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tony clennell on thu 15 jul 10


The pottery movement has been my whole life since at age 6 when I
decided my Uncle Jimmie the potter would be my hero. I followed him
and his advice like a shadow. He taught me how to work. I have
memories of how we would pick and eat black caps then go up on the
pine needle covered roof of the pottery to sleep for 5 minutes after
lunch. He taught me how to fall asleep for 5 minutes and then wake up
refreshed. This is something he did in the trenches of Normandy during
his 5 years at war. As he got older the 5 minutes got longer. I still
do it to this day.
Some 30 years ago here in Ontario we had 17 community colleges that
taught a 3 year diploma program in ceramics. Yes, pottery was taught
as a vocation. Now there is one college left and I teach there-
Sheridan College. The colleges all decided they wanted to be
universities and offer degrees and not be lowly training centers.
Sheridan is about to offer degrees starting 2012. So who knows where
I'm headed? I do get a sense from my travelling road show and all the
noise on Clayart that there is a growing demand for the vocational
program in ceramics again. It will need to bring in experts in glaze,
clay, kiln building, throwing, firing, handbuilding, plaster etc,etc.
The course will have to be flexible to allow potters (many of who will
be adults with lifes) to drift in and out but to concentrate on a
program with core foundation courses. Wouldn't that be a great place
to teach for a week or two a year. I don't know when and where this
Fantasy College is going to open but it will. These studio art
programs where no one is taught a discipline will come full circle.
Yes, gainful employment in the craft after graduation will be the
focus not preparation for finishing school (grad school).
Time for me to stop dreaming. I got a kiln firing and some pots to
make and some jobs to complete around the house.
Later gator,
Tony

Fabienne McMillan on thu 15 jul 10


Isn't there a college in Maryland, the town where they have the gov't
medical research facilities... there goes my memory again. They have
a potter's program there; well, they used to.

Bonny H., are you monitoring clayart? We went there for a workshop...
argh... The time frame to earn the degree, or whatever they call(ed)
it, wasn't realistic for folks with lives though if I recall correctly.

Fabienne

"We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
Peggy Tabor Millin

tony clennell on fri 16 jul 10


May: This kind of program seems so doable. The college where I teach
sits dormant for the entire summer. Back in another life as a high
school teacher my Principal told me "Never let the caretakers/janitors
run the school. " They hated extracurricular activities. I think this
is the case with our colleges. Hell, if it is operating it gets dirty
and they can't work at the lazy days of summer routine.
The school year is from a by gone era when the students needed to be
home for some kind of agricultural duty. Why close in the summer???
I do also like the idea of faculty from all over. Pick the best in the
field, and pay them well. I am guessing that your course ended
probably because it requires a "full time co-ordinator". Some one has
to be on the payroll to organize the curriculum, faculty and students.
Glad it was there for you.
Cheers,
Tony

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:22 AM, May Luk wrote:
> Tony;
>
> This fantasy college was opened and sadly, it's now closed. I went to
> the distant learning course in Glasgow School of Art, it's a BA and BA
> Honours programme. It last for 6-8 years because it is part-time. We
> met twice a year at the school for the residence program that lasted
> for 2 weeks each time (while the full time programme was off) It was
> very intensive. We then received our assignment and went back to our
> home town (mine was London in this instance) and worked on our own
> with guidance from our tutors via emails and such. When we met back,
> we would present our homework and our papers. I have classmates from
> Hong Kong, Dubai, Scandinavia and also from the United Kingdom. It was
> really good and because of the short time frame, the school was able
> to hire very well-known and experienced practising potters as
> teachers. We learned throwing, handbuilding, mould making, glaze
> technology, and a wood-firing experience. (no kiln building though)
>
> This program enabled me to go to Scotland, away from work and family,
> and worked purely on ceramics and my academic courses in a very
> intensive environment and I loved it. (Also the tutorial in a pub
> with a wee dram)
>
> The program idea originated from a University in Canberra, Australia.
>
> Best Regards
> May
> Brooklyn
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:25 AM, tony clennell =
wrote:
>> The pottery movement has been my whole life since at age 6 when I
>> decided my Uncle Jimmie the potter would be my hero. I followed him
>> and his advice like a shadow. He taught me how to work. I have
>> memories of how we would pick and eat black caps then go up on the
>> pine needle covered roof of the pottery to sleep for 5 minutes after
>> lunch. He taught me how to fall asleep for 5 minutes and then wake up
>> refreshed. This is something he did in the trenches of Normandy during
>> his 5 years at war. As he got older the 5 minutes got longer. I still
>> do it to this day.
>> Some 30 years ago here in Ontario we had 17 community colleges that
>> taught a 3 year diploma program in ceramics. Yes, pottery was taught
>> as a vocation. Now there is one college left and I teach there-
>> Sheridan College. The colleges all decided they wanted to be
>> universities and offer degrees and not be lowly training centers.
>> Sheridan is about to offer degrees starting 2012. So who knows where
>> I'm headed? I do get a sense from my travelling road show and all the
>> noise on Clayart that there is a growing demand for the vocational
>> program in ceramics again. It will need to bring in experts in glaze,
>> clay, kiln building, throwing, firing, handbuilding, plaster etc,etc.
>> The course will have to be flexible to allow potters (many of who will
>> be adults with lifes) to drift in and out but to concentrate on a
>> program with core foundation courses. Wouldn't that be a great place
>> to teach for a week or two a year. I don't know when and where this
>> Fantasy College is going to open but it will. These studio art
>> programs where no one is taught a discipline will come full circle.
>> Yes, gainful employment in the craft after graduation will be the
>> focus not preparation for finishing school (grad school).
>> Time for me to stop dreaming. I got a kiln firing and some pots to
>> make and some jobs to complete around the house.
>> Later gator,
>> Tony
>>
>
>
>
> --
> http://twitter.com/MayLuk
>



