Lee Love on fri 18 dec 09
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:53 PM, James Freeman <
jamesfreemanstudio@gmail.com> wrote:
> Their market is not even remotely related to ours.
>
Deponds where you live.
And we are not just talking about pottery. Snail makes sculpture.
One of my main inspiration's work, Isamu Noguchi, is clay sculpture
pottery.
As studio potters, we are at an intersection between potters and
artists. One of the great things in Japan, is that there is not the stron=
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distinction between pottery and sculpture.
I remember John Kantar telling us at a presentation at the UofMn
after his residency at Baniff, that one of the most important things he
learned from Warren MacKenzie, was that you can use the same language that
you use to speak about sculpture to speak about functional pottery.
So the comparisons are not straw men.
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97that=
is, "Th=3D
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land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
James Freeman on fri 18 dec 09
Hi, Lee...
In your haste to be heard, you seem to have completely missed the point.
You are responding only to my last sentence, taken out of context from a
lengthy post that in itself responds to several other posts. We were
discussing how sculpture is manufactured, marketed, and valued, and how suc=
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relates to the concepts of "reproduction" and "original". Your remarks are
interesting, I suppose, but completely non sequitur. Claiming bronze
statues are analogous to slip cast or ram pressed pots, proving something
about bronze casts, then claiming that this somehow proves the same thing
about pots, is an example of a straw man argument. So is pulling a single
line, out of context, from a post, then attacking that line as though it
represented what I had said.
A straw man argument consists of ignoring the actual statements you intend
to attack, and instead setting up a "straw man" via any number of rhetorica=
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devices, knocking down that straw man, thus leading people to believe that
you have somehow knocked down the original argument when in fact you have
completely side-stepped it. It is a very common logical fallacy, though
people are rarely called on it. One need only watch a presidential debate
to witness flagrant examples.
All the best.
...James
James Freeman
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/clayart/
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Lee Love wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:53 PM, James Freeman <
> jamesfreemanstudio@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Their market is not even remotely related to ours.
> >
>
> Deponds where you live.
>
> And we are not just talking about pottery. Snail makes sculpture.
> One of my main inspiration's work, Isamu Noguchi, is clay sculpture
> pottery.
>
> As studio potters, we are at an intersection between potters and
> artists. One of the great things in Japan, is that there is not the
> strong
> distinction between pottery and sculpture.
>
> I remember John Kantar telling us at a presentation at the UofMn
> after his residency at Baniff, that one of the most important things he
> learned from Warren MacKenzie, was that you can use the same language tha=
=3D
t
> you use to speak about sculpture to speak about functional pottery.
>
> So the comparisons are not straw men.
>
> --
> Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
> http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
>
> "Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97th=
at is, "=3D
The
> land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
> within itself." -- John O'Donohue
>
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