Kathy Forer on mon 19 jul 10
Does anyone know how to remove terra-cotta red stains from clothing, parti=
c=3D
ularly the neighbor's children's togs?
I've used hot water, chlorine bleach and Shout but they only fade stains. =
=3D20=3D
My studio is a voracious swamp-thing, owning anything that comes near it.=
=3D20=3D
Thanks!
Kathy Forer
www.kforer.com
Robert Harris on mon 19 jul 10
Try soaking in an acid - lemon juice or vinegar - for an hour before
you wash. Iron has an insoluble hydroxide, therefore alkaline cleaners
such as bleach won't work.
Then try oxyclean, I've found that works pretty well on stains.
If you've already tumble dried the clothes these solutions may not
work - they work best on 'new' stains.
Robert
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kathy Forer wrote:
> Does anyone know how to remove terra-cotta red stains from clothing, =3DA=
0p=3D
articularly the neighbor's children's togs?
>
> I've used hot water, chlorine bleach and Shout but they only fade stains.
>
> My studio is a voracious swamp-thing, owning anything that comes near it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kathy Forer
> www.kforer.com
>
--=3D20
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Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on mon 19 jul 10
Have you tried lemon juice? Put the fabric in sunlight for a day after
you saturate the stain with the juice. It works with some fabrics.
Otherwise, go to the hardware store and get something that removes
rust. It should remove the stain.
Lynn
On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Kathy Forer wrote:
> Does anyone know how to remove terra-cotta red stains from
> clothing, particularly the neighbor's children's togs?
>
> I've used hot water, chlorine bleach and Shout but they only fade
> stains.
>
> My studio is a voracious swamp-thing, owning anything that comes
> near it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kathy Forer
> www.kforer.com
Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
Randall Moody on mon 19 jul 10
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kathy Forer wrote:
> Does anyone know how to remove terra-cotta red stains from clothing,
> particularly the neighbor's children's togs?
>
> I've used hot water, chlorine bleach and Shout but they only fade stains.
>
> My studio is a voracious swamp-thing, owning anything that comes near it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kathy Forer
> www.kforer.com
>
My grandmother did this with rust stains.
Boil some rhubarb for about 20 minutes. Take out the stalks and soak the
clothes in the rhubarb water until the stains are gone. Then you can launde=
r
normally.
--
Randall in Atlanta
http://wrandallmoody.com/home.html
Fabienne McMillan on mon 19 jul 10
isn't the red due to rust? so wouldn't a rust cleaner type liquid work?
Fabienne
"We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
Peggy Tabor Millin
On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Kathy Forer wrote:
> Does anyone know how to remove terra-cotta red stains from
> clothing, particularly the neighbor's children's togs?
>
> I've used hot water, chlorine bleach and Shout but they only fade
> stains.
>
> My studio is a voracious swamp-thing, owning anything that comes
> near it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kathy Forer
> www.kforer.com
phil on mon 19 jul 10
Hi Kathy,
Better yet -
Pre-Soak all such already stained Clothing in a large Bucket of dilute Terr=
a
Cotta slip...agitate well...let sit at least 24 hours soaking, then wring
out, lay out and let dry, hose off, then Wash normally.
Should even things out...
:)
Phil
Lv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Forer"
Does anyone know how to remove terra-cotta red stains from clothing,
particularly the neighbor's children's togs?
I've used hot water, chlorine bleach and Shout but they only fade stains.
My studio is a voracious swamp-thing, owning anything that comes near it.
Thanks!
Kathy Forer
www.kforer.com
Patty on mon 19 jul 10
I've found that lemon juice, salt and sunlight work well and do not affect
the color of the clothing.
Patty Kaliher
Adron Lilly on mon 19 jul 10
If all else has failed you might try a cleaning product called "Bar
Keepers Friend". The lit says the oxalic acid (which is used to
remove rust stains) is derived from rhubarb so it should be safe to
use on clothes.
Normal use is for sinks and such.
Shula on tue 20 jul 10
Fascinating. This brought me back to my childhood (when the dinosaurs ruled=
the earth). After dinner, my sister and I had the job of washing and dryin=
g the dishes (and pots). We would take the used lemons left over from the i=
ce tea our grandparents drank, put salt on the copper bottoms of the pots a=
nd scrub with the lemons to get the bottoms all nice and shinny.
Shula
Desert Hot Springs, California USA
where I am on vacation having fun with my 13 year old nephew and he explore=
s clay. Aiming for a bisque firing tonight.
