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Dinah Snipes Steveni on fri 18 jun 10


Hoo boy

Here we go. I have been in and out with FB. I came out when I'd been compro=
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mised recently with one of my credit cards which I promptly cancelled and t=
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hen renewed another. I strongly recommend that you initiate a credit card t=
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hrough your bank only for on-line purchases. It's saved me a few problems. =
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A chum, (who won't touch FB with a mucky stick.) whose a Big Noise with IB=
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M said that "them" out there can follow our keystrokes no matter where we a=
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re and what we do or what sort of protection we have. Willy nilly and just=
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for laughs. I believe it, because I've been swatted at a couple of times t=
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hese past few years. Do buy the in house insurance from Dell or whomever y=
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our provider is and worth every penny, as they will work right along side o=
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f you in real time key stroke for key stroke to see what the issues are and=
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get you sorted out. Your helper may be in Mumbai or where ever, maybe Scot=
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land, but bear with them and their accents which seem impenetrable when you=
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're under pressure and stressed, and please be patient because they know a =
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hell of a lot more than you do in trying to sort out your problems.

FB is superb with marketing your work and getting pictures out there. Just =
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make sure that you've pulled back personal information. Honestly, don't be =
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so naive as to blag about that you're a fan of Alfred Hitchcock, or have na=
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med your kid Scout. Who really cares? Like all contracts read the fine prin=
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t very carefully in FB. Use FB sensibly. It's a superb tool to market you a=
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nd your work. And thee are some very interesting new wrinkles with FB as we=
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ll.

You've got choices with FB, you don't have to Friend your Auntie Lily's cou=
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sins. You can Ignore them. And there won't be any "comeback". But it's alwa=
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ys a kick to hear from the Geekie kid whose now running BP.=3D20


Dinah=3D20
http://www.dinahsnipessteveni.com
www.blogger.com Dianthus Ceramics
Facebook: Dinah Snipes Steveni

gary navarre on sat 30 oct 10


Hey John & Folks,=3D0A=3D0A Well I'm with ya man. I just joined and in abou=
t 20=3D
minutes heard from my daughter who has been to busy to email or talk on th=
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e phone cause of 2 kids, work, and school. Gail G. told me I should sign up=
=3D
and do an Etsy too. =3D0A=3D0A I guess I can also connect my Fotki and You=
Tub=3D
e so even more people can get a detailed look at the brick-by-brick and sti=
=3D
ck-by-stick kiln being built and fired for FREE. One video has even been in=
=3D
vited to AdSence ...=3D0A=3D0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3Dt3bLlOzhjT=
4=3D0A=3D
=3D0A... and has earned $2.76 since August so if you need some bamboo floor=
in=3D
g click on one of the adds so I can make a few pennies eh. Nothing about cl=
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ay adds yet but I need to learn more to make that happen. I work pretty har=
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d at this crap too so I think I deserve a few honest bucks for my efforts e=
=3D
h, don't you folks? If there is one thing I learned at Wal*Mart it was to l=
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ook for creative sales opportunities so don't knock it if you ain't tried i=
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t. =3D0A=3D0A Stay in there and don't let the fearful fool ya eh.=3D0A=3D0A=
Gary Nav=3D
arre=3D0ANavarre Pottery=3D0ANavarre Enterprises=3D0ANorway, Michigan, USA=
=3D0Ahttp=3D
://www.youtube.com/GindaUP=3D0Ahttp://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/=3D0A=3D0A=
=3D0A--- O=3D
n Sat, 10/30/10, John Britt wrote:=3D0A=3D0A> =
From=3D
: John Britt =3D0A> Subject: Re: [Clayart] face=
bo=3D
ok=3D0A> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=3D0A> Date: Saturday, October 30, 201=
0, 6=3D
:54 PM=3D0A> Facebook is fantastic. =3D0A> =3D0A> You can control what you =
post. =3D
Don't listen to the fear=3D0A> mongers.=3DA0 What you gain =3D0A> is way be=
tter t=3D
han what you save by not participating. You=3D0A> can control what you =3D0=
A> d=3D
o on Facebook ....and you don't have to spend a lot of=3D0A> time ....whate=
ve=3D
r you =3D0A> want.=3DA0 Same with You Tube and it is really fantastic=3D0A>=
for c=3D
lay people. TONS and =3D0A> TONS of FREE videos on throwing, glazing,=3D0A>=
han=3D
dbuilding....!!=3D0A> =3D0A> I remember the day when the "internet" was sca=
ry a=3D
nd now=3D0A> look at it?!=3DA0 When you =3D0A> didn't post because of spam,=
when =3D
you didn't use credit=3D0A> cards on-line.....and the =3D0A> irony is that =
this=3D
is being discussed on Clayart! One time=3D0A> a listserve was scary and =
=3D0A>=3D
weird.=3D0A> =3D0A> It is not that scary kids.=3DA0 Hope on board the love=
=3D0A> t=3D
rain!=3D0A> =3D0A> John Britt=3D0A> www.johnbrittpottery.com=3D0A> =3D0A=3D=
0A=3D0A

