mdeadmon on wed 4 nov 09
I have had a Clay Boss for 3 years now...it was my first wheel...it goes =
=3D
in both directions, there is a plug on one of the cords that u pull out a=
=3D
nd put back in upside down, kinda, which I need, but didn't even know it =
=3D
had when I bought it...the only problem I ever had which was quickly reso=
=3D
lved by Creative was the foot pedal decided one day to only go down enoug=
=3D
h to make wheel spin at one-third speed...I called them and within 48 hou=
=3D
rs had a new foot pump, had to send back the other one, they paid for eve=
=3D
rything, and so far no problems...as far as centering 100 lbs of clay, I =
=3D
don't see that happening, I don't know of anyone who centers that much an=
=3D
yway, or I would ask them to try it, but for me 10 lbs is enough to cente=
=3D
r at one time, can go up higher if I was able to center a bigger piece, I=
=3D
think 25 lbs is the limit for CB...Shimpo wheels are good too, but I don=
=3D
't think, and correct me if I am wrong, that they are reversible...to som=
=3D
e that makes no difference because they throw counterclockwise, but I thr=
=3D
ow clockwise, and students throw either way, so for me it was just the mo=
=3D
st sensible choice...I too was going to get an artista tabletop wheel, bu=
=3D
t like u said, for a few hundred more you can get the clay boss....the on=
=3D
e issue I have with it now, is the splash pan, it is 2 pieces, and water =
=3D
can collect in between the two pieces if you are not careful,which of cou=
=3D
rse sometimes we arent' but when it comes time to get a new wheel, I will=
=3D
stay with the boss....
Linda Mccaleb on wed 4 nov 09
=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 Hello ClayArters,,=3D0A=3DA0=3DA0 I have 2 Clay Bosses, a S=
himpo, and a=3D
n old Thomas Stuart (the kick-electric kind), and the last one I bought was=
=3D
a Clay Boss. They have come up with a new splash pan, it is still a little=
=3D
tricky to put on, but not a bother, and is much more sturdy than the first=
=3D
one I got. They have them for sale for the old ones too. You can lean on t=
=3D
hem and be comfortable as far as splash pans are concerned. So I would go w=
=3D
ith a Clay Boss if you are concerned about money, they have a 5 year warent=
=3D
y comming from Mud In Mind=3DA0 and if you get a Shimpo from them, they cha=
rg=3D
e about 100 dollars more and you get a 2 year warenty. That's why I went wi=
=3D
th the Clay Boss. Hope this didn't confuse you,=3D0A=3DA0 Linda=3D0A=3D0A=
=3D0A
Joseph Bennion on wed 4 nov 09
My Leach style treadle wheel built by Jeff Strother is reversible.Joe the P=
otter
Joseph Bennion
Horseshoe Mountain Pottery
Mom's Stuff Healing Salve
PO Box 186
Spring City, Utah 84662
435-462-2708
www.joethepotter.com
--- On Wed, 11/4/09, mdeadmon wrote:
From: mdeadmon
Subject: Clay boss Vs Shimpo
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 3:32 AM
I have had a Clay Boss for 3 years now...it was my first wheel...it goes in=
both directions, there is a plug on one of the cords that u pull out and p=
ut back in upside down, kinda, which I need, but didn't even know it had wh=
en I bought it...the only problem I ever had which was quickly resolved by =
Creative was the foot pedal decided one day to only go down enough to make =
wheel spin at one-third speed...I called them and within 48 hours had a new=
foot pump, had to send back the other one, they paid for everything, and s=
o far no problems...as far as centering 100 lbs of clay, I don't see that h=
appening, I don't know of anyone who centers that much anyway, or I would a=
sk them to try it, but for me 10 lbs is enough to center at one time, can g=
o up higher if I was able to center a bigger piece, I think 25 lbs is the l=
imit for CB...Shimpo wheels are good too, but I don't think, and correct me=
if I am wrong, that they are reversible...to some that makes no
difference because they throw counterclockwise, but I throw clockwise, and=
students throw either way, so for me it was just the most sensible choice.=
..I too was going to get an artista tabletop wheel, but like u said, for a =
few hundred more you can get the clay boss....the one issue I have with it =
now, is the splash pan, it is 2 pieces, and water can collect in between th=
e two pieces if you are not careful,which of course sometimes we arent' but=
when it comes time to get a new wheel, I will stay with the boss....