-----Original Message-----
>
>I've found that lemon juice, salt and sunlight work well and do not affect
>the color of the clothing.
>
>Patty Kaliher
Shula
Desert Hot Springs, California USA
www.claymystique.etsy.com
Suchman ceramics on tue 20 jul 10
THe Rhubarb water has oxalic acid
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Randall Moody wro=
te:
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kathy Forer wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to remove terra-cotta red stains from clothing,
> > particularly the neighbor's children's togs?
> >
> > I've used hot water, chlorine bleach and Shout but they only fade stain=
s.
> >
> > My studio is a voracious swamp-thing, owning anything that comes near i=
t.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Kathy Forer
> > www.kforer.com
> >
>
>
> My grandmother did this with rust stains.
> Boil some rhubarb for about 20 minutes. Take out the stalks and soak the
> clothes in the rhubarb water until the stains are gone. Then you can
> launder
> normally.
>
> --
> Randall in Atlanta
> http://wrandallmoody.com/home.html
>
--
-e-in-o'side-
pagan by nature
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/42169721@N04/
jeanette harris on tue 20 jul 10
>If all else has failed you might try a cleaning product called "Bar
>Keepers Friend". The lit says the oxalic acid (which is used to
>remove rust stains) is derived from rhubarb so it should be safe to
>use on clothes.
>
>Normal use is for sinks and such.
I haven't been following this thread, but happened to see this msg.
Both the Bar Keeper's Friend and a product called Zud should be
handled with care because of the oxalic acid content.
Oxalic acid is not inert.
See below:
Quantities may be low in the "Bar Keepers", but high in Zud. Both
good products for cleaning, but I would not want any residue of them
in clothes I would wear. I use Zud to clean my copper pans, but I do
so using rubber gloves and always rinse, rinse rinse.
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/o6044.htm
Oxalic acid is corrosive to tissue. When ingested, oxalic acid
removes calcium from the blood. Kidney damage can be expected as the
calcium is removed from the blood in the form of calcium oxalate. The
calcium oxalate then obstructs the kidney tubules.
Inhalation:
Harmful if inhaled. Can cause severe irritation and burns of nose,
throat, and respiratory tract.
Ingestion:
Toxic! May cause burns, nausea, severe gastroenteritis and vomiting,
shock and convulsions. May cause renal damage, as evidenced by bloody
urine. Estimate fatal dose is 5 to 15 grams.
Skin Contact:
Can cause severe irritation, possible skin burns. May be absorbed
through the skin.
Eye Contact:
Oxalic acid is an eye irritant. It may produce corrosive effects.
Chronic Exposure:
May cause inflammation of the upper respiratory tract. Prolonged skin
contact can cause dermatitis, cyanosis of the fingers and possible
ulceration. May affect kidneys.
Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions:
Persons with pre-existing skin disorders or eye problems, or impaired
kidney or respiratory function may be more susceptible to the effects
of the substance.
--
Jeanette Harris in Poulsbo WA
http://www.jeanetteharrisblog.blogspot.com
http://fiberneedlethread.blogspot.com/
http://www.washingtonpotters.org/WPA_Gallery.htm
ivor and olive lewis on tue 20 jul 10
Dear Kathy Forer,
Iron stains can be removed from clothing using a solution of Oxalic Acid, a
toxin found in the leaves of the Rhubarb Plant.
If you go this way, ask for precise instructions.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis,
REDHILL,
South Australia
Kathy Forer on tue 20 jul 10
On Jul 19, 2010, at 7:55 PM, phil wrote:
> Pre-Soak all such already stained Clothing in a large Bucket of dilute =
=3D
Terra
> Cotta slip...agitate well...let sit at least 24 hours soaking, then =3D
wring
> out, lay out and let dry, hose off, then Wash normally.
Soak oneself in it too. Then go about naked, add black and white streaks =
=3D
of grease and feathers of green leaves. Eat worms and make pies of mud =3D
and nettle.=3D20
Thank you, there are so many wonderful suggestions and good advice! Even =
=3D
this, Phil's great common denominatorizer. Rhubarb, lemon, vinegar, =3D
toothpaste, salt, sunlight, oxalic acid, all good things, yummy =3D
actually. =3D20
Kathy
phil on tue 20 jul 10
Hi Shula, all...
I always LOVED doing Dishes.
Even when I was still so little I had to stand on a Chair to do it.
