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bluebird v. venco - call for comparison

updated sun 14 dec 97

 

Jeff Lawrence on tue 9 dec 97

Talbott raises the point that a Bluebird/Venco comparison might be helpful,
suggesting I might be able to compare.

I can't because mine were not comparable (different sizes) and because I am
not a pug mill connoisseur. But knowing this list, there's somebody out
there who headed an international engineering study on pug mills or pugged
tons a day in two of them side by side for 22 years.

Come on, experts, auslurk yourselves! delurk? ... unlurk? ... ablurk? ...

Jeff



Jeff Lawrence
jml@sundagger.com
Sun Dagger Design
Rt 3 Box 220
Espanola, NM 87532
ph 505-753-5913
fax 505-753-8074

Ray Carlton on wed 10 dec 97

i got a 3" venco pugmill its a bit small but a real workhorse and built
very strong thats all we use here in oz all the others look like toys in
comparison

cheers


At 11:16 09/12/97 EST, Jeff Lawrence wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Talbott raises the point that a Bluebird/Venco comparison might be helpful,
>suggesting I might be able to compare.
>
>I can't because mine were not comparable (different sizes) and because I am
>not a pug mill connoisseur. But knowing this list, there's somebody out
>there who headed an international engineering study on pug mills or pugged
>tons a day in two of them side by side for 22 years.
>
>Come on, experts, auslurk yourselves! delurk? ... unlurk? ... ablurk? ...
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>Jeff Lawrence
>jml@sundagger.com
>Sun Dagger Design
>Rt 3 Box 220
>Espanola, NM 87532
>ph 505-753-5913
>fax 505-753-8074
>
>
Please note My NEW!! email address

Ray Carlton



Kathi LeSueur on fri 12 dec 97

A number of factors should be taken into consideration when buying a pugmill.
Where will it be used? Home, studio, school. Will children have access to the
machine (even if forbidden to touch it)? Is output important? ( so many
pounds per hour) Who will service it if there is a problem? How easy is it to
get parts? Is extruding with it a desired attribute?

All of these questions should be asked before laying down any money. If the
machine is to be used in a school environment, by all means go with a Venco
or Shimpo. Bluebird has no safety features and if they know it is to be used
in a school environment, will not sell it to you. Most pugmills can pug far
more clay in an hour than the average potter can use, so unless there are
multiple users, output is not as important. Most problems with a Bluebird can
be handled by the potter (sometimes with a little discussion on the phone
with Bluebird) and the parts are locally available.. If you are buying a
Venco make sure you know the company you are buying it from, that they can
walk you through repairs, and that they keep parts in stock. And........ if
you want to do extruding with it, Bluebird is probably your only option,
especially with large extrusions.

Good luck,

Kathi LeSueur
Michigan and 8 inches of snow

DWoodin521 on sat 13 dec 97

How about the Peter Pugger?? It now has the deairing feature and has a large
hopper for loading and has safety features. Phone 707 463 1333