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potters' report: best usa wheel

updated wed 21 jul 10

 

William & Susan Schran User on fri 16 jul 10


On 7/16/10 7:46 PM, "Dinah Snipes Steveni" wrote:

> I'd like to buy a new wheel. I don't throw over 12lbs at the moment but c=
ould
> do so if I had something better under me. I'd like to find a seat
> integral/fixed to the body of the wheel. Like a motorcycle seat. Solid an=
d
> part of the molded body of the wheel. Not some cheesy bolt-on three-legge=
d
> stool. Or an independent free-standing stool like I have done. I've asked
> forum before and nothing helpful's turned up. I want the saddle/straddle =
seat
> itself to be adjustable upwards. I also want a plugged drain in the clay =
pan.
> I want a foot pedal which can be click checked and remain in slow revolut=
ions
> as I "turn" a pot. Or faster revs if I should so desire. Not much to ask,=
is
> it?
Yes, it may be too much to ask.
Can't think of a wheel in production that meets all of your requirements.
I'm not aware of any manufacturers that produce a wheel with integrated sea=
t
that is adjustable. The old randall kick wheels, that I learned on, had th=
e
tractor seat that was height adjustable and some had motors attached.
I think you'll have to build, or have built the kind of seat that you would
bolt to the wheel.
> I've got a Thomas Stuart -- mid range I suppose -- which I bought in 2005=
. I
> don't want to hear from a TS rep, please; I just want to hear from potter=
s who
> have experience of a heavier and more solidly built bit of kit. Names and
> prices please will be helpful. This is a forum where we can posit queries=
and
> receive some answers. I realise there's an implied judgemental slight aga=
inst
> TS but look at Toyota, look at Apple. Judgements occur in many areas of o=
ur
> lives. Sex, buying food, choosing friends. Just keep in mind I'm not suei=
ng.
> Only casting about for a better product.
Thomas Stuart is now owned by Skutt. Have a couple Pro TS wheels in the
studio at school. Good heavy duty wheels that will handle 100+pounds.

I have become a big fan of the Shimpo VL Whisper in my studio.

Bill

--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com

Dinah Snipes Steveni on fri 16 jul 10


I'd like to buy a new wheel. I don't throw over 12lbs at the moment but cou=
ld do so if I had something better under me. I'd like to find a seat integr=
al/fixed to the body of the wheel. Like a motorcycle seat. Solid and part o=
f the molded body of the wheel. Not some cheesy bolt-on three-legged stool.=
Or an independent free-standing stool like I have done. I've asked forum b=
efore and nothing helpful's turned up. I want the saddle/straddle seat itse=
lf to be adjustable upwards. I also want a plugged drain in the clay pan. I=
want a foot pedal which can be click checked and remain in slow revolution=
s as I "turn" a pot. Or faster revs if I should so desire. Not much to ask,=
is it?

I've got a Thomas Stuart -- mid range I suppose -- which I bought in 2005. =
I don't want to hear from a TS rep, please; I just want to hear from potter=
s who have experience of a heavier and more solidly built bit of kit. Names=
and prices please will be helpful. This is a forum where we can posit quer=
ies and receive some answers. I realise there's an implied judgemental slig=
ht against TS but look at Toyota, look at Apple. Judgements occur in many a=
reas of our lives. Sex, buying food, choosing friends. Just keep in mind I'=
m not sueing. Only casting about for a better product.

Dinah
http://www.dinahsnipessteveni.com
www.blogger.com Dianthus Ceramics
Facebook: Dinah Snipes Steveni
Facebook: Dianthus Visual Arts

Robert Harris on fri 16 jul 10


The type of wheel you describe is standard in the UK. When I came over
here I searched everywhere looking for something similar. I couldn't
find one. I also opted for a Thomas Stuart which I like because it has
the large splash pan that we have in the UK.

The best thing I suggest is getting a motorized kickwheel (which
sounds like an oxymoron, but they do have them).

Sorry but I couldn't find anyone in the states that makes a European
style wheel, as far as I can tell they've all opted to make a Shimpo
type wheel. I put my wheel up on stilts so I can throw like I did in
the UK - the low US wheels give my knees hell - but I still hate
having to use a stool. I sympathise with your problems.

