Joseph Bennion on tue 2 feb 10
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untain P=3D
ottery=3D0AMom's Stuff Healing Salve =3D0APO Box 186 =
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.com=3D
=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A--- On Tue, 2/2/10, James Freeman COM> w=3D
rote:=3D0A=3D0A> From: James Freeman =3D0A> S=
ubject=3D
: stumbleupon and facebook=3D0A> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=3D0A> Date: T=
uesd=3D
ay, February 2, 2010, 7:15 AM=3D0A> I have been getting website hits=3D0A> =
late=3D
ly from stumbleupon.com and facebook.=3D0A> Does anyone know how this might=
h=3D
appen, as I have never=3D0A> even been to either=3D0A> of those sites in my=
lif=3D
e (and I'm not even sure what=3D0A> stumbleupon is)?=3D0A> =3D0A> Thanks.=
=3D0A> =3D0A=3D
> ...James=3D0A> =3D0A> James Freeman=3D0A> =3D0A> "All I say is by way of =
discours=3D
e, and nothing by way of=3D0A> advice.=3DA0 I should=3D0A> not speak so bol=
dly if=3D
it were my due to be believed."=3D0A> -Michel de Montaigne=3D0A> =3D0A> ht=
tp://w=3D
ww.jamesfreemanstudio.com=3D0A> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanst=
ud=3D
io/=3D0A> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/clayart/=3D0A> =3D0A=3D0A=3D0A
Daniel Rotblatt on tue 2 feb 10
Probably someone saw your site and mentioned it on facebook or stubledupo=
=3D
n. Then people link from=3D20
there. It's a good thing :)
Dan
www.RotblattSculpture.com
Steve Irvine on tue 2 feb 10
James,
Stumbleupon is a site that features interesting, cool, unusual images or =
=3D
stories found on the internet. It is continually updated by contributors =
=3D
who find neat stuff. The traffic to your site probably means that =3D
someone has posted an image of one of your beautiful pots, and people =3D
are following up by visiting your site. The traffic from Facebook =3D
probably means that someone has found the link on Stumbleupon, thought =3D
that it was cool, and is sharing it with Facebook friends.=3D20
Steve Irvine
www.steveirvine.com
Marian Parkes on tue 2 feb 10
Stumbleupon is an add on for the Firefox browser. People who use it can
rate websites with an thumbs up or thumbs down and then that info is shar=
=3D
ed
with others who use the add on. It's a way of sharing websites and
recommending them to others.
All in all, it's probably a good thing you're getting hits from them.
http://www.stumbleupon.com/aboutus/
James Freeman on tue 2 feb 10
I have been getting website hits lately from stumbleupon.com and facebook.
Does anyone know how this might happen, as I have never even been to either
of those sites in my life (and I'm not even sure what stumbleupon is)?
Thanks.
...James
James Freeman
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/clayart/
Tony Ferguson on wed 3 feb 10
Here it is in its complete context:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3DBnFJ8cHAlco&NR=3D3D1
Cheers,
Tony Ferguson
Artist/Educator...Clay, Web, Photo, Video, Digital
...where the sky meets the lake...=3D20
http://www.tonyferguson.net
Workshops, Websites, Film making
& Online Digital Photography Training
=3DA0
--- On Wed, 2/3/10, James Freeman wrote:
From: James Freeman
Subject: Re: stumbleupon and facebook
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 3:13 PM
Hi, Lee.
Direct quote, also in your snopes article:
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet."
Snopes, for some reason, seems to be really reaching in trying to argue tha=
=3D
t
it was just sloppy rhetoric, not an attempt to claim credit.=3DA0 Their ent=
ir=3D
e
argument is that he never used the word "invented", but rather only
"created".=3DA0 Six of one, half a dozen of the other.=3DA0 I guess it depe=
nds =3D
on
what one's definition of "is" is.=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0;-)
The Internet, as we both know, was created in 1968 by the U.S. military, an=
=3D
d
was originally called ARPANET.=3DA0 This was about 8 years before Mr. Gore =
wa=3D
s
elected.=3DA0 Other networks were created and added by other governments du=
ri=3D
ng
the 70s.=3DA0 In 1989 the first commercial network, run by MCI Communicatio=
ns=3D
,
was merged in.=3DA0 This is how I gained access, probably around 1990.=3DA0=
Not=3D
a
whole lot out there back then.
By the way, "grandpa", I think you are still a few years older than I!
Take care, my friend.
...James
James Freeman
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice.=3DA0 I sho=
ul=3D
d
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/clayart/
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Lee Love wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:41 AM, James Freeman
> wrote:
>
> > make the world smaller.=3DA0 Very glad Al Gore invented it.