My parents never once, ever had to so much as hint, let alone ask.
Soon as Supper was over, I went right to the Sink and made a look of
"Well???"
I would do the same, for asking first, if ever we had Supper at someone
else's Home or with Relatives.
They could damned well 'Buss', I would 'Wash'.
"Fair's Fair" and all that.
I always liked how the Water played and sounded and felt, I liked everythin=
g
about it.
I bet in my whole LIfe so far, I maybe busted three ( '3' ) things in my
Dish Washing.from careless moments of distraction ( Dish-dis-Traction I
s'pose )...
Though I am told most people do not posess an intact-enough Motor Cortext t=
o
even DO Dishes anymore in our day and age, without dropping them because,
you know, they are 'slippery' once 'SOAP' is introduced into the equation.
Good thing they are not trying to be Mid Wifes, huh..!
Lol...
Oye...
Golly...
Whatchagunnado...
Same when I used to cook for bunches of people, Main courses, Pies, Side
dishes, Salads, by the time the Meaal was hitting the Table, and the Pies i=
n
the Oven with their head start or about to come out to cool, all the things
I used to prepare it all were already washed and in the drainer if not drie=
d
and back on the shelf...Counters, Cutting Boards, Knives, Stove Top, and
everything else 'clean', etc.
How hard is that?
Not hard at all...do as ye go...and it gets "done".
People at the Sink, one Washing, someone else or two Drying and putting
away, used to be a happy Social thing...a fun thing, a way to visit and
converse or flirt or cut up or whatever...charming, I always thought...a
joy...
A nice part of Life...
Now that I am a Bachlor, I get to do the 'Dish' ( Singular ) or 'Bowl' and
'Spoon', since I do 'em pronto and do not let the damned things sit around
or pile up...and yes, I have to 'Buss' also in this context...Lol...(
pout...)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh anyway...
Love,
Phil
Lv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shula"
> Fascinating. This brought me back to my childhood (when the dinosaurs
> ruled the earth). After dinner, my sister and I had the job of washing an=
d
> drying the dishes (and pots). We would take the used lemons left over fro=
m
> the ice tea our grandparents drank, put salt on the copper bottoms of the
> pots and scrub with the lemons to get the bottoms all nice and shinny.
>
> Shula
> Desert Hot Springs, California USA
> where I am on vacation having fun with my 13 year old nephew and he
> explores clay. Aiming for a bisque firing tonight.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>>
>>I've found that lemon juice, salt and sunlight work well and do not affec=
t
>>the color of the clothing.
>>
>>Patty Kaliher
>
>
> Shula
> Desert Hot Springs, California USA
> www.claymystique.etsy.com
Russel Fouts on tue 20 jul 10
Phil said >> Pre-Soak all such already stained Clothing in a large =3D
Bucket of dilute Terra Cotta slip...agitate well...let sit at least 24 =3D
hours soaking, then wring out, lay out and let dry, hose off, then Wash =3D
normally. <<
I soaked a teashirt in my terra-sig and got a shirt that matches the =3D
color of my raw clay! I think the sodium silicate also helped to fix the =
=3D
color
Someone at NCECA was selling shirts colored with their clays. Why =3D
bother, make your own.
Russel
Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
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your misery that you have to love it, and the price of the misery is =3D
thirteen hundred and fifty dollars. "
- Mark Rothko, In Art/Painting
phil on tue 20 jul 10
Hi Kathy,
Also...another option -
Tie Dye parties for the kiddies!!!
Batik..!
Hand out 'Fairy Wings' for them to run around in while naked...heck, hand
them out to the adults also!
That's what I'd do...
That, and cool Lemonade and Cucumber-Chive-Yoghurt Sandwhiches for all...
Love,
Phil
Lv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Forer"
On Jul 19, 2010, at 7:55 PM, phil wrote:
> Pre-Soak all such already stained Clothing in a large Bucket of dilute
> Terra
> Cotta slip...agitate well...let sit at least 24 hours soaking, then wring
> out, lay out and let dry, hose off, then Wash normally.
Soak oneself in it too. Then go about naked, add black and white streaks of
grease and feathers of green leaves. Eat worms and make pies of mud and
nettle.
Thank you, there are so many wonderful suggestions and good advice! Even
this, Phil's great common denominatorizer. Rhubarb, lemon, vinegar,
toothpaste, salt, sunlight, oxalic acid, all good things, yummy actually.
Kathy
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phil on wed 21 jul 10
Hi Eric,=3D20
I know what you mean...
