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David Woof on mon 21 jun 10


Aaron=3D2C

Don't take on any more new glazes until you have explored the potentials of=
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what you already have.=3D20

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Take the glazes you have and start overlapping=3D2C double and triple dippi=
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=3D2C drizzle the same glaze in drools and spots over the first and second =
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ps coat. Then do the same with different glazes over/under each other etc.=
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Float a magnesium glaze on top of a very glassy but stable glaze=3D2C o=
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that doesn't move=3D2C and then put some under that same stable glaze. Yo=
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differing fluxes get to react/interact in far differing ways than when the=
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y are all in the same glaze melt. A light overspray of one glaze=3D2C or o=
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ingredient=3D2C over a dipped or poured offers other possibilities. Do a=
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esign with kiln wash or one of the cone 9 crackle slips between other overl=
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apped glazes.

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This semester I brought in an old standby "frosty white crystal" (some may =
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know this glaze) was it Zakin? cone 5/6 and suggested that the students exp=
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eriment just as I've suggested to you.

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One of the really good hits was that our basic glossy studio black now turn=
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ed a rich blue with lighter med blue clouds softly floating in the darker b=
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lue field. all still glossy but with lovely color and visual depth. Visua=
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l texture. One of the past testing I did with this same Frosty White Cryst=
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al was to float it on top of a blue green glaze to appear as sea foam with =
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a tough but pronounced physical texture. I could go on but I think I've =
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made my point.

=3D20

Some glazes will boil and grow bubbles which freeze if slightly under fired=
=3D
. knock the tops off the bubbles with a med wire wheel on a bench grinder a=
=3D
nd polish off the resulting craters sharp edges with 600 grit........USE Ey=
=3D
e protection!!!! Those wires will occasionally fly off like little eye pier=
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cing spears. Your cornea is 1/2 millimeter thick and the wire is about one=
=3D
mil so the hole won't close and heal w/out 3 stitches. a real drag. The ey=
=3D
e ball goes flat like a tire and you have 20 minutes to blindness. (It is =
=3D
an interesting trip seeing thru those stitches though!)

=3D20

try overlapping judicious amts of glazes with other cone ranges as well. An=
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d don't forget to grab up a handful of garden dirt or parking lot sweepings=
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.

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Don't get caught up in "my pots are precious" go on some blond (honest ty=
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po=3D2C really) er blind dates with them and see where it goes. There wil=
l =3D
be failures=3D2C (lessons learned) but ohh when success spreads her velvety=
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ings!!!! Fly my man=3D2C fly!

=3D20

David Woof... Clarkdale=3D2C Arizona... one who can afford to play...not be=
ca=3D
use he is wealthy=3D2C but because he must!!!

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13. Midfire texture glazes?
Posted by: "aaron cortelyou" aaroncort@GMAIL.COM=3D20
Date: Mon Jun 21=3D2C 2010 12:30 pm ((PDT))
=3D20
Howdy folks=3D2C I'm dissatisfied with most of my cone 6-7 glazes mostly
because they're uninteresting. I've formulated nice colors and
finishes in glazes in the midfire range but I have nothing by the way
of complex texture. I have a lot of lowfire texture glazes using
magnesium carbinate as the primary flux but haven't seen anything
interesting and textural in the midfire range that I can work off of
to begin to formulate my own. Can any of you point me in the right
direction? I'm not afraid to experiment and my studio is equiped with
all common and some uncommon dry glaze materials and I can pick
anything else I might need from my local clay art store.
=3D20
These will be for functional use but I'll take nonfuctional recipes
and just put them on the non-business end of the pot. I also don't
care if the texture is awful to touch as I don't sell my functional
ware=3D2C these will be just for me and my friends.
=3D20
Thanks for any help you may offer!
=3D20
Aaron
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aaron cortelyou on mon 21 jun 10


Howdy folks, I'm dissatisfied with most of my cone 6-7 glazes mostly
because they're uninteresting. I've formulated nice colors and
finishes in glazes in the midfire range but I have nothing by the way
of complex texture. I have a lot of lowfire texture glazes using
magnesium carbinate as the primary flux but haven't seen anything
interesting and textural in the midfire range that I can work off of
to begin to formulate my own. Can any of you point me in the right
direction? I'm not afraid to experiment and my studio is equiped with
all common and some uncommon dry glaze materials and I can pick
anything else I might need from my local clay art store.

These will be for functional use but I'll take nonfuctional recipes
and just put them on the non-business end of the pot. I also don't
care if the texture is awful to touch as I don't sell my functional
ware, these will be just for me and my friends.

Thanks for any help you may offer!