Lee Love on sat 30 oct 10


On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 PM, John Britt wr=
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ote:
> Facebook is fantastic.

It is just the next step. I've been playing with Windows 7 live.
It is attempting to combine something like Google docs with social
networking. Very primitive, but these things always are in the
beginning.

About 5 years ago, emailing in Japan on cell phones surpassed
email on home computers. I am guessing mobile appliances (Nook, 3G
phones, iPad, etc) combined with internet T.V. will replace our PCs
for most tasks. The PC will return to home office tasks.

Much of my T.V. watching is via internet downloading and
then watching on our old analog TV via the WDTV box.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/ Right now, we are watching the
first season of Project Runway (we only started watching when Jean
moved back from Japan, in Season 7. I watched most of Galactica
this way, except the last season.)

With Google T.V. around the corner, I'll probably give up my cable
T.V. all together.

Futurist sure were mistaken about flying cars and space travel.
But they underestimated the advances in computers, bio-tech and DNA
technology.
--
=3DA0Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi

Larry Kruzan on sat 30 oct 10


Shucks Sharonia, I'll be your friend and you'll never get another email fro=
m
me. (unless it's about clay) Nobody should be without a friend that never
takes up their time with all the trivia and minutia of daily life. Of
course, if you don't want me for a friend, you still will never hear from m=
e
again. A perfect relationship.

See you later, Friend

Larry Kruzan
Lost Creek Pottery
www.lostcreekpottery.com



-----Original Message-----

Fuggedaboudit. I'll remain ignorant of Simon Leach's education. And likely
"friendless". Clayart has it's temper tantrums and rants, but I much prefer
it.

Sharon







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Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.
(Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16180)
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sharonia628 on sat 30 oct 10


You know what? I am really at a loss about this facebook thing. I once
signed up and signed out just as fast as I could. Who wants the privacy
problems? Who wants the big advertisers looking to invade my space? Who
needs this constant chatter and search for "friends" from the past, who has
the time for this?

I'm really sorry I signed up, since signing out is not so easy. Here's what
Ari Melber says (The Nation):"Even if users terminate their membership,
pictures of them posted by others remain online. But users can't really qui=
t
anyway. Like guests at the Hotel California, people who check out of
Facebook have a hard time leaving. Profiles of former members are preserved
in case people want to reactivate their accounts. And all users' digital
selves can outlive their creators. As the company's "terms of use" explain,
profiles of deceased members are kept "active under a special memorialized
status for a period of time determined by us to allow other users to post
and view comments".

www.thenation.com/blog/does-facebook-own-you-forever
also see: How Sticky is membership on Facebook? Just Try Breaking Free:
from Ny times


This sounds like something out of Brave New World to me. This kid, this Mar=
k
Zuckerman or whatever,creator of FB, he couldn't care less about about any
principles of community or privacy or morality.


Even so, I signed up originally, as I said, because someone on clayart had
posted something interesting I wanted to see. And there was no way to see
this without signing up. Today I checked to see if I could go to the Simon
Leach's educational videos. Once again, the only way was to sign up. AAARGH=
!
I tried to search facebook and received a message saying that searches are
limited unless you are a member.