Lee Love on wed 4 nov 09
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Joseph Bennion
wrote:
> My Leach style treadle wheel built by Jeff Strother is reversible.Joe the=
=3D
Potter
So does my Woodley. And my Korean kickwheel. And my Shimpo Gold.
You can see my Korean wheel here, with its new plate on the axle:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3D3D3228299&l=3D3Dabfc585f0a&id=3D3D5=
507270=3D
56
The cone shimpos freewheel when they are off and the foot pedal is
pushed all the way down. Do the new shimpos do this? Do any of tthe
other electrics do this?
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97tha=
t is, "T=3D
he
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Chaeli Sullivan on wed 4 nov 09
Mine is a Clay Boss.=3DA0 Have used it constantly for 2-3 years.=3DA0 No pr=
oble=3D
ms of any nature.=3DA0 And i'm really super pleased with it.
It's reversable.=3DA0 Easy to clean.
Of course, by this tiime -- anything -- to do with clay that works as it's =
=3D
spozed to work, i'd brag on to the hilt.
Chae
=3DA0=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A
Larry Kruzan on wed 4 nov 09
Consider that if a wheel fits (the most important factor), and is rated =3D
(a
point for a whole discussion) for 50 lbs. vs. a wheel that is rated for =3D
100
lbs. that the wheel rated for 100 lbs will generally have bigger =3D
bearings,
motor, wheelhead (not always) and be built heavier. In my opinion =3D
(always
suspect) the heavier components insure a longer life for average use.
I have 6 wheels, ranging from my first, a bailey ST-50 that was rated =3D
for
fifty pounds to the Brent "C" that I use every day, with a second Brent =3D
"C"
that I trim on. My old wheel and two other bailey Pro-XL wheels are used
several days a week by my apprentice and students. I have a Shimpo =3D
portable
that I take to schools and shows for demos. I really doubt that any of =3D
these
will need replaced within my life expectancy since they are each being =3D
used
in the application they were designed for.
The little Shimpo is great for portability - I do wish it had a foot
controller. The Bailey's are a great value for students/classroom - even =
=3D
the
ST-50 is pretty bullet proof but lightly powered. My Brent wheels are =3D
just
built like battle ships - with price tags to match, but I know they are
going to work when I roll up to them. I often spend in excess of 5 hours =
=3D
a
day at this wheel, it is important that it fits well and runs perfect, =3D
on
the first pot and the last.
If you are going to set up a home studio, or small startup studio you =3D
are
trying to see where you might save a few dollars. You might think that
buying a cheaper wheel is one place where one might be able do this but =3D
I
would content that this very important tool is the place where you don't
want to go "cheap". My apprentice is beginning to assemble a studio and =3D
we
have been looking at costs. Figure around $5000 by the time you get a =3D
wheel,
kiln, extruder, slab roller, tools, glaze supplies and clay. Considering =
=3D
the
bottom line, skimping $100 on the cost difference between a "beginner" =3D
wheel
and a "Pro" wheel seems pretty minor savings.
Just my random thoughts,
Larry Kruzan
Lost Creek Pottery
www.lostcreekpottery.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Love
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:01 AM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Clay boss Vs Shimpo
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Joseph Bennion
wrote:
> My Leach style treadle wheel built by Jeff Strother is reversible.Joe =3D
the
Potter
So does my Woodley. And my Korean kickwheel. And my Shimpo Gold.
You can see my Korean wheel here, with its new plate on the axle:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3D3D3228299&l=3D3Dabfc585f0a&id=3D3D5=
5072=3D
7056
The cone shimpos freewheel when they are off and the foot pedal is
pushed all the way down. Do the new shimpos do this? Do any of tthe
other electrics do this?
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97tha=
t is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
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