Fran Bruno on fri 2 jan 98
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Janet Walker wrote..."It happens that two of my Christmas presents to myself
(thanks hubby) were Yanagi's "The Unknown Craftsman" and Dormer's "The Art
of the Maker". I'm only part way into the second book but it is
saying, in essence, the same thing as the first.
And Tony Clennell wrote..."Enjoy the books Janet. The Unknown Craftsmen is
a book I used to go over and over. In the same vein but not directly related
to pottery may I recommend another old book "Zen and the Art of Mortorcycle
Maintenance". It is really about buying quality and maintaining it to last
forever.
I can't remember the author but these 2 books have influenced me and my work.
The author of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is Robert M. Pirsig.
It is a book that profoundly affected my life. Many of our Clayart discussions
relate well to the book's messages on values and quality in one's life. I don't
think I would even be using a computer or connected to the Internet if not for
the book. Before I read it many years ago, I was very anti-technology and
closed-
minded. Would not go near a computer or be open to anything state-of-the-art in
the way of technology. After reading the book, I forced myself to pry open
my attitudes to see the humanizing affects of much of today's technology
and apply
them to my own life...
Along this vein, I'd love to hear of books that you all out there have found
profoundly affecting.
From Fran in Sedona
email: saddlerock@sedona.net
Jack Troy on sat 3 jan 98
It is a remarkable book; I used up a lot of ink underlining passages in it.
I had the pleasure of reading chapter 14 of ZATAOMM while flying over
Bozeman, Montana, where that chapter is set, so when I came to the part
where they are in the DeWeese home (yep, that'd be Josh's home. Josh is
currently director of the Archie Bray Foundation) and some mention is made of
the big pots made by "Peter Voulkas," I sent off a note to the publisher
advising them of the correct spelling of PV's family name. I'd be interested to
know if they got it right in subsequent editions.
It pleased me to pick up an autographed copy of Pirsig's book in a flea-market
near here several years ago for $4.
Jack Troy
gambaru on sat 3 jan 98
Another book to consider reading: Trustee from the Toolroom by Nevil Shute
On the Beach, is a more familiar book by this author) This may only be
found in libairies. Small quiet book that really speaks to focus and self
containment. Worth the effort to find. MB
-----Original Message-----
From: Fran Bruno
To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
Date: Friday, January 02, 1998 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
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>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Janet Walker wrote..."It happens that two of my Christmas presents to myself
(thanks hubby) were Yanagi's "The Unknown Craftsman" and Dormer's "The Art
of the Maker". I'm only part way into the second book but it is
saying, in essence, the same thing as the first.
And Tony Clennell wrote..."Enjoy the books Janet. The Unknown Craftsmen is
a book I used to go over and over. In the same vein but not directly
related
to pottery may I recommend another old book "Zen and the Art of Mortorcycle
Maintenance". It is really about buying quality and maintaining it to last
forever.
I can't remember the author but these 2 books have influenced me and my
work.
The author of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is Robert M. Pirsig.
It is a book that profoundly affected my life. Many of our Clayart
discussions
relate well to the book's messages on values and quality in one's life. I
don't
think I would even be using a computer or connected to the Internet if not
for
the book. Before I read it many years ago, I was very anti-technology and
closed-
minded. Would not go near a computer or be open to anything
state-of-the-art in
the way of technology. After reading the book, I forced myself to pry open
my attitudes to see the humanizing affects of much of today's technology
and apply
them to my own life...
Along this vein, I'd love to hear of books that you all out there have found
profoundly affecting.
>From Fran in Sedona
email: saddlerock@sedona.net
ryan hunt on tue 6 jan 98
After you read "Zen and the..." be sure to read "Lila: an Enquiry into
Morals" it is the fallow through of the first book and far more
developed in his theories on Quality. Deffinately worth the read.
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tony clennell on sun 30 jan 11
Whenever I think of Phil I think of that book. Buy quality and look
after it. Buy good boots and polish them. Buy a good knife and keep it
sharp and don't throw it at trees. Buy an old Indian motorcycle and
ride it. There are many on this list that buy quality- yes they are
the Mac users. That will get something started har, har!
By the way the rider in Zen and the Art of MM stops at the De Weese's
in Montana. Yep, that would be Josh's parents.
