Antoinette Badenhorst on tue 16 mar 10
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Hank Murrow on tue 16 mar 10
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On Mar 16, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Antoinette Badenhorst wrote:
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> What makes a tea bowl a tea bowl and why shall I not use it for a
> cereal bowl or a little dipping dish? What about a saucer?
Dear Antoinette;
You are closer than you think! the great people of Tea often 'found'
their implements in strange places. korea was a favorite place to
find the treasures that reside in Japanese monasteries and Museums
now. these often started life as simple rice bowls that were so
unpretentious that they could be overlooked by any but a person of
Tea or another potter. But the Rule about chawan(teabowls) is that
you must make tea from powder, water , and a whisk to 'find' if a
teabowl IS a teabowl. My work has transformed itself by making Tea
twice a day instead of coffee.
Suggestions, make them lighter and perfectly balanced in the hand,
and of a clay that remains a bit punky after the fire, tending
towards open for summer, and closed for winter, and with a bit of a
'well' for the green powdered tea to collect in the bottom of the
bowl after you've drained it.
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> Also: does tea bowls differ from country to country?
My Tea sensei in Tokyo, Koichi Okamoto, uses lead-glazed (red, green,
& yellow!) bowls from Mexico that were intended for soup!
> A while back we discussed teapots and how we should treat them. Are
> there any special treatments for tea bowls?
Make only Tea in them, rinse with a bit of warm to hot water, wipe
dry, and place in a soft bag and perhaps a box for safekeeping.
> Coming form European decent, I love my teacup, but then that is a
> different discussion.
Oh My Yes! not 'better' only different. With Tea, the human attention
is drawn beyond the Bowl, the Tea Hut, and the World....... to
something grand that we cannot name. But you asked about bowls, and
here are some pics........
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Tea jar, scoop, and woodfired Chawan in a bag; and all in signed kiri
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Chawan with bag......
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Woodfired Chawan with bag........
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Chawan pulled from anagama, re-glazed with shino, and re-fired in gas
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Cheers, Hank
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Lee Love on tue 16 mar 10
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bowl or a little >dipping dish?
A tea bowl is a bowl you drink tea out of. It becomes a cereal bowl
when you eat cereal out of it.
>What about a saucer?
If you would like a saucer, that's fine. Tenmoku bowls were
always used on a pedestal saucer. Ceramic in China, lacquer in
Japan.
> I remember several discussions of throwing perfect bowls. How crucial is=
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=3DA0sets for teabowls;
>thickness and size
They are usually one of a kind, not sets. The size and
thickness depends upon the style.
> Also: does tea bowls differ from country to country?
Yes, and what their function is. Powdered tea fell out of
favor in China and Korea and was only continuously used in Japan.
For making whisked tea in a bowl, you should be able to turn the
whisk easily. The surface should not damage the bamboo whisk.
> A while back we discussed teapots and how we should treat them. Are there=
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any special >treatments for tea bowls?
You usually use them with hot water the first time. Don't
wash them with soap. Just hot water.
> Coming form European decent, I love my teacup, but then that is a differe=
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nt discussion.
There are handless tea cups too. Brits had handles put on
Chinese handle-less cups.
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi
Tony Ferguson on wed 17 mar 10
Antoinette,
A teabowl is a form held to a tradition of ceremony and in its own right, i=
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ts own Zen of pomp and circumstance, ritual, traditionalized, contemporized=
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drink tea, your dog dish, oatmeal, your display piece, whatever.=3DA0=3D20
Remember, it is a bowl at its heart and it is why a "bowl" a common everyda=
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y "humble" form (its also what the monks drank from--could have been a cup-=
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e the spiritual.=3DA0=3D20
Remember its still a bowl, a vessel, with potential to become something mor=
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e than a bowl...like us all.
Tony Ferguson
Cheers,
Tony Ferguson
Artist/Educator...Clay, Web, Photo, Video, Digital
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Workshops, Websites, Film making
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From: Antoinette Badenhorst
Subject: Tea bowls.
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 9:55 AM
Okay, you will find me very ignorant on this subject even though I am inter=
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ested=3DA0in learning more about Asian countries, life styles, traditions. =
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ybe my ignorance has to do with my anchestry, but I hope I will live long e=
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nough to have an opportunity to visit=3DA0at least one Asian country.=3D20
What makes a tea bowl a tea bowl and why shall I not use it for a cereal bo=
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wl or a little dipping dish? What about a saucer?=3D20
I remember several discussions of throwing perfect bowls. How crucial is=3D=
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sets for teabowls; thickness and size=3D20
Also: does tea bowls differ from country to country?=3D20
A while back we discussed teapots and how we should treat them. Are there a=
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ny special treatments for tea bowls?=3D20
Coming form European decent, I love my teacup, but then that is a different=
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discussion.=3D20
Antoinette Badenhorst=3D20
Lincolnshire, Illinois=3D20
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Mike on wed 17 mar 10
Hello Antoinette,
The short answer is that there is no reason a tea bowl can`t be used for
cereal, dipping, or as a saucer. Or that one of those other implements
can`t be used as a tea bowl, if they possess the right properties.
That last little bit after the last comma is where the short answer ends
and the long answer begins. Teabowls come in many sizes, shapes,
weights, thicknesses, textures, glazes, etc... But they all fall within
certain limits, and are particularly suited to whisking (which can be
`frothing` as in the case of thin tea, or `kneading`* as in the case of
thick tea) powdered tea and hot water, being held a certain way for
handling and drinking, etc...
The best way to find what bowls are best for tea is to find a book of
tea bowls which includes dimensions of the pieces, then make a few and
make tea in them, or give them to tea whisking friends who will give you
an honest opinion.
I`m not surprised at your confusion, since the definition of teabowl in
the west is significantly looser than in Japan, or I would imagine,
Korea. Sort of like the word shino...
* sorry, I can`t find a better word for the Japanese =E7=B7=B4=E3'< `neru`.
Happy potting,
Mike
(2010/03/16 23:55), Antoinette Badenhorst wrote:
> Okay, you will find me very ignorant on this subject even though I am int=
erested in learning more about Asian countries, life styles, traditions. Ma=
ybe my ignorance has to do with my anchestry, but I hope I will live long e=
nough to have an opportunity to visit at least one Asian country.
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> What makes a tea bowl a tea bowl and why shall I not use it for a cereal =
bowl or a little dipping dish? What about a saucer?
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> I remember several discussions of throwing perfect bowls. How crucial is =
sets for teabowls; thickness and size
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> Also: does tea bowls differ from country to country?
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> A while back we discussed teapots and how we should treat them. Are there=
any special treatments for tea bowls?
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> Coming form European decent, I love my teacup, but then that is a differe=
nt discussion.
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> Antoinette Badenhorst
> Lincolnshire, Illinois
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