Robert



On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Dinah Snipes Steveni
wrote:
> I'd like to buy a new wheel. I don't throw over 12lbs at the moment but c=
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ould do so if I had something better under me. I'd like to find a seat inte=
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gral/fixed to the body of the wheel. Like a motorcycle seat. Solid and part=
=3D
of the molded body of the wheel. Not some cheesy bolt-on three-legged stoo=
=3D
l. Or an independent free-standing stool like I have done. I've asked forum=
=3D
before and nothing helpful's turned up. I want the saddle/straddle seat it=
=3D
self to be adjustable upwards. I also want a plugged drain in the clay pan.=
=3D
I want a foot pedal which can be click checked and remain in slow revoluti=
=3D
ons as I "turn" a pot. Or faster revs if I should so desire. Not much to as=
=3D
k, is it?
>
> I've got a Thomas Stuart -- mid range I suppose -- which I bought in 2005=
=3D
. I don't want to hear from a TS rep, please; I just want to hear from pott=
=3D
ers who have experience of a heavier and more solidly built bit of kit. Nam=
=3D
es and prices please will be helpful. This is a forum where we can posit qu=
=3D
eries and receive some answers. I realise there's an implied judgemental sl=
=3D
ight against TS but look at Toyota, look at Apple. Judgements occur in many=
=3D
areas of our lives. Sex, buying food, choosing friends. Just keep in mind =
=3D
I'm not sueing. Only casting about for a better product.
>
> Dinah
> http://www.dinahsnipessteveni.com
> www.blogger.com Dianthus Ceramics
> Facebook: Dinah Snipes Steveni
> Facebook: Dianthus Visual Arts
>



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Michael Wendt on fri 16 jul 10


Harbor Freight
http://www.harborfreight.com/
sells an item listed below:
a rolling work seat similar to a tractor seat item # 91495
for $39.95
Take the wheels off the cart and construct a frame that
bolts securely to the legs of the wheel you have and you
will solve the seat problem neatly and cheaply.

I have seen this rolling work seat and it can also be moved
up or down to your taste.

Regards,

Michael Wendt

Dinah wrote:

I'd like to buy a new wheel. I don't throw over 12lbs at the
moment but could do so if I had something better under me.
I'd like to find a seat integral/fixed to the body of the
wheel. Like a motorcycle seat. Solid and part of the molded
body of the wheel. Not some cheesy bolt-on three-legged
stool. Or an independent free-standing stool like I have
done. I've asked forum before and nothing helpful's turned
up. I want the saddle/straddle seat itself to be adjustable
upwards. I also want a plugged drain in the clay pan. I want
a foot pedal which can be click checked and remain in slow
revolutions as I "turn" a pot. Or faster revs if I should so
desire. Not much to ask, is it?

I've got a Thomas Stuart -- mid range I suppose -- which I
bought in 2005. I don't want to hear from a TS rep, please;
I just want to hear from potters who have experience of a
heavier and more solidly built bit of kit. Names and prices
please will be helpful. This is a forum where we can posit
queries and receive some answers. I realise there's an
implied judgemental slight against TS but look at Toyota,
look at Apple. Judgements occur in many areas of our lives.
Sex, buying food, choosing friends. Just keep in mind I'm
not sueing. Only casting about for a better product.

Dinah

May Luk on sat 17 jul 10


Hello Dinah;

When I first moved back from the UK, I was also looking for wheels as
per your description. I thought American wheels are ugly and I try to
avoid having ugly things in my studio. I am not a thrower but I would
like to have a wheel for other studio duties like mould-making and
pot-finishing and I was planning to better my throwing after I settle
down.

I thought of hiring a carpenter to make a casing for the wheel. There
are wood-workers who can make all sorts of custom furniture and wheel
is another piece of furniture that performs an important duty.

I am in the opinion that since I don't make much money from pottery
and all the donkey work involved, at least I will try to make my
studio environment pretty and creative to please myself.

