Bill Merrill on mon 15 feb 10
my experience my not be yours...I just giving my opinion and how vinegar =
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works for me or not.
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pull handles off a pitcher, holding the pitcher in my left hand, and =3D
using my tight to pull the handle, then vibrate the pitcher to cause the =
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handle to takes a nice curve to the pot. Then it's attached at the =3D
smaller end of the handle. I use a vinegar slip when I attach the =3D
handle to the pot. It doesn't come off the pot will pulling the handle. =
=3D
Works great for this, but this is a circumstance when vinegar slip =3D
works, but causes an issue when used to attach slab to slab on a =3D
vertical constructed pot. The vinegar slip doesn't shrink as much as =3D
the body . If you use slabs in a coil fashion to make larger vertical =3D
forms , the slip works well to make the slabs stick together. When the =
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piece is leather hard and the joint is smoothed and scraped (This is on =3D
stoneware) smooth and left to dry for bisqueing, then it's glaze =3D
fires......where the joint is , it becomes visible, in fact it is =3D
slightly raised. The slip doesn't shrink as much as the body does and =3D
the joint shows. I just join pieces when the clay is not leather hard =3D
and use no vinegar slip, and in my case no joint is visible.=3D20
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"Rules aren't any good unless they serve you" just passing this =3D
on...."Make rules for yourself and not impose yours on others....find =3D
out for yourself. Don't rely on others to supply you with their rules. =3D
Be an explorer, try everything and things will sort themselves out. =3D
Remember, even if you're on the right track, if you sit there long =3D
enough, you'll get run over!!
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Roberi Henri said...Art is the trace of a magnificent struggle".......
Beth Donovan on tue 16 feb 10
Okay,
I'm just always learning, and at our local art center, I was taught to
crosshatch the handle end and the mug (for example) and then join them with
some slip. It never looks really great, because in trying to smooth out th=
e
area around where the handle attaches, I lose some of the shape (does that
make sense?)
Now, there is talk of magic something or other and/or vinegar in slip. Doe=
s
this magic stuff act like a glue and therefore I would not have to mar the
surface of the mug to attach the handle? If so, that sounds pretty nifty t=
o
me. Does vinegar act that way, too?
I don't easily have the ingredients for the magic stuff (but I can drive to
Brackers in Lawrence next week sometime maybe to get some), but I sure do
have vinegar around.
Just checking to be sure I understand what ya'll are talking about.
Thanks very much for your help,
Beth Donovan
Easton, Kansas
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Bill Merrill
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:33 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: vinegar or not
my experience my not be yours...I just giving my opinion and how vinegar
works for me or not.
pull handles off a pitcher, holding the pitcher in my left hand, and using
my tight to pull the handle, then vibrate the pitcher to cause the handle t=
o
takes a nice curve to the pot. Then it's attached at the smaller end of th=
e
handle. I use a vinegar slip when I attach the handle to the pot. It
doesn't come off the pot will pulling the handle. Works great for this, bu=
t
this is a circumstance when vinegar slip works, but causes an issue when
used to attach slab to slab on a vertical constructed pot. The vinegar sli=
p
doesn't shrink as much as the body . If you use slabs in a coil fashion to
make larger vertical forms , the slip works well to make the slabs stick
together. When the piece is leather hard and the joint is smoothed and
scraped (This is on stoneware) smooth and left to dry for bisqueing, then
it's glaze fires......where the joint is , it becomes visible, in fact it i=
s
slightly raised. The slip doesn't shrink as much as the body does and the
joint shows. I just join pieces when the clay is not leather hard and use
no vinegar slip, and in my case no joint is visible.
"Rules aren't any good unless they serve you" just passing this on...."Mak=
e
rules for yourself and not impose yours on others....find out for yourself.
Don't rely on others to supply you with their rules. Be an explorer, try
everything and things will sort themselves out. Remember, even if you're o=
n
the right track, if you sit there long enough, you'll get run over!!
Roberi Henri said...Art is the trace of a magnificent struggle".......
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