Marcia Selsor on sat 3 jul 10
=3D46rom my book, Three Books of the Potters Art by Cipriano Piccolpasso =
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(1524-1579) the hand-powered extruder with interchangable dies was used =3D
in the 16th century. So it has been around for no less than 5 centuries =3D
and possibly longer.
Marcia Selsor
On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Larry Kruzan wrote:
> Hi Marcia,
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> I'm sorry, as usual I typed one thing and really ment another....
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> I guess my question was more about the use by studio potters rather =3D
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> industry. Was the influx of machinery into studios due to the =3D
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> exposure to mechanized production techniques or was it due to an =3D
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> (and definable) evolution in technique?
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> I'm always intrigued with the impetus of development. Just what =3D
triggered
> this advancement after many centuries of hand construction with little
> mechanical advancement. With no clear march towards mechanization, =3D
then
> there is a sudden influx of machinery into our studios after WWII. Or =3D
am I
> not seeing the whole picture?
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> Larry Kruzan
> Lost Creek Pottery
> www.lostcreekpottery.com
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> From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Marcia =3D
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> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:45 PM
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Slab history question
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> Not sure I agree with you on the extruded use since the G.I.Bill.
> I have been to Portuguese sewer pipe factories and Italian
> factories that have been extruding tubes for many decades preceding =3D
WWII.
> Marcia
> On Jun 30, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Vince Pitelka wrote:
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>> Larry Kruzan wrote:
>> "Does the use of an extruder follow a similar historical trend?
>> If so, would you suppose that this "recent" evolution may be related =3D
to
> the
>> march into the industrial age that spurred thoughts of producing
>> slabs/extrusions via machine? Perhaps as a result of wartime =3D
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>> needs."
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>> Larry -
>> There's only a limited comparison, because there is no precedent for =3D
the
>> extruder, whereas there were a number of cultures using slabs in
>> historic/ancient times. The precedents for the extruder are the =3D
pugmill
> and
>> the cookie press. It was only after WWII that American studio =3D
ceramics
>> really became a national trend, and that multiplied the number of =3D
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>> thinking of new mechanical solutions to studio challenges. I'd say =3D
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> the
>> creation of the slab roller and the clay extruder had more to do with =
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the
>> G.I. Bill and the number of clever ex-military men and women entering
>> colleges and universities after WWII and the Korean and Vietnam wars.
>> - Vince
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>> Vince Pitelka
>> Appalachian Center for Craft
>> Tennessee Tech University
>> vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
>> http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka
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> Marcia Selsor
> http://www.marciaselsor.com
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Ann Brink on sun 4 jul 10
Hello Marcia,
Isn't that an amazing book? I heard of it years ago and didn't find it to
be available at the time, so, since we had a daughter at UC Irvine, I asked
her to check it out and I copied the whole thing. Since then I've seen it
in the flyer for The Potter's Shop (Steve Branfman) but don't know if they
have any copies left.
Ann Brink in Lompoc CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcia Selsor"
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Slab history question/studio use of extruder 16th century
> From my book, Three Books of the Potters Art by Cipriano Piccolpasso
> (1524-1579) the hand-powered extruder with interchangable dies was used i=
n
> the 16th century. So it has been around for no less than 5 centuries and
> possibly longer.
> Marcia Selsor
>
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