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May Luk on fri 16 jul 10


Tony;

This fantasy college was opened and sadly, it's now closed. I went to
the distant learning course in Glasgow School of Art, it's a BA and BA
Honours programme. It last for 6-8 years because it is part-time. We
met twice a year at the school for the residence program that lasted
for 2 weeks each time (while the full time programme was off) It was
very intensive. We then received our assignment and went back to our
home town (mine was London in this instance) and worked on our own
with guidance from our tutors via emails and such. When we met back,
we would present our homework and our papers. I have classmates from
Hong Kong, Dubai, Scandinavia and also from the United Kingdom. It was
really good and because of the short time frame, the school was able
to hire very well-known and experienced practising potters as
teachers. We learned throwing, handbuilding, mould making, glaze
technology, and a wood-firing experience. (no kiln building though)

This program enabled me to go to Scotland, away from work and family,
and worked purely on ceramics and my academic courses in a very
intensive environment and I loved it. (Also the tutorial in a pub
with a wee dram)

The program idea originated from a University in Canberra, Australia.

Best Regards
May
Brooklyn



On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:25 AM, tony clennell wr=
=3D
ote:
> The pottery movement has been my whole life since at age 6 when I
> decided my Uncle Jimmie the potter would be my hero. I followed him
> and his advice like a shadow. He taught me how to work. I have
> memories of how we would pick =3DA0and eat black caps then go up on the
> pine needle covered roof of the pottery to sleep for 5 minutes after
> lunch. He taught me how to fall asleep for 5 minutes and then wake up
> refreshed. This is something he did in the trenches of Normandy during
> his 5 years at war. As he got older the 5 minutes got longer. I still
> do it to this day.
> Some 30 years ago here in Ontario we had 17 community colleges that
> taught a 3 year diploma program in ceramics. Yes, pottery was taught
> as a vocation. Now there is one college left and I teach there-
> Sheridan College. The colleges all decided they wanted to be
> universities and offer degrees and not be lowly training centers.
> Sheridan is about to offer degrees starting 2012. So who knows where
> I'm headed? I do get a sense from my travelling road show and all the
> noise on Clayart that there is a growing demand for the vocational
> program in ceramics again. It will need to bring in experts in glaze,
> clay, kiln building, throwing, =3DA0firing, handbuilding, plaster etc,etc=
.
> The course will have to be flexible to allow potters (many of who will
> be adults with lifes) to drift in and out but to concentrate on a
> program with core foundation courses. =3DA0Wouldn't that be a great place
> to teach for a week or two a year. I don't know when and where this
> Fantasy College is going to open but it will. These studio art
> programs where no one is taught a discipline will come full circle.
> Yes, gainful employment in the craft after graduation will be the
> focus not preparation for finishing school (grad school).
> Time for me to stop dreaming. I got a kiln firing and some pots to
> make and some jobs to complete around the house.
> Later gator,
> Tony
>



--=3D20
http://twitter.com/MayLuk

Bonnie Hellman on fri 16 jul 10


Joyce Michaud teaches a regular college ceramics program at Hood College in
Fredericks, MD. According to the Hood College web site
http://www.hood.edu/academics/departments.cfm?pid=3Ddepartments_artPrograms=
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she also runs an MFA in Ceramic Arts and a Graduate Certificate in Ceramic
Arts.

Fabienne and I went there for the multi day workshop entitled Masters
Throwing with Joyce Michaud.

Bonnie


Bonnie Hellman
Ouray, CO. USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Fabienne
McMillan
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:29 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: I see in my crystal ball

Isn't there a college in Maryland, the town where they have the gov't
medical research facilities... there goes my memory again. They have
a potter's program there; well, they used to.

Bonny H., are you monitoring clayart? We went there for a workshop...
argh... The time frame to earn the degree, or whatever they call(ed)
it, wasn't realistic for folks with lives though if I recall correctly.

Fabienne

"We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
Peggy Tabor Millin