Fuggedaboudit. I'll remain ignorant of Simon Leach's education. And likely
"friendless". Clayart has it's temper tantrums and rants, but I much prefer
it.

Sharon


--
Sharon La Rocca Miranda
www.sharonmiranda.com

June on sat 30 oct 10


Sharon,

Leach's videos are all on you tube, so no need to sign up to Facebook to se=
e them. A large portion of videos posted on Facebook are from your tube.

June

http://wwww.shambhalapottery.blogspot.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sodasaltfiring/
http://www.shambhalapottery.com

Lee Love on sat 30 oct 10


One of the best things about Facebook is keeping in touch with my kids
and grandkids.

It is also enjoyable to get back in touch with old friends and
schoolmates. As Deb mentioned, you can see all sorts of different
creative works. Not just clay. And many folks whose primary
language is not English. Even if you do not speak their language,
you can communicate with images, music and video. Incredible!

--
=3DA0Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi

Lee Love on sat 30 oct 10


The whole point is, that Facebook is a consolidator that brings all
these things to you. As you know, you can consolidate all your
blogs to announce a brief notation about your recent blog posts.


--
=3DA0Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi

C Sullivan on sat 30 oct 10


Sharon
Here is a link to Simon Leach's you-tube videos:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=3Dsleachpots#g/u
If, for any reason that doesn't work, go to my blog,
http://claygallimaufry.blogspot.com (ignore the fact that i haven't posted
there for a while [have been really busy following pottery friends and thei=
r
work on facebook] and posts on Clayart, plus the computer on which i do
photographs isn't currently working),
scroll down looking to the left side of the page and click on the Simon
Leach link. It will take you there.
Hope this helps.
Chae

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:01 AM, sharonia628 wrote=
:

> You know what? I am really at a loss about this facebook thing. I once
> signed up and signed out just as fast as I could. Who wants the privacy
> problems? Who wants the big advertisers looking to invade my space? Who
> needs this constant chatter and search for "friends" from the past, who h=
as
> the time for this?
>
> I'm really sorry I signed up, since signing out is not so easy. Here's wh=
at
> Ari Melber says (The Nation):"Even if users terminate their membership,
> pictures of them posted by others remain online. But users can't really
> quit
> anyway. Like guests at the Hotel California, people who check out of
> Facebook have a hard time leaving. Profiles of former members are preserv=
ed
> in case people want to reactivate their accounts. And all users' digital
> selves can outlive their creators. As the company's "terms of use" explai=
n,
> profiles of deceased members are kept "active under a special memorialize=
d
> status for a period of time determined by us to allow other users to post
> and view comments".
>
> www.thenation.com/blog/does-facebook-own-you-forever
> also see: How Sticky is membership on Facebook? Just Try Breaking Free:
> from Ny times
>
>
> This sounds like something out of Brave New World to me. This kid, this
> Mark
> Zuckerman or whatever,creator of FB, he couldn't care less about about a=
ny
> principles of community or privacy or morality.
>
>
> Even so, I signed up originally, as I said, because someone on clayart ha=
d
> posted something interesting I wanted to see. And there was no way to see
> this without signing up. Today I checked to see if I could go to the Sim=
on
> Leach's educational videos. Once again, the only way was to sign up.
> AAARGH!
> I tried to search facebook and received a message saying that searches ar=
e
> limited unless you are a member.
>
> Fuggedaboudit. I'll remain ignorant of Simon Leach's education. And likel=
y
> "friendless". Clayart has it's temper tantrums and rants, but I much pref=
er
> it.
>
> Sharon
>
>
> --
> Sharon La Rocca Miranda
> www.sharonmiranda.com
>

John Hesselberth on sat 30 oct 10


On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:01 PM, sharonia628 wrote:

> I'm really sorry I signed up, since signing out is not so easy.


Hi Sharon,

You are right that deleting your information from Facebook is not easy, =3D
but it apparently can be done. Walt Mossberg recently addressed that in =3D
one of his Q&A columns. You can read it at:

=3D
http://mailbox.allthingsd.com/20101013/deleting-your-facebook-profile/?mod=
=3D
=3D3DATD_search

He notes, though, that they don't act on it immediately. Apparently they =
=3D
do it when they get good and ready.