Best regards
May
Booklyn

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Robert Harris wr=
=3D
ote:
> The type of wheel you describe is standard in the UK. When I came over
> here I searched everywhere looking for something similar. I couldn't
> find one. I also opted for a Thomas Stuart which I like because it has
> the large splash pan that we have in the UK.
>
> The best thing I suggest is getting a motorized kickwheel (which
> sounds like an oxymoron, but they do have them).
>
> Sorry but I couldn't find anyone in the states that makes a European
> style wheel, as far as I can tell they've all opted to make a Shimpo
> type wheel. I put my wheel up on stilts so I can throw like I did in
> the UK - the low US wheels give my knees hell - but I still hate
> having to use a stool. I sympathise with your problems.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Dinah Snipes Steveni
> wrote:
>> I'd like to buy a new wheel. I don't throw over 12lbs at the moment but =
=3D
could do so if I had something better under me. I'd like to find a seat int=
=3D
egral/fixed to the body of the wheel. Like a motorcycle seat. Solid and par=
=3D
t of the molded body of the wheel. Not some cheesy bolt-on three-legged sto=
=3D
ol. Or an independent free-standing stool like I have done. I've asked foru=
=3D
m before and nothing helpful's turned up. I want the saddle/straddle seat i=
=3D
tself to be adjustable upwards. I also want a plugged drain in the clay pan=
=3D
. I want a foot pedal which can be click checked and remain in slow revolut=
=3D
ions as I "turn" a pot. Or faster revs if I should so desire. Not much to a=
=3D
sk, is it?
>>
>> I've got a Thomas Stuart -- mid range I suppose -- which I bought in 200=
=3D
5. I don't want to hear from a TS rep, please; I just want to hear from pot=
=3D
ters who have experience of a heavier and more solidly built bit of kit. Na=
=3D
mes and prices please will be helpful. This is a forum where we can posit q=
=3D
ueries and receive some answers. I realise there's an implied judgemental s=
=3D
light against TS but look at Toyota, look at Apple. Judgements occur in man=
=3D
y areas of our lives. Sex, buying food, choosing friends. Just keep in mind=
=3D
I'm not sueing. Only casting about for a better product.
>>
>> Dinah
>> http://www.dinahsnipessteveni.com
>> www.blogger.com Dianthus Ceramics
>> Facebook: Dinah Snipes Steveni
>> Facebook: Dianthus Visual Arts
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>



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http://twitter.com/MayLuk

Randall Moody on sat 17 jul 10


On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Dinah Snipes Steveni <
jd.steveni@comcast.net> wrote:

> I don't want to hear from a TS rep, please; I just want to hear from
> potters who have experience of a heavier and more solidly built bit of ki=
t.
>
> Dinah
> http://www.dinahsnipessteveni.com
> www.blogger.com Dianthus Ceramics
> Facebook: Dinah Snipes Steveni
> Facebook: Dianthus Visual Arts
>


I am not a TS rep but do love my TS pro. I bought it before Skutt acquired
them but they remain pretty much the same as far as I can tell. I am lookin=
g
at my TS and wondering how much heavier and more solidly built you need.
Mine is a tank and will handle as much clay as you can manage. As to the
plug in the drain pan, the TS has an area for that and you simply need to
drill it and put in a plug the right size.

I am not aware of any wheel on the market here in the States at least that
has an integrated seat I am also not sure what you mean by "click checked".
If I had to buy a new wheel and was not allowed to buy a TS I would get a
Shimpo VL Whisper. It doesn't have everything you are looking for but is a
very nice, powerful wheel.
--
Randall in Atlanta
http://wrandallmoody.com/home.html

Victoria E. Hamilton on sun 18 jul 10


Dinah -

Take a look at the Lockerbie kick wheel that comes with a motor attached. =
I
had one years ago and loved it - been kicking (pun intended) myself ever
since for selling it. It's a big item - lovely large worktable attached
around the front - and heavy. The seat is attached and can be adjusted up
or down. It's not a saddle-type seat however.

Good luck.

