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waste oil drip plates

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Suchman ceramics on mon 7 jun 10


I was wondering if anyone had any drip plate specs to share. How important
is the angle of the plates? If one is to mix oil drip and water drip do I
need a mixing plate in advance? Could I just drip both on the same first
plate? Couple of questions here...Thanks in advance for your input if I
don't do it later , Agin Thanks, Eric

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jonathan byler on tue 8 jun 10


There was a guy at NCECA this year who had a really slick design. I
can't remember his name right now, but perhaps someone else on list
can. he was supposed to be putting the information from his power
point presentation on the web for all to see. the drip plates were
built into the side of the kiln.

angle is important, since you don't want the oil running off too fast
or too slow.

-jon


On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Suchman ceramics wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone had any drip plate specs to share. How
> important
> is the angle of the plates? If one is to mix oil drip and water
> drip do I
> need a mixing plate in advance? Could I just drip both on the same
> first
> plate? Couple of questions here...Thanks in advance for your input
> if I
> don't do it later , Agin Thanks, Eric
>
> --
> -e-in-o'side-
> pagan by nature
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/42169721@N04/

douglas fur on tue 8 jun 10


Dig out Hank's last post on his oil kiln. It's the most scientific data out
there for fuel oil
Look at http://www.cd3wd.com/cd3wd_40/CD3WD/APPRTECH/G15SEE/EN/B961.HTM
DRB
Seola

Louis Katz on fri 11 jun 10


I read about these in Rhodes and first saw them in a kiln in Clary Illian=
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old studio. I built some in Kansas City and fired one time with warm wast=
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soy bean oil. I was not satisfied with how they worked below cone 04. Lik=
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e
many things I do it was a one shot deal.

I built some in Thailand during a wood crisis. We needed something that
would start up easier. I built them in a modified fashion rather than hav=
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ing
each louver step forward I made them go back and forth as in:
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This allowed the bottom louver to heat the one above. It seemed to help a=
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lot at the lower temps. I used something like 1x3 channel iron. I would m=
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ake
sure you have sufficient chimney. My experience tells me you need some re=
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al
draw through the drip plates. and having some sort of fire box that can h=
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eat
early helps. They do not work well in a large open firebox. At least not=
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at
low temps. In Thailand we used waste oil. You may think that this was har=
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d
on the environment. At the time I was replacing tire scraps. Tires are no=
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longer allowed in Dankwean. Times change.

The Thai installation was not much of a success. I needed several more dr=
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ip
plates. Good needle valves, filters and a high enough tank are going to b=
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e a
real help. Be very careful of leaks. Once a puddle of oil starts burning
near a kiln its going to be difficult to put out.

I could be deluded, but I like Clary's glazes better with oil (she used
heating oil).

I am hoping to build a tar ball kiln.

Good luck, I sure claim no expertise on this.

Louis

douglas fur on fri 11 jun 10


Eric
One of the issues I have is oil, like wood, is a fuel which needs a firebox
to gassify.
I think applications in which the plates are stuck in a burner port as if
they are a gas burner results in smoke and clinkers.
For the oil burner tests I've been doing I'ved developed some guestimators
that are crudely accurate.

1. Burner plate area at 4.5S.I. for each S.F. of the kiln's interior
surface (2.75S.I. for IFB kilns)
2. Fireboxes at 57btuh/cu. in of fire box

If a 2ft cube IFB kiln is 24SF surface then plate area is 66SI add 50% for
extras =3D99SI
If (per olsen) this kiln needs 80000btuh heat input then firebor volume is
80000/57 or 1403 cu in.

DRB
Seattle

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Suchman ceramics wrot=
e:

> I was wondering if anyone had any drip plate specs to share. How importa=
nt
> is the angle of the plates? If one is to mix oil drip and water drip do =
I
> need a mixing plate in advance? Could I just drip both on the same first
> plate? Couple of questions here...Thanks in advance for your input if I
> don't do it later , Agin Thanks, Eric
>
> --
> -e-in-o'side-
> pagan by nature
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/42169721@N04/
>