>
>=3DA0 =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0It is interesting that even very intelligent people "=
drink th=3D
e
> Kool-aid!"=3DA0 ;^)
>
=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A
Lee Love on wed 3 feb 10
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:15 AM, James Freeman
wrote:
> I have been getting website hits lately from stumbleupon.com and facebook=
=3D
.
> Does anyone know how this might happen, as I have never even been to eith=
=3D
er
> of those sites in my life (and I'm not even sure what stumbleupon is)?
Oh Grandpa James!
It is like Daniel says, someone used one of these sites to mark your
site because they wanted to share what they found with their friends.
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi
James Freeman on wed 3 feb 10
Facebook and stumbleupon mystery solved, and it is exactly as you all
stated. Thank you all for the lesson. A kindly clayart member emailed to
say that he had posted links to my site on those sites as well as something
called twitter as a way to bring exposure to my silly pots. I must say tha=
t
I am quite flattered that someone would do that for a total stranger, and
also impressed that a couple of off-hand posts to those sites could generat=
e
about 500 hits in just a couple of days. He must be one popular guy!
A few months ago I noticed about 400 hits over a couple of days from a site
called ultimatebetas. I went to the site and discovered that it was about
pet fish, and could not imagine why fish-folk would be looking at my site.
After a lot of digging, I found that one of the fish-folk had posted a link
to an image of one of my pots just to illustrate to his other fish-friends
the general shape of a fish tank he wanted to make! These Interwebs sure
make the world smaller. Very glad Al Gore invented it.
All the best.
...James
James Freeman
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/clayart/
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Steve Irvine wrote:
> James,
>
> Stumbleupon is a site that features interesting, cool, unusual images or
> stories found on the internet. It is continually updated by contributors =
who
> find neat stuff. The traffic to your site probably means that someone has
> posted an image of one of your beautiful pots, and people are following u=
p
> by visiting your site. The traffic from Facebook probably means that some=
one
> has found the link on Stumbleupon, thought that it was cool, and is shari=
ng
> it with Facebook friends.
>
>
Lee Love on wed 3 feb 10
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:41 AM, James Freeman
wrote:
> make the world smaller. =3DA0Very glad Al Gore invented it.
It is interesting that even very intelligent people "drink the
Kool-aid!" ;^)
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi
James Freeman on wed 3 feb 10
Hi, Lee.
Direct quote, also in your snopes article:
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet."
Snopes, for some reason, seems to be really reaching in trying to argue tha=
t
it was just sloppy rhetoric, not an attempt to claim credit. Their entire
argument is that he never used the word "invented", but rather only
"created". Six of one, half a dozen of the other. I guess it depends on
what one's definition of "is" is. ;-)
The Internet, as we both know, was created in 1968 by the U.S. military, an=
d
was originally called ARPANET. This was about 8 years before Mr. Gore was
elected. Other networks were created and added by other governments during
the 70s. In 1989 the first commercial network, run by MCI Communications,
was merged in. This is how I gained access, probably around 1990. Not a
whole lot out there back then.
By the way, "grandpa", I think you are still a few years older than I!
Take care, my friend.
...James
James Freeman
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/clayart/
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Lee Love wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:41 AM, James Freeman
> wrote:
>
> > make the world smaller. Very glad Al Gore invented it.