Vicki Hamilton
Seattle, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Dinah Snipes
Steveni
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:46 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Potters' Report: Best USA Wheel

I'd like to buy a new wheel. I don't throw over 12lbs at the moment but
could do so if I had something better under me. I'd like to find a seat
integral/fixed to the body of the wheel. Like a motorcycle seat. Solid and
part of the molded body of the wheel. Not some cheesy bolt-on three-legged
stool. Or an independent free-standing stool like I have done. I've asked
forum before and nothing helpful's turned up. I want the saddle/straddle
seat itself to be adjustable upwards. I also want a plugged drain in the
clay pan. I want a foot pedal which can be click checked and remain in slow
revolutions as I "turn" a pot. Or faster revs if I should so desire. Not
much to ask, is it?

I've got a Thomas Stuart -- mid range I suppose -- which I bought in 2005. =
I
don't want to hear from a TS rep, please; I just want to hear from potters
who have experience of a heavier and more solidly built bit of kit. Names
and prices please will be helpful. This is a forum where we can posit
queries and receive some answers. I realise there's an implied judgemental
slight against TS but look at Toyota, look at Apple. Judgements occur in
many areas of our lives. Sex, buying food, choosing friends. Just keep in
mind I'm not sueing. Only casting about for a better product.

Dinah
http://www.dinahsnipessteveni.com
www.blogger.com Dianthus Ceramics
Facebook: Dinah Snipes Steveni
Facebook: Dianthus Visual Arts

Frank Gaydos on mon 19 jul 10


We have 20 Brent wheels in our studio and some are at least 20 years old.=
=3D
=3D20

The students beat the heck out of them but they keep on ticking.=3D20

I would not hesitate a second to recommend them.=3D20

Frank Gaydos=3D20

Community College of Phila .=3D20

----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "Victoria E. Hamilton" < vicki @MILLENNIA-ANTICA.COM>=3D20
To: Clayart @ LSV .CERAMICS.ORG=3D20
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:43:18 PM=3D20
Subject: Re: Potters' Report: Best USA Wheel=3D20

Dinah -=3D20

Take a look at the Lockerbie kick wheel that comes with a motor attached. =
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had one years ago and loved it - been kicking (pun intended) myself ever=3D=
20
since for selling it. =3DC2=3DA0It's a big item - lovely large worktable at=
tach=3D
ed=3D20
around the front - and heavy. =3DC2=3DA0The seat is attached and can be adj=
uste=3D
d up=3D20
or down. =3DC2=3DA0It's not a saddle-type seat however.=3D20

Good luck.=3D20

Vicki Hamilton=3D20
Seattle, WA=3D20

-----Original Message-----=3D20
From: Clayart [ mailto : Clayart @ LSV .CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Dinah Sn=
=3D
ipes=3D20
Steveni=3D20
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:46 PM=3D20
To: Clayart @ LSV .CERAMICS.ORG=3D20
Subject: Potters' Report: Best USA Wheel=3D20

I'd like to buy a new wheel. I don't throw over 12lbs at the moment but=3D2=
0
could do so if I had something better under me. I'd like to find a seat=3D2=
0
integral/fixed to the body of the wheel. Like a motorcycle seat. Solid and=
=3D
=3D20
part of the molded body of the wheel. Not some cheesy bolt-on three-legged=
=3D
=3D20
stool. Or an independent free-standing stool like I have done. I've asked=
=3D
=3D20
forum before and nothing helpful's turned up. I want the saddle/straddle=3D=
20
seat itself to be adjustable upwards. I also want a plugged drain in the=3D=
20
clay pan. I want a foot pedal which can be click checked and remain in slow=
=3D
=3D20
revolutions as I "turn" a pot. Or faster revs if I should so desire. Not=3D=
20
much to ask, is it?=3D20

I've got a Thomas Stuart -- mid range I suppose -- which I bought in 2005. =
=3D
I=3D20
don't want to hear from a TS rep, please; I just want to hear from potters=
=3D
=3D20
who have experience of a heavier and more solidly built bit of kit. Names=
=3D
=3D20
and prices please will be helpful. This is a forum where we can posit=3D20
queries and receive some answers. I realise there's an implied judgemental=
=3D
=3D20
slight against TS but look at Toyota, look at Apple. Judgements occur in=3D=
20
many areas of our lives. Sex, buying food, choosing friends. Just keep in=
=3D
=3D20
mind I'm not sueing . Only casting about for a better product.=3D20