I'm with you. I have far more important (to me) things to do with my =3D
time.

Regards,

John

John Hesselberth
www.frogpondpottery.com

"Man is a tool-using animal....without tools he is nothing, with tools =3D
he is all" .... Thomas Carlyle

C Sullivan on sat 30 oct 10


Plus -- if you don't understand the language, there are lotza translators
online now. Copy and past the sentence to the translator and it gives you =
=3D
a
pretty good idea of what the other person is trying to say. Type in what
you want to say and use the translation to communicate.

Lee Love said: Even if you do not speak their language, you can
communicate with images, music and video.



On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Lee Love wrote:

> One of the best things about Facebook is keeping in touch with my kids
> and grandkids.
>
> It is also enjoyable to get back in touch with old friends and
> schoolmates. As Deb mentioned, you can see all sorts of different
> creative works. Not just clay. And many folks whose primary
> language is not English. Even if you do not speak their language,
> you can communicate with images, music and video. Incredible!
>
> --
> Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
> http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
>
> =3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
> the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi
>

John Britt on sat 30 oct 10


Facebook is fantastic.=3D20

You can control what you post. Don't listen to the fear mongers. What yo=
=3D
u gain=3D20
is way better than what you save by not participating. You can control wh=
=3D
at you=3D20
do on Facebook ....and you don't have to spend a lot of time ....whatever=
=3D
you=3D20
want. Same with You Tube and it is really fantastic for clay people. TON=
=3D
S and=3D20
TONS of FREE videos on throwing, glazing, handbuilding....!!

I remember the day when the "internet" was scary and now look at it?! Wh=
=3D
en you=3D20
didn't post because of spam, when you didn't use credit cards on-line....=
=3D
.and the=3D20
irony is that this is being discussed on Clayart! One time a listserve wa=
=3D
s scary and=3D20
weird.

It is not that scary kids. Hope on board the love train!

John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com

Veena Raghavan on sat 30 oct 10


Sharon,

To date, I have refused to go on Facebook, and I do not see that changing
anytime soon. However, if you want to see the Simon Leach videos, at least
quite a few of them, and they are very good, they are available on YouTube.

Veena


In a message dated 10/30/2010 1:10:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sharonia628@GMAIL.COM writes:
>
> Even so, I signed up originally, as I said, because someone on clayart ha=
d
> posted something interesting I wanted to see. And there was no way to see
> this without signing up. Today I checked to see if I could go to the
> Simon
> Leach's educational videos. Once again, the only way was to sign up.
> AAARGH!
> I tried to search facebook and received a message saying that searches ar=
e
> limited unless you are a member.
>
> Fuggedaboudit. I'll remain ignorant of Simon Leach's education. And likel=
y
> "friendless". Clayart has it's temper tantrums and rants, but I much
> prefer
> it.
>
> Sharon

VeenaRaghavan@cs.com

Fisher Cheryl on sun 31 oct 10


I guess the statement "If you don't want it on the front of the NY Times =
=3D
don't put it on the internet!" says it all. I do know that we have had a =
=3D
problem in the school system about what teachers are putting on the =3D
internet. Specifically they want to dismiss a drama teacher in a =3D
neighboring county due to Facebook. His communication was of a concern =3D
to the school board. He was trying to be too "hip" with his =3D
communication with students on Facebook. =3D46rom what I have read schools =
=3D
systems around the U.S. have been dealing with this.=3D20

Thank God I'm retired. I would not want to be friends on the net with =3D
students and parents. And I am careful what I put on. Actually I don't =3D
post much. But it is a tool. I have seen wonderful photographs that I =3D
would not have seen otherwise. =3D20