>
> It is interesting that even very intelligent people "drink the
> Kool-aid!" ;^)
>
steve graber on wed 3 feb 10
people likely dropped your link here and there.=3DA0 i monitor my site and =
se=3D
e hits that come from facebook, and find the website data has been a fun wa=
=3D
y to accidently discover people who bought my tool and wrote something up i=
=3D
n their blog.=3DA0 =3D0A=3D0Ai also found out about some article in an indu=
strial=3D
clay magazine about interesting tools in the industry.=3DA0=3D0A=3D0Aonce =
you're=3D
out there, people find you.=3DA0 =3D0A=3D0Asince my site has pictures of o=
ther p=3D
ots in general, pots i find interesting (even smooth pots!), and these pics=
=3D
have various names i have found people searching for various things stumbl=
=3D
e onto me from these names - and spend time browsing.=3DA0 the website lets=
m=3D
e know if people used search words and search phrases.=3DA0 some of the phr=
as=3D
es stun me - very off target on clay - but then i see these people still st=
=3D
ay at my website a while.=3DA0 that's the fun of websurfing.=3DA0 =3D0A=3D0=
Ait's li=3D
ke releasing a tiger from it's cage.=3DA0 it gets around.=3DA0 =3D0A=3DA0St=
eve Grab=3D
er, Graber's Pottery, Inc=3D0AClaremont, California USA=3D0AThe Steve Tool =
- fo=3D
r awesome texture on pots! =3D0Awww.graberspottery.com steve@graberspottery=
.c=3D
om =3D0A=3D0A=3D0AOn Laguna Clay's website=3D0Ahttp://www.lagunaclay.com/bl=
ogs/ =3D0A=3D
=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A----- Original Message ----=3D0A> From: James Freeman freemans=3D
tudio@GMAIL.COM>=3D0A> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=3D0A> Sent: Tue, Februa=
ry 2=3D
, 2010 7:15:36 AM=3D0A> Subject: stumbleupon and facebook=3D0A> =3D0A> I ha=
ve bee=3D
n getting website hits lately from stumbleupon.com and facebook.=3D0A> Does=
a=3D
nyone know how this might happen, as I have never even been to either=3D0A>=
o=3D
f those sites in my life (and I'm not even sure what stumbleupon is)?=3D0A>=
=3D
=3D0A> Thanks.=3D0A> =3D0A> ...James=3D0A> =3D0A> James Freeman=3D0A> =3D0A=
> "All I say i=3D
s by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice.=3DA0 I should=3D0A> no=
t sp=3D
eak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."=3D0A> -Michel de Montaigne=
=3D
=3D0A> =3D0A> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com=3D0A> http://www.flickr.com=
/photo=3D
s/jamesfreemanstudio/=3D0A> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/clayart/=3D0A=
=3D0A=3D
=3D0A=3D0A
Lee on thu 4 feb 10
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:13 PM, James Freeman
wrote:
>
> By the way, "grandpa", I think you are still a few years older than I!
=3DA0 Yes.=3DA0=3DA0 We don't have to ossify just because of our chronologi=
cal
age. But if you ask stuff you can find in a couple seconds by
Googling it, folks will be callin' you Grandpa.
Here is an excellent writeup that explains how important Gore was in
helping form the internet as we know it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology
> Take care, my friend.
You too.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97that=
is, "Th=3D
e
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
James Freeman on thu 4 feb 10
Lee...
Al gore did, in 1991, draft and sponsor the bill, at the urging of a
consortium of computer scientists and universities, that funded the
department that in turn ultimately funded the development of the Mosaic web
browser two years later, and that browser did go a long way toward
popularizing the already existing World Wide Web. Before the invention of
the World Wide Web (the system of "websites" that we now think of as the
Internet), we had to use a bunch of oddball programs like archie, finger,
gopher, wais, and a host of others I cannot even remember now, to access th=
e
various files that were available out there. The World Wide Web, however,
is NOT the Internet. It is merely one of many services running over the
Internet. Al had nothing whatsoever to do with creating or inventing or
whatever, the Internet, and played only an extremely ancillary role in the
development of the World Wide Web. Other than the funding bill he
sponsored, his contribution seems to amount to little more than talking. A
whole lot of talking to be sure, but just talking. While Al was, to his
credit, early amongst legislators to see the importance of the Internet, th=
e
bottom line is that he attempted to take far more credit than was due him,
and it backfired.
And you are right, all of this information, and much more, can easily be
found on the World Wide Web, or in actual books. Here is a bit of history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_wide_web
Since this is all quite off topic, and since you were picking on a little
irrelevant side joke in a post that had nothing at all to do with this
topic, I shall shut up now and leave you the opportunity to have the last
word. Just think, if it weren't for the Internet, you and I would never
have met to have this conversation. Thanks again, Al!
All the best.
...James
James Freeman
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/clayart/
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Lee wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:13 PM, James Freeman
> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > By the way, "grandpa", I think you are still a few years older than I!
>
>
> Yes. We don't have to ossify just because of our chronological
> age. But if you ask stuff you can find in a couple seconds by
> Googling it, folks will be callin' you Grandpa.
>
>
Lee on thu 4 feb 10
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:34 AM, James Freeman
wrote:
Don't listen to everything you're told Grandpaw James. ;^)
Facebook is a place to find new customers, announce shows and
automatically post new postings from your webpage updates or blogs.
These updates happen automatically so they save time. Facebook
simply announces them to folks with common interests.
You don't have to play games if you don't want too. You have
to add them and I never do. I always refuse requests to include these
add-ons
Stumble Upon is a time saver. It is a way to save links to
webpages you'd like to reference later without cluttering up your
browser bookmarks.
These are simply tools and can be used to save or waste
time. I choose to use them to save time.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97tha=
t is, "T=3D
he
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
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