Aaron

William & Susan Schran User on mon 21 jun 10


On 6/21/10 3:25 PM, "aaron cortelyou" wrote:

> Howdy folks, I'm dissatisfied with most of my cone 6-7 glazes mostly
> because they're uninteresting. I've formulated nice colors and
> finishes in glazes in the midfire range but I have nothing by the way
> of complex texture. I have a lot of lowfire texture glazes using
> magnesium carbinate as the primary flux but haven't seen anything
> interesting and textural in the midfire range that I can work off of
> to begin to formulate my own. Can any of you point me in the right
> direction? I'm not afraid to experiment and my studio is equiped with
> all common and some uncommon dry glaze materials and I can pick
> anything else I might need from my local clay art store.
>
> These will be for functional use but I'll take nonfuctional recipes
> and just put them on the non-business end of the pot. I also don't
> care if the texture is awful to touch as I don't sell my functional
> ware, these will be just for me and my friends.

Several years ago I played with a textured surface ala Robert Sperry's work=
.
I would apply a ^6 black or other dark glaze, fire to temperature, or
sometimes not fire this base glaze first, then apply a mix of 50% nepheline
syenite and 50% magnesium carbonate and fire to ^6. This produced a dry
white, cracked surface with the dark glaze showing in the cracks. Definitel=
y
not a functional glaze combo.

Bill


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wschran@nvcc.edu
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Johanna San Inocencio on tue 22 jun 10


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Brian, how did you do this plate?
http://gallery.me.com/beeeg#100145/early-20platter&bgcolor=3Dblack
is it layered glazes, trailed?

Johanna
"A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
never an atom freer."
The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald


On 6/21/2010 4:13 PM, Brian wrote:
> Here is the link
> On 22/06/2010, at 7:25 AM, aaron cortelyou wrote:
>
>> Howdy folks, I'm dissatisfied with most of my cone 6-7 glazes mostly
>> because they're uninteresting.
>
> Aaron
> click on "glaze textures" link on this page - you might find
> something to interest you
> http://www.gartside.info/images.html
> I do acknowledge the work of many clayarters and other workshop
> participants in the creation of this huge collection of images
>
> Brian
>
> ----------------------------
> Brian Gartside
> Pukekohe,2677, New Zealand
> http://www.gartside.info
> http://www.briangartside.com
>
>
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Jeff Jeff on tue 22 jun 10


In complete agreement David. "Too precious" is a curse.

A friend recently suggested I experiment on paper. I realized that removed
the "This might not go well." element.

Many blunders along the way but many "Never thought that would happen."
results as well.

take care

Jeff Longtin
Minneapolis


In a message dated 6/22/2010 11:43:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
woofpots@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

Aaron,

Don't take on any more new glazes until you have explored the potentials
of what you already have.



Take the glazes you have and start overlapping, double and triple dipping,
drizzle the same glaze in drools and spots over the first and second dips
coat. Then do the same with different glazes over/under each other etc.
Float a magnesium glaze on top of a very glassy but stable glaze, one that
doesn't move, and then put some under that same stable glaze. Your
differing fluxes get to react/interact in far differing ways than when the=
y are
all in the same glaze melt. A light overspray of one glaze, or one
ingredient, over a dipped or poured offers other possibilities. Do a des=
ign with
kiln wash or one of the cone 9 crackle slips between other overlapped
glazes.



This semester I brought in an old standby "frosty white crystal" (some may
know this glaze) was it Zakin? cone 5/6 and suggested that the students
experiment just as I've suggested to you.



One of the really good hits was that our basic glossy studio black now
turned a rich blue with lighter med blue clouds softly floating in the dar=
ker
blue field. all still glossy but with lovely color and visual depth.
Visual texture. One of the past testing I did with this same Frosty White
Crystal was to float it on top of a blue green glaze to appear as sea foam
with a tough but pronounced physical texture. I could go on but I think
I've made my point.



Some glazes will boil and grow bubbles which freeze if slightly under
fired. knock the tops off the bubbles with a med wire wheel on a bench gri=
nder
and polish off the resulting craters sharp edges with 600 grit........USE
Eye protection!!!! Those wires will occasionally fly off like little eye
piercing spears. Your cornea is 1/2 millimeter thick and the wire is abou=
t
one mil so the hole won't close and heal w/out 3 stitches. a real drag. Th=
e
eye ball goes flat like a tire and you have 20 minutes to blindness. (It =
is
an interesting trip seeing thru those stitches though!)



try overlapping judicious amts of glazes with other cone ranges as well.
And don't forget to grab up a handful of garden dirt or parking lot
sweepings.



Don't get caught up in "my pots are precious" go on some blond (honest
typo, really) er blind dates with them and see where it goes. There will
be failures, (lessons learned) but ohh when success spreads her velvety
wings!!!! Fly my man, fly!