tc
MEUNIER LEE on sun 30 jan 11
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Ait =3D
first around 1980 and again in '97 when I retired from education.=3D0AMaybe=
i=3D
t's time to retrace that journey.=3DA0 It's one of the few that I've=3D0Are=
ad m=3D
ore than once.=3DA0 I thought it was my own personal discovery=3D0Asince=3D=
A0none=3D
of my friends had even heard of it.=3DA0 Imagine my surprise=3D0Awhen my=
=3DA0=3DA0=3D
considerably younger mentee informed me that they were reading=3D0Ait in hi=
s =3D
philosophy class accompanied by Study Guides, no less!=3DA0 As Dannon=3D0As=
omet=3D
imes points out:=3DA0 "Yes, Joyce, you are the Only One Who Ever=3D0Adid=3D=
A0blah=3D
blahblah." (said kindly and with humor, which if you follow=3D0ADannon, you=
k=3D
now is to be expected!)=3D0A=3D0A"Adam at 6 a.m." was my favorite movie for=
ever=3D
.=3DA0 I hunted for the book for=3D0Ayears, finally found a dogeared copy f=
or w=3D
hich I paid six prices.=3DA0 Sad.=3DA0 I=3D0Ahad moved away from what I'd b=
elieve=3D
d was a profoundly deep message.=3D0AThe movie was with a very young Michae=
l =3D
Douglas.=3DA0 In later years I=3DA0had a=3D0A=3DA0Psych professor who had a=
lso seen=3D
the movie and read the book and was as=3D0Amoved as I by the movie, but no=
t =3D
by the book.=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AAnyway, thanks for the reminder.=3DA0 And I agre=
e totall=3D
y about Phil.=3DA0 He is that=3D0Aguy.=3D0A=3D0AJoyce=3D0AIn the Mojave Des=
ert of Cal=3D
ifornia where it's threatening to rain and where=3D0Adriving over to Trona =
(3=3D
4 miles away) I could easily see the signs on the=3D0Adenuded mountains whe=
re=3D
an ocean had been.=3DA0 It=3DA0must have been=3DA0an ocean,=3D0Arather tha=
n a gian=3D
t lake,=3DA0as witnessed by=3DA0all the shells one can find below=3DA0what=
=3D0Awoul=3D
d have been sea=3DA0level, and the unexpected presence of salt here and=3D0=
Athe=3D
re.=3DA0 Must have been Global Warming, don't ya' reckon??
Lee on sun 30 jan 11
I thank Robert Pirsig for bringing my teacher to the
Midwest, but when ever I think of this book, I think of people who
live too much in their heads. It was so scattered at the end, that
I never finished it.
I remember a reading I attended of his surviving son Ted.
The piece he read was about how his father did not bother to go to the
dead sons funeral and Ted had to go to the morgue in San Francisco to
claim Chris's body.
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
James Freeman on sun 30 jan 11
Man, I haven't read that book since college. I think I have a copy around
here somewhere. Perhaps I should dig it out and give it another read. I
recall the great consternation caused by using slices of beer can as
handlebar shims on a BMW.
When I read Phil's lively, erudite, and thoroughly enjoyable posts, I
picture a cross between Eric Hoffer, the longshoreman philosopher (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Hoffer) and Mr. Natural (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Natural_%28comics%29), mostly Mr. Natural!
All the best.
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM, tony clennell wr=
ote:
> Whenever I think of Phil I think of that book. Buy quality and look
> after it. Buy good boots and polish them. Buy a good knife and keep it
> sharp and don't throw it at trees. Buy an old Indian motorcycle and
> ride it. There are many on this list that buy quality- yes they are
> the Mac users. That will get something started har, har!
> By the way the rider in Zen and the Art of MM stops at the De Weese's
> in Montana. Yep, that would be Josh's parents.
> tc
>
Bonnie Staffel on mon 31 jan 11
Phil, I didn't think that this topic would be of interest to me but it =3D
got
me to thinking about when first married, we lived in a cottage in Cedar
Lake, IN, just a few miles south of Chicago. We were fresh out of art =3D
school
and his job was with a paper mache' sculpture company that made window
decorative objects for the big stores in Chicago and elsewhere. The old
steam engines used to do the run between Indiana and Chicago every =3D
evening.
Many of us would walk down to the train station to watch them pick up =3D
the
mail bag by a hook without stopping. Made our day. The train ran the
opposite time by going in on the evening run and coming south in the
morning. That meant that I had to stay at the cottage all week M/F doing
whatever while he bunked at his mother's place during the week.=3D20
We didn't have a car, so I would walk into town to stop at the little
library. I made friends with the librarian and would often decorate the
windows when holidays came about. We also had an ICE BOX and I would =3D
pull a
wagon into town to buy a big chunk of ice for it. Same with the =3D
groceries.
Cooking was another adventure. Had a two burner kerosene stove and an =3D
oven
box that could sit over it where I could bake cinnamon rolls for the =3D
weekend
return of my husband. Also had no running water. Had to go outside to =3D
the
hand pump to get the best water. Also had no shower or bathroom. Sponge
baths were the norm and the outhouse was way out back near the pasture. =3D
This
was just near the end of WWII with rationing of sugar, coffee, etc., =3D
still
in place.
One stormy Saturday night, we were sitting on the sofa reading the paper
when lightning hit the electric wire coming to the house. No Ground!!!
Finding its way to earth the best it could, it went through the high
cupboard on the wall over the sink and down to the drain pipe. I had =3D
planned
on having my Saturday night bath at the sink but was procrastinating. =3D
Good
thing or I might have been dust. The lightning split a big crack in the =3D
roof
so my husband had to find a tarp to keep out the rain. Luckily the =3D
landlord
lived nearby and had one in his barn.=3D20
I loved to hear a train whistle when I lived down south. Our trains are =3D
all
gone up here. The trains used to bring the lumber barons' families up =3D
north
for the summer where it was cooler than Chicago, Detroit and St. Louis. =3D
The
revolving train bridge over the channel was finally torn down but I took =
=3D
a
number of photos of it. A very interesting era has passed into memory.=3D20
Bonnie
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