Cheryl Fisher
potterytalk@verizon.net
Sarasota, FL USA=3D

Frank Gaydos on sun 31 oct 10


John,=3D20

I agree, it has much potential.=3D20

I use it to contact our students in the 'Art Club' at school. It is very ha=
=3D
ndy to make announcements and share articles, photos and how to's with the =
=3D
kids. It is after all how the=3DC2=3DA0young folk=3DC2=3DA0communicate with=
each ot=3D
her. It is really an eye opening experience. Sometimes=3DC2=3DA0they share=
=3DC2=3D
=3DA0more than I want or need to know. I found an article sharing how somet=
hi=3D
ng posted on-line years ago came back to haunt a guy in his job.=3D20

Like any tool, use with care.=3D20

I also contacted friends from high school and army buds from Nam.=3D20

I ignore and delete most of the stuff just like I do with Clayart .=3D20





Frank Gaydos =3DC2=3DA0=3D20



----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "John Britt" < johnbrittpottery @ GMAIL .COM>=3D20
To: Clayart @ LSV .CERAMICS.ORG=3D20
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:54:28 PM=3D20
Subject: Re: facebook=3D20

Facebook is fantastic.=3D20

You can control what you post. Don't listen to the fear mongers. =3DC2=3DA0=
What=3D
you gain=3D20
is way better than what you save by not participating. You can control what=
=3D
you=3D20
do on Facebook ....and you don't have to spend a lot of time ....whatever y=
=3D
ou=3D20
want. =3DC2=3DA0Same with You Tube and it is really fantastic for clay peop=
le. =3D
TONS and=3D20
TONS of FREE videos on throwing, glazing, handbuilding ....!!=3D20

I remember the day when the " internet " was scary and now look at it?! =3D=
C2=3D
=3DA0When you=3D20
didn't post because of spam, when you didn't use credit cards on-line.....a=
=3D
nd the=3D20
irony is that this is being discussed on Clayart ! One time a listserve was=
=3D
scary and=3D20
weird.=3D20

It is not that scary kids. =3DC2=3DA0Hope on board the love train!=3D20

John Britt=3D20
www . johnbrittpottery .com=3D20

Kathy Forer on mon 1 nov 10


meant to include this ;)

On Oct 31, 2010, at 1:34 AM, gary navarre wrote:

> Stay in there and don't let the fearful fool ya eh.

Kathy Forer on mon 1 nov 10


On Oct 31, 2010, at 1:34 AM, gary navarre wrote:

> --- On Sat, 10/30/10, John Britt wrote:
>=3D20
>> I remember the day when the "internet" was scary and now
>> look at it?! When you=3D20
>> didn't post because of spam, when you didn't use credit
>> cards on-line.....and the=3D20
>> irony is that this is being discussed on Clayart! One time
>> a listserve was scary and=3D20
>> weird.
>>=3D20
>> It is not that scary kids. Hope on board the love
>> train!

There's so much chance and desire involved in development of technology. =
=3D
We have a say in the way things go. They just may not always go our way!

Our society is faced with integrating this entirely new technological =3D
ideology. What we understand and how we use it determines how it =3D
develops.=3D20

So many ideas that seem so reasonable or exciting at the time drift onto =
=3D
the wayside. Others are more adaptive or aggressive. We need to know how =
=3D
to deal with friendly technology as well as aggressive as it's never =3D
quite clear which is which!


Kathy Forer
www.foreverink.com

Philip Poburka on wed 3 nov 10


Hi Kathy, all,


Below...amid...



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Forer"
>
> On Oct 31, 2010, at 1:34 AM, gary navarre wrote:
>
>> --- On Sat, 10/30/10, John Britt wrote:
>>
>>> I remember the day when the "internet" was scary and now
>>> look at it?! When you
>>> didn't post because of spam, when you didn't use credit
>>> cards on-line.....and the
>>> irony is that this is being discussed on Clayart! One time
>>> a listserve was scary and
>>> weird.
>>>
>>> It is not that scary kids. Hope on board the love
>>> train!



> There's so much chance and desire involved in development of technology.
> We have a say in the way things go. They just may not always go our way!




I do not think we have much say, unless, as 'consumers', we of course have
say about what we intentionally purchase or use.

Even this though seems to proceed with little informedness, little real
depth
or insight or reason, beyond superficial convenience.

Quite a few things though are outside that sphere anyway, or, are paid for
by other
venues or other kinds of customers, where, 'we' as such, have no say
whatever, or even know about it at all.