David Woof... Clarkdale, Arizona... one who can afford to play...not
because he is wealthy, but because he must!!!



________________________________________________________________________
13. Midfire texture glazes?
Posted by: "aaron cortelyou" aaroncort@GMAIL.COM
Date: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:30 pm ((PDT))

Howdy folks, I'm dissatisfied with most of my cone 6-7 glazes mostly
because they're uninteresting. I've formulated nice colors and
finishes in glazes in the midfire range but I have nothing by the way
of complex texture. I have a lot of lowfire texture glazes using
magnesium carbinate as the primary flux but haven't seen anything
interesting and textural in the midfire range that I can work off of
to begin to formulate my own. Can any of you point me in the right
direction? I'm not afraid to experiment and my studio is equiped with
all common and some uncommon dry glaze materials and I can pick
anything else I might need from my local clay art store.

These will be for functional use but I'll take nonfuctional recipes
and just put them on the non-business end of the pot. I also don't
care if the texture is awful to touch as I don't sell my functional
ware, these will be just for me and my friends.

Thanks for any help you may offer!

Aaron





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Brian on tue 22 jun 10


On 22/06/2010, at 7:25 AM, aaron cortelyou wrote:

> Howdy folks, I'm dissatisfied with most of my cone 6-7 glazes mostly
> because they're uninteresting.

Aaron
click on "glaze textures" link on this page - you might find
something to interest you
I do acknowledge the work of many clayarters and other workshop
participants in the creation of this huge collection of images

Brian

----------------------------
Brian Gartside
Pukekohe,2677, New Zealand
http://www.gartside.info
http://www.briangartside.com

Brian on tue 22 jun 10


Here is the link
On 22/06/2010, at 7:25 AM, aaron cortelyou wrote:

> Howdy folks, I'm dissatisfied with most of my cone 6-7 glazes mostly
> because they're uninteresting.

Aaron
click on "glaze textures" link on this page - you might find
something to interest you
http://www.gartside.info/images.html
I do acknowledge the work of many clayarters and other workshop
participants in the creation of this huge collection of images

Brian

----------------------------
Brian Gartside
Pukekohe,2677, New Zealand
http://www.gartside.info
http://www.briangartside.com

Veena Raghavan on tue 22 jun 10


Brian,

The plate is lovely,

In additon to Johanna's question and rather OT, I guess, what is MobilMe
Gallery. Is that a Mac/Apple thing or is it usable on any mobile device?

Again, great plate.

Thanks.

Veena



In a message dated 6/22/2010 12:53:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
johannasan@FRONTIERNET.NET writes:
>
>
> Brian, how did you do this plate?
> http://gallery.me.com/beeeg#100145/early-20platter&bgcolor=3Dblack
> is it layered glazes, trailed?

VeenaRaghavan@cs.com

Brian on wed 23 jun 10


Johanna and Veena wrote

>> Brian, how did you do this plate?
>> http://gallery.me.com/beeeg#100145/early-20platter&bgcolor=3Dblack
>> is it layered glazes, trailed?

I am not sure how you got to the 35 year old plate. It was made at a
time when stains were not available and a basic glaze was used with
additions of copper oxide and time oxide, rutile and other oxides.
A saturated iron glaze was applied by dipping and a slip trailer used
to trail a drawing on top

my post was to show hundreds of glaze textures made from 50/50
mixtures with additions of coloured stain
http://www.gartside.info/images.html
click on "glaze textures"

I think that any mobile device capable of seeing websites will get you
there if you have the URL but to create mobile me galleries you need
to be well and truly hooked into apple

Brian

----------------------------
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Pukekohe,2677, New Zealand
http://www.gartside.info
http://www.briangartside.com

Johanna San Inocencio on wed 23 jun 10


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I saw all your tests and thought they had valuable information and then
I browsed through the other images on your site. I enjoy seeing both the
new and the old. I really liked the way the trailed glaze was rimmed
with a darker color. Stains don't interest me much at this point in
time. I am fascinated by the interaction of glazes formulated with
oxides as colorants, so that is probably why this plate captured my
attention. What is time oxide? did you mean tin?

Johanna
"A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
never an atom freer."
The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald




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Stephani Stephenson on thu 24 jun 10


try this as a starting point

it's been so long, i wrote this down in the 80s, probably printed in CM
can vary from a bubbly, crater-ish surface to an alligator surface. vari=
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es
depending on the=3D20
claybody, fun to experiment with
. start thin, variations in thickness create interest. decorative.

Desert Wash cone 5 or thereabout

Borax 50
zircopax 50