The smell of the Meat Slicing Machines always got to me...that rancid =3D
fat smell...yisch...no thanks...I used to have to scrub and clean those =3D
things when I worked in a Deli years ago.
The BussBoy trays and the Garbage Cans also...eeeeeeeesh, not pleasant =3D
far as odors go...lots of things once let sit awhile end up smelling =3D
about as good as throw-up, old spilled Beer especially.
But yes, good logic to elect clothing kinds and colors or prints to =3D
match the kinds of stains which one will get...pre-emptive...
Since I live with Birds, I have taken to wearing tight contrasting =3D
pattern 'Hawain' style Print Shirts, as just one more example.
Getting my Hair to match, is not so easy though...but, I guess a correct =
=3D
pattern print Babooshka would work well for that.
Stains from Clay, if used to in effect 'Dye' the whole garment, seems =3D
like would be nice muted 'Earth' Colors.
Ochres more or less with some I s'pose...or as may be.
Iron and Tannin and Moisture gives a sort or 'Purpleish Black' if memory =
=3D
serve...
What is it yer doing with 'Carbon Black'?
I used to scrape it out of the Wood Stove flue after running it =3D
intentionally rich for a few days...and use it in dyeing with filler, =3D
for Wood Pores for certain Finishes...I like Carbon Black...very =3D
Velvety...
Phil
Lv
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: Eric Hansen=3D20
I work daily in an environment saturated with a pigment called carbon =3D
black. The only real solution to the problem is to wear soft cotton =3D
clothes dyed black to begin with. The cotton comes clean eventually, is =3D
inexpensive, because you will need to buy new, and recycle the old, to =3D
other workers further down the food chain who need similar togs. I used =3D
to work in restaurants however and never got the smell of cheese, =3D
alcohol, rotting vegetables and meat, and puke, out of my nostrils, so =3D
black ink and iron red are the lest of my concerns.=3D20
h a n s e n=3D20
Eric Hansen on wed 21 jul 10
I work daily in an environment saturated with a pigment called carbon black=
.
The only real solution to the problem is to wear soft cotton clothes dyed
black to begin with. The cotton comes clean eventually, is inexpensive,
because you will need to buy new, and recycle the old, to other workers
further down the food chain who need similar togs. I used to work in
restaurants however and never got the smell of cheese, alcohol, rotting
vegetables and meat, and puke, out of my nostrils, so black ink and iron re=
d
are the lest of my concerns.
h a n s e n
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, phil wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
>
>
>
> Also...another option -
>
>
> Tie Dye parties for the kiddies!!!
>
> Batik..!
>
> Hand out 'Fairy Wings' for them to run around in while naked...heck, hand
> them out to the adults also!
>
> That's what I'd do...
>
> That, and cool Lemonade and Cucumber-Chive-Yoghurt Sandwhiches for all...
>
>
>
> Love,
>
>
> Phil
> Lv
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Forer"
>
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2010, at 7:55 PM, phil wrote:
>
> Pre-Soak all such already stained Clothing in a large Bucket of dilute
>> Terra
>> Cotta slip...agitate well...let sit at least 24 hours soaking, then wrin=
g
>> out, lay out and let dry, hose off, then Wash normally.
>>
>
> Soak oneself in it too. Then go about naked, add black and white streaks =
of
> grease and feathers of green leaves. Eat worms and make pies of mud and
> nettle.
>
>
> Thank you, there are so many wonderful suggestions and good advice! Even
> this, Phil's great common denominatorizer. Rhubarb, lemon, vinegar,
> toothpaste, salt, sunlight, oxalic acid, all good things, yummy actually.
