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pricing again

updated fri 12 dec 97

 

Talbott on tue 9 dec 97

Laura...
Quite the contrary... You should put a higher premium on your
"jewels" than on your average pots, and the lower quality pieces do sell
for less and seconds sell for far less and are plainly indicated as being
seconds. If you think that every piece of pottery that a potter fires are
identical in quality then I have got NEWS FOR YOU especially glazes that
involve copper reds, crystals, and raku
Even the largest art pottery in the US, which is located here in
Maine does the same thing. They produce thousands of pots and their annual
sales exceed $1 million. How does one sell oil paintings by the inch?
Size is a factor but only one of the factors that are considered when
pricing any art form. This is so apparent that it is hardly worth
discussing. ....Marshall
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>Hello all -
>
>Okay, I can't keep silent any longer. I have read and digested all of the
>opinions (so far) on this "pricing by the inch" issue. And while I am no
>slavish devotee of all of Mr. Jacobson's opinions, I believe his pricing by
>the inch plan makes perfect economic and artistic sense. From what I
>understand from his posts and seeing his work in CM, Mr. Jacobson
>produces lovely functional work that all has a definite style to it - in other
>words, a cohesive body of work. For work like that, pricing by the inch
>makes sense. You shouldn't price your "favorits" higher than your red
>headed stepchildren. Now, for the record, I also agree with the sentiment
>that many big pots are junk and many small pots are "jewells". But that's
>not the point - of course there is "good" and "bad" art out there . When
>an artist produces one kind of work ( and I do not mean that as an insult
>at all), big pots or sculptures should cost more than small pots or
>scultpures.
>
>Laura in Atlanta, where it was sleeting as I was walking the dogs this
>morning. I love the sound of sleet.
>3 years into potting, but 32 years into art buying and appreciation
>

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Laura S. Jones on wed 10 dec 97

** Proprietary **

Gee, Marshall, thanks for the education.
Laura

>>> Talbott 12/08/97 05:47pm >>>
Laura...
Quite the contrary... You should put a higher premium on your
"jewels" than on your average pots, and the lower quality pieces do sell
for less and seconds sell for far less and are plainly indicated as being
seconds. If you think that every piece of pottery that a potter fires are
identical in quality then I have got NEWS FOR YOU especially glazes that
involve copper reds, crystals, and raku
Even the largest art pottery in the US, which is located here in
Maine does the same thing. They produce thousands of pots and their
annual
sales exceed $1 million. How does one sell oil paintings by the inch?
Size is a factor but only one of the factors that are considered when
pricing any art form. This is so apparent that it is hardly worth
discussing. ....Marshall
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>Hello all -
>
>Okay, I can't keep silent any longer. I have read and digested all of the
>opinions (so far) on this "pricing by the inch" issue. And while I am no
>slavish devotee of all of Mr. Jacobson's opinions, I believe his pricing by
>the inch plan makes perfect economic and artistic sense. From what I
>understand from his posts and seeing his work in CM, Mr. Jacobson
>produces lovely functional work that all has a definite style to it - in
other
>words, a cohesive body of work. For work like that, pricing by the inch
>makes sense. You shouldn't price your "favorits" higher than your red
>headed stepchildren. Now, for the record, I also agree with the
sentiment
>that many big pots are junk and many small pots are "jewells". But that's
>not the point - of course there is "good" and "bad" art out there . When
>an artist produces one kind of work ( and I do not mean that as an insult
>at all), big pots or sculptures should cost more than small pots or
>scultpures.
>
>Laura in Atlanta, where it was sleeting as I was walking the dogs this
>morning. I love the sound of sleet.
>3 years into potting, but 32 years into art buying and appreciation
>

101 CLAYART MUGS
2ND ANNUAL CLAYARTERS' GALLERY - NAPLES, MAINE
(Summer 1998)
E-MAIL ME FOR AN APPLICATION
http://fmc.utm.edu/~dmcbeth/cag/naples.htm

Celia & Marshall Talbott, Pottery By Celia, Route 114, P O Box 4116,
Naples, Maine 04055-4116,(207)693-6100 voice and fax,(call first)
Clayarters' Live Chat Room, Fri & Sat Nites at 10 PM EDT & Sun at 1 PM
EDT

http://webchat12.wbs.net/webchat3.so?Room=PRIVATE_Clayarters
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Dannon Rhudy on wed 10 dec 97

......... How does one sell oil paintings by the inch?.......

Oh, Marshall, I hate to tell you this, but many, many painters
price their work by the square inch; they believe it is the
only logical and reasonable and EASY thing to do. Indeed, in
college painting courses, the instructors TOLD their students
(my experience) that that was the way to do it.

When their work/reputations indicate, they raise the cost/inch.

Dannon Rhudy
potter@koyote.com

Who has nothing whatsoever else to say on this subject.

Mmpottery on thu 11 dec 97

O.K. Now I can't keep my mouth shut. There is NO one way of doing anything.
In fact you could use both ways. It's whatever you are comfortable with. But I
guess the discussion is good. :-)

Marcia Selsor on thu 11 dec 97

Oriental carpets are priced by the sq. inch and by the number of knots per sq.
inch. Makes sense to me. When my students ask how to price, I tell them the
$2/pound method (I read this ages ago) and $0.50/ handle, knob spout,
whatever. Problem is. . the better (lighter) they get, the less the pot is
priced. So then we have to discuss the quality of a piece, how well it is
made, can one made another as good or better (hopefully yes). Pricing is a
very subjective experience and I still have difficulty with it. Obviously we
all do.
Marcia in Montana
(5 days and we are on vacation!!!!)

Dannon Rhudy wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> ........ How does one sell oil paintings by the inch?.......
>
> Oh, Marshall, I hate to tell you this, but many, many painters
> price their work by the square inch; they believe it is the
> only logical and reasonable and EASY thing to do. Indeed, in
> college painting courses, the instructors TOLD their students
> (my experience) that that was the way to do it.
>
> When their work/reputations indicate, they raise the cost/inch.
>
> Dannon Rhudy
> potter@koyote.com
>
> Who has nothing whatsoever else to say on this subject.