Do we have any say about what 'The Rand Corporation' does?

'e-bay'?

'DARPA'?


Or five or six hundred or a thousand others?


No...




> Our society is faced with integrating this entirely new technological
> ideology. What we understand and how we use it determines how it develops=
.


Such as?



> So many ideas that seem so reasonable or exciting at the time drift onto
> the wayside.



Yes...and, unfortunately so in some cases.


> Others are more adaptive or aggressive.


Yes...and, unfortunately so in most cases.


> We need to know how to deal with friendly technology as well as aggressiv=
e
> as it's never quite clear which is which!



It's a 'Yin-Yan' kinda thing, for sure...



>
>
> Kathy Forer
> www.foreverink.com



Phil
L v

Kathy Forer on mon 8 nov 10


On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:50 AM, Philip Poburka wrote:

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kathy Forer"
>>=3D20
>> There's so much chance and desire involved in development of =3D
technology.
>> We have a say in the way things go. They just may not always go our =3D
way!
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
> I do not think we have much say, unless, as 'consumers', we of course =3D
have
> say about what we intentionally purchase or use.
>=3D20
> Even this though seems to proceed with little informedness, little =3D
real
> depth
> or insight or reason, beyond superficial convenience.
>=3D20
> Quite a few things though are outside that sphere anyway, or, are paid =
=3D
for
> by other
> venues or other kinds of customers, where, 'we' as such, have no say
> whatever, or even know about it at all.
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Do we have any say about what 'The Rand Corporation' does?
>=3D20
> 'e-bay'?
>=3D20
> 'DARPA'?
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Or five or six hundred or a thousand others?
>=3D20
>=3D20
> No...

But one person can make Facebook (with help from enhanced plagiarism). =3D
Or Microsoft or Apple (two people). Or ebay or Amazon. Or google. Or =3D
Mozilla.=3D20

And it takes people to use all this stuff. We make technological choices =
=3D
every day. Something as simple as using Firefox or Chrome or Explorer. =3D
Or yahoo or gmail for email. Endless choices. Wordpress or Blogger =3D
(oops, time's up on that one). Hopefully choices will remain as varied =3D
as people. Support eff.org and NET Neutrality!

>=3D20
>> Our society is faced with integrating this entirely new technological
>> ideology. What we understand and how we use it determines how it =3D
develops.
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Such as?

We have remote access to decisions and data like never before. =3D
Everything was by carrier pigeon before. Perhaps the pigeons could =3D
communicate and anticipate, a la Rupert Sheldrake, but we could not, =3D
unless fortuitously graced with historical foresight. Now we have a =3D
computerized web of data and personal connections that rivals the human =3D
nervous system and personal physical social interaction. How we =3D
integrate with technology will determine much about our future. See =3D
wikipedia for details....=3D20

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>> So many ideas that seem so reasonable or exciting at the time drift =3D
onto
>> the wayside.
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> Yes...and, unfortunately so in some cases.

Beta vs. VHS. Four track vs. eight. Pre-google, there was hotbot and =3D
alta-vista (and more!) Pre-Facebook and there will be post-facebook. But =
=3D
all these things are related developmentally.=3D20

There are recent articles how relational databases are on the way out, =3D
newer more object oriented things are in play. Technology of technology. =
=3D
http://whydoeseverythingsuck.com/2010/08/death-of-relational-database-2010=
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.html (pictures at =3D
http://www.cbsolution.net/roller/ontarget/entry/databases_relational_vs_ob=
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ject_vs )

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>> Others are more adaptive or aggressive.
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>=3D20
> Yes...and, unfortunately so in most cases.

Survival of the fittest. Only we can bet and strengthen the ones we =3D
like. Or sit back and let it be done for us. We are not helpless, beyond =
=3D
what we have learned.

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>> We need to know how to deal with friendly technology as well as =3D
aggressive
>> as it's never quite clear which is which!
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>=3D20
>=3D20
> It's a 'Yin-Yan' kinda thing, for sure...

It's all a yin-yang kind of thing!


Kathy

Edouard Bastarache on wed 25 may 11


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