>
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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>
>
>
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Alexandria, Virginia
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"To me, human life in all its forms, individual and aggregate, is a
perpetual wonder: the flora of the earth and sea is full of beauty and of
mystery which seeks science to understand; the fauna of land and ocean is
not less wonderful; the world which holds them both, and the great universe
that folds it in on everyside, are still more wonderful, complex, and
attractive to the contemplating mind." - Theodore Parker, minister,
transcendentalist, abolitionist (1810-1860)
Maggie Furtak on thu 22 jul 10
For=3DA0all you guys using possibly toxic things to clean copper bottomed p=
ot=3D
s, =3D0Atomato sauce works great and tastes=3DA0yummy!=3DA0=3DA0Wipe a bit =
on the p=3D
ot bottoms when =3D0Ayou=3DA0make pasta and let it soak while you eat.=3DA0=
=3DA0=3D0A=3D
=3D0A-Maggie=3D0A=3DA0Pate Ceramics=3D0Apateceramics.etsy.com=3D0Apateceram=
ics.blogsp=3D
ot.com=3D0A781-956-1364=3D0A517 Fellsway East=3D0AMalden, MA 02148 =3D0A=3D=
0A=3D0A =3D
Pam Cresswell on thu 22 jul 10
there is a tee shirt company in Hawaii that stains basic white T's with
local red dirt, looks just like the Virginia red clay I grew up with. Then
they silkscreen their logo in black on the still dirty shirt, so it is
mottled, and pack them up still dusty from the clay/earth. These guys were
featured on "Dirty Jobs". They just shovel the dirt into washing machines
with the shirts, use a bit of vinegar as a mordant, then set the color with
a dryer
----- Original Message -----
From: "phil"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Cleaning clay-stained clothes
Hi Eric,
I know what you mean...
The smell of the Meat Slicing Machines always got to me...that rancid fat
smell...yisch...no thanks...I used to have to scrub and clean those things
when I worked in a Deli years ago.
The BussBoy trays and the Garbage Cans also...eeeeeeeesh, not pleasant far
as odors go...lots of things once let sit awhile end up smelling about as
good as throw-up, old spilled Beer especially.
But yes, good logic to elect clothing kinds and colors or prints to match
the kinds of stains which one will get...pre-emptive...
Since I live with Birds, I have taken to wearing tight contrasting pattern
'Hawain' style Print Shirts, as just one more example.
Getting my Hair to match, is not so easy though...but, I guess a correct
pattern print Babooshka would work well for that.
Stains from Clay, if used to in effect 'Dye' the whole garment, seems like
would be nice muted 'Earth' Colors.
Ochres more or less with some I s'pose...or as may be.
Iron and Tannin and Moisture gives a sort or 'Purpleish Black' if memory
serve...
What is it yer doing with 'Carbon Black'?
I used to scrape it out of the Wood Stove flue after running it
intentionally rich for a few days...and use it in dyeing with filler, for
Wood Pores for certain Finishes...I like Carbon Black...very Velvety...
Phil
Lv
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Hansen
I work daily in an environment saturated with a pigment called carbon
black. The only real solution to the problem is to wear soft cotton clothes
dyed black to begin with. The cotton comes clean eventually, is inexpensive=
,
because you will need to buy new, and recycle the old, to other workers
further down the food chain who need similar togs. I used to work in
restaurants however and never got the smell of cheese, alcohol, rotting
vegetables and meat, and puke, out of my nostrils, so black ink and iron re=
d
are the lest of my concerns.
h a n s e n
steve graber on thu 22 jul 10
from my old college cook days at IHOP, ketchup worked better than brass-o o=
=3D
r any =3D0Aother thing the boss would buy to clean the large copper counter=
t=3D
he restaurant =3D0Ahad....=3DA0 certainly=3DA0smelled better too.=3DA0 =3D0=
A=3D0A=3D0A=3DA0=3D
Steve Graber, Graber's Pottery, Inc=3D0AClaremont, California USA=3D0AThe S=
teve=3D
Tool - for awesome texture on pots! =3D0Awww.graberspottery.com steve@grab=
er=3D
spottery.com =3D0A=3D0A=3D0AOn Laguna Clay's website=3D0Ahttp://www.lagunac=
lay.com/=3D
blogs/ =3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A----- Original Message ----=3D0A> From: Maggie F=
urtak eceramics@YAHOO.COM>=3D0A> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=3D0A> Sent: Thu, Ju=
ly 2=3D
2, 2010 9:53:57 AM=3D0A> Subject: Re: Cleaning clay-stained clothes=3D0A> =
=3D0A> =3D
For=3DA0all you guys using possibly toxic things to clean copper bottomed p=
ot=3D
s, =3D0A> tomato sauce works great and tastes=3DA0yummy!=3DA0=3DA0Wipe a bi=
t on the=3D
pot bottoms when =3D0A=3D0A> you=3DA0make pasta and let it soak while you =
eat.=3D
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Patty on thu 22 jul 10
We have an entire industry here in Hawaii. Red Dirt stained garments. Mik=
e
Rowe from "Dirty Jobs" did a segment on the start of it all here on Kauai.
Here is their webpage. http://www.dirtshirt.com/
Patty Kaliher
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