mel jacobson on fri 16 oct 09
it was a big problem when i was a teacher.
the teacher that went to high school, got straight A.
went to Gustavus Adolphus on daddies buck, and got
straight A. start right in at our school as a teacher.
(the super loved those lutheran gals `gusties`.)
never had a job in her/his life.
thinks summer is reading time.
hates kids that muck in clay.
thinks that having more than twenty kids in
an english class is satan's plan. and they
really hate `dumb` kids. `they say in the lounge,
`oh, why do i have to teach dumb kids?`
i would say...`hell, if they were smart they would
just leave your class and read a book. they sure would
not need you.`
that person often became the department chair.
the pc was always perfection. they knew education speak.
(that is latin for bullshit.)
i loved to tell those folks they were full of s#$t.
the few of us on our faculty that had re/built car engines,
mucked out barns, worked as roofers and built houses
seemed to band together. it was interesting how kids flocked
to our classes. we had gal teachers that worked their way
through school as a waitress or bar tender...they knew the score.
i loved the days i would take an entire class out to the parking
lot and teach `changing a tire in ten minutes`. test will follow.
( i told them i would take the valve stem out of their tire and it
would be flat when they tried sneaking out of the lot early. that
would be the test.) nervous laughter.
when the school dropped drafting, i asked for the 24 solid red oak
drafting tables for the art department.
they said no, i should order new.
the oak ones were sold at auction for a dollar each. someone
snapped up all of them. you could never replace those oak tables.
they were just beautiful. new ones were made of particle board and
aluminum tubing. worth about a dollar.
mel
the district designed art rooms with those great big tables.
sit 8 kids around one. `you may as well have served popcorn and soda,
it was always a party, touch, kick, pinch, pat`. i had my kids in
individual desks when i taught general art. everyone in their own
space. how dumb do you have to
be to teach with 8 kids at a table? god help us.
from: minnetonka, mn
website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
new book: http://www.21stcenturykilns.com
Marcia Selsor on fri 16 oct 09
We had those oak drafting tables where I taught college for decades
in Montana.
They were great. I also worked on them where I went to clooege in
Philadelphia.
Private Art school with a tight budget. same with the college where I
taught.
Built kilns where I went to college and built kilns where I taught for
decades. Only used my kilns that I designed and built.
I loved those Montana ranch kids. They taught me a lot. Can you image
living a hundred miles from a hardware store?
You learn to fix things.
I also studied Latin in High School....
Marcia
On Oct 16, 2009, at 2:52 PM, mel jacobson wrote:
> it was a big problem when i was a teacher.
>
> the teacher that went to high school, got straight A.
> went to Gustavus Adolphus on daddies buck, and got
> straight A. start right in at our school as a teacher.
> (the super loved those lutheran gals `gusties`.)
>
> never had a job in her/his life.
> thinks summer is reading time.
> hates kids that muck in clay.
> thinks that having more than twenty kids in
> an english class is satan's plan. and they
> really hate `dumb` kids. `they say in the lounge,
> `oh, why do i have to teach dumb kids?`
> i would say...`hell, if they were smart they would
> just leave your class and read a book. they sure would
> not need you.`
>
> that person often became the department chair.
> the pc was always perfection. they knew education speak.
> (that is latin for bullshit.)
>
> i loved to tell those folks they were full of s#$t.
>
> the few of us on our faculty that had re/built car engines,
> mucked out barns, worked as roofers and built houses
> seemed to band together. it was interesting how kids flocked
> to our classes. we had gal teachers that worked their way
> through school as a waitress or bar tender...they knew the score.
>
> i loved the days i would take an entire class out to the parking
> lot and teach `changing a tire in ten minutes`. test will follow.
> ( i told them i would take the valve stem out of their tire and it
> would be flat when they tried sneaking out of the lot early. that
> would be the test.) nervous laughter.
>
> when the school dropped drafting, i asked for the 24 solid red oak
> drafting tables for the art department.
> they said no, i should order new.
> the oak ones were sold at auction for a dollar each. someone
> snapped up all of them. you could never replace those oak tables.
> they were just beautiful. new ones were made of particle board and
> aluminum tubing. worth about a dollar.
> mel
> the district designed art rooms with those great big tables.
> sit 8 kids around one. `you may as well have served popcorn and soda,
> it was always a party, touch, kick, pinch, pat`. i had my kids in
> individual desks when i taught general art. everyone in their own
> space. how dumb do you have to
> be to teach with 8 kids at a table? god help us.
>
>
>
> from: minnetonka, mn
> website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
> clayart link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
> new book: http://www.21stcenturykilns.com
>
Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com
Bonnie Staffel on sat 17 oct 09
Marcia said....
I also studied Latin in High School....
Marcia, I also studied Latin in high school but never enjoyed it at the
time. However, when I went to teach in Denmark, that knowledge came back =
=3D
to
me when I had to interpret glaze recipes in Danish into the glaze =3D
materials
of recipes that I brought from home.. Saw a lot of Pebeler, Feldspat,
Kvarts, Kridt on the shelves in the class studio..=3D20
I had one heck of a time learning the language so gave that up. My
pronunciation was just not understandable with my American accent. Most =
=3D
of
the students could speak British English so one-on-one, I could converse
with them. Had one student who couldn't and he didn't want any =3D
instruction.
He was an older man and made many errors in his construction of huge =3D
pots.
He was not knowledgeable enough to build such constructions.=3D20
I introduced the primitive method of smoke firing which fascinated my
students and brought several teachers from other schools to observe. I =3D
also
taught press mold processes which was also popular. My low fire ^04 =3D
copper
reduction was a huge success in their electric reduction kilns.=3D20
Bonnie
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