring you along sometime=3D2C (you don't mind=3D2C do you Dave=
?).=3D
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The distinction and understanding of where your motivation and purpose come=
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s from I feel is a major block inthe foundation of your work and where you =
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will go with it. I like to try to do a grouping of peices with a similar fo=
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rm and let one be very coarse and then another be very refined then explore=
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the spectrum between.=3D20
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peace-
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Carl in cornville
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