Dinah=3D20
http :// www . dinahsnipessteveni .com=3D20
www . blogger .com Dianthus Ceramics=3D20
Facebook : Dinah Snipes Steveni=3D20
Facebook : Dianthus Visual Arts=3D20

----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "Victoria E. Hamilton" < vicki @MILLENNIA-ANTICA.COM>=3D20
To: Clayart @ LSV .CERAMICS.ORG=3D20
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:43:18 PM=3D20
Subject: Re: Potters' Report: Best USA Wheel=3D20

Dinah -=3D20

Take a look at the Lockerbie kick wheel that comes with a motor attached. =
=3D
=3DC2=3DA0I=3D20
had one years ago and loved it - been kicking (pun intended) myself ever=3D=
20
since for selling it. =3DC2=3DA0It's a big item - lovely large worktable at=
tach=3D
ed=3D20
around the front - and heavy. =3DC2=3DA0The seat is attached and can be adj=
uste=3D
d up=3D20
or down. =3DC2=3DA0It's not a saddle-type seat however.=3D20

Good luck.=3D20

Vicki Hamilton=3D20
Seattle, WA=3D20

-----Original Message-----=3D20
From: Clayart [ mailto : Clayart @ LSV .CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Dinah Sn=
=3D
ipes=3D20
Steveni=3D20
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:46 PM=3D20
To: Clayart @ LSV .CERAMICS.ORG=3D20
Subject: Potters' Report: Best USA Wheel=3D20

I'd like to buy a new wheel. I don't throw over 12lbs at the moment but=3D2=
0
could do so if I had something better under me. I'd like to find a seat=3D2=
0
integral/fixed to the body of the wheel. Like a motorcycle seat. Solid and=
=3D
=3D20
part of the molded body of the wheel. Not some cheesy bolt-on three-legged=
=3D
=3D20
stool. Or an independent free-standing stool like I have done. I've asked=
=3D
=3D20
forum before and nothing helpful's turned up. I want the saddle/straddle=3D=
20
seat itself to be adjustable upwards. I also want a plugged drain in the=3D=
20
clay pan. I want a foot pedal which can be click checked and remain in slow=
=3D
=3D20
revolutions as I "turn" a pot. Or faster revs if I should so desire. Not=3D=
20
much to ask, is it?=3D20

I've got a Thomas Stuart -- mid range I suppose -- which I bought in 2005. =
=3D
I=3D20
don't want to hear from a TS rep, please; I just want to hear from potters=
=3D
=3D20
who have experience of a heavier and more solidly built bit of kit. Names=
=3D
=3D20
and prices please will be helpful. This is a forum where we can posit=3D20
queries and receive some answers. I realise there's an implied judgemental=
=3D
=3D20
slight against TS but look at Toyota, look at Apple. Judgements occur in=3D=
20
many areas of our lives. Sex, buying food, choosing friends. Just keep in=
=3D
=3D20
mind I'm not sueing . Only casting about for a better product.=3D20

Dinah=3D20
http :// www . dinahsnipessteveni .com=3D20
www . blogger .com Dianthus Ceramics=3D20
Facebook : Dinah Snipes Steveni=3D20
Facebook : Dianthus Visual Arts=3D20

Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on mon 19 jul 10


I have a Brent model C that is now 32 years old and going strong. It
has only one issue that can't be fixed--it occasionally jerks when
turning on very slow speed--but this is fixable in newer models. It
will probably outlive me!

If I buy another wheel, I will absolutely go with another Brent.

Lynn


Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com

Edouard Bastarache on tue 20 jul 10


Lynn,

we have a stuff here that is handed out to us by the employees of our =3D
city water treatment plant when for some reasons the water becomes =3D
rusty.
It is to be used for fabrics, dishes, glassware and appliances;
it works well.
The name of the stuff is RED-B-GONE.
The name of the company is Stelem and the phone number
1-800-463-9743.
Fax : 1-514-453-6370