Elizabeth Priddy on wed 4 aug 10
Hey! I invented a tile/bat system (see archives) about 20 years ago and go=
t it out there. There are a lot of ones like it on the market.
Joe Dillett's is better than mine. He solved a problem that was my only be=
ef with my system and that none of the other systems correct either.
His is awesome. I would still use tile to throw on for the release, but th=
at is not the improvement. Props!
http://ceramicartsdaily.org/clay-tools/making-clay-tools/diy-clay-tools-vid=
eo-contest-finalist-3/
- ePriddy
Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
Robert Harris on wed 4 aug 10
The very best tile bat system I have used was in the UK, and I no
longer see anyone selling it. It was essentially a huge hard(ish)
rubber disc that had a flange all the way around that gripped the side
of the wheel head. No bat pins required. In the center was a square
indent that the tile fitted into. Because it was flexible rubber it
held the tile securely no matter how beaten up the tile had become. It
had a divot on one side that any tool or screwdriver could be inserted
into to pry up the tile.
The guy that owns it has probably thrown about 10,000 mugs and bowls
on the thing and it still looks like it's in perfect condition.
The rubber was about the same density and flexibility as a yellow
Sherrill mud tool (or thereabouts.). I have often thought I should ask
Bill Merrill if he has ever thought about making something like that.
I wish I could find one.
Robert
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Elizabeth Priddy wr=
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ote:
> Hey! =3DA0I invented a tile/bat system (see archives) about 20 years ago =
an=3D
d got it out there. =3DA0There are a lot of ones like it on the market.
>
> Joe Dillett's is better than mine. =3DA0He solved a problem that was my o=
nl=3D
y beef with my system and that none of the other systems correct either.
>
> His is awesome. =3DA0I would still use tile to throw on for the release, =
bu=3D
t that is not the improvement. =3DA0Props!
>
> http://ceramicartsdaily.org/clay-tools/making-clay-tools/diy-clay-tools-v=
=3D
ideo-contest-finalist-3/
>
> - ePriddy
>
> Elizabeth Priddy
> Beaufort, NC - USA
>
> http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
>
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Elizabeth Priddy on wed 4 aug 10
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Dillett's solves, when you wind up throwing something with a low flanged r=
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im close to the tile. In this case, when you lift it up, you sometimes jab=
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the pot with the screwdriver. A spaz move, and avoidable, but it happens =
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with beginners to a tile system and makes them not like the system because =
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r an=3D
d allow the user to pushe the tile out to the side for lifting, so no jerk =
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that can throw a kink into the flange.=3D0A=3D0AThe rubber one sounds good,=
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re will fix you up and you can just make it yourself!=3D0A"Castable rubber =
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silicon" is what you want, make it any color you like....=3D0A- ePriddy=3D=
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=3D0AElizabeth Priddy=3D0ABeaufort, NC - USA=3D0A=3D0Ahttp://www.elizabethp=
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Robert Harris on wed 4 aug 10
Yes I did think of making one myself. I even found the rubber I
thought might be good to use. However I'm not sure how professional a
job I could do. I'd be worried about getting bubbles etc. The rubber
really is good for holding the tile solidly though, and is pretty
lenient on tiles that are a few millimetres smaller or larger.
Definitely a nice project for a rainy day.
You're right that it doesn't solve the low flange problem, but I never
use my tiles for that sort of form anyway. If I'm going to make that
sort of thing I'd just use a regular old 12" bat. The one worry I'd
have using Dillett's system is that when I was splitting it in half
I'd flick it up onto the bottom of the flange. Have I mentioned I'm a
bit of a klutz....
Still definitely a nice twist on the normal system.
R
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Elizabeth Priddy wro=
=3D
te:
> That one sounds really good!
>
> It would still have the same problem that Dillett's solves, when you wind=
=3D
up throwing something with a low flanged rim close to the tile. =3DA0In th=
is=3D
case, when you lift it up, you sometimes jab the pot with the screwdriver.=
=3D
=3DA0A spaz move, and avoidable, but it happens with beginners to a tile s=
ys=3D
tem and makes them not like the system because of the user error!
>
> In these cases, his can snap off half the holder and allow the user to pu=
=3D
she the tile out to the side for lifting, so no jerk that can throw a kink =
=3D
into the flange.
>
> The rubber one sounds good, I am pretty sure you could easily make that w=
=3D
ith materials for a rubber mother mold and a round deep dish pizza pan and =
=3D
a tile.
>
> Sculpting supply store will fix you up and you can just make it yourself!
> "Castable rubber or silicon" is what you want, make it any color you like=
=3D
....
> - ePriddy
>
> Elizabeth Priddy
> Beaufort, NC - USA
>
> http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Robert Harris wrote:
>
>> From: Robert Harris
>> Subject: Re: tile/bat system improvement
>> To: "Elizabeth Priddy"
>> Cc: Clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>> Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 2:48 PM
>> The very best tile bat system I have
>> used was in the UK, and I no
>> longer see anyone selling it. It was essentially a huge
>> hard(ish)
>> rubber disc that had a flange all the way around that
>> gripped the side
>> of the wheel head. No bat pins required. In the center was
>> a square
>> indent that the tile fitted into. Because it was flexible
>> rubber it
>> held the tile securely no matter how beaten up the tile had
>> become. It
>> had a divot on one side that any tool or screwdriver could
>> be inserted
>> into to pry up the tile.
>>
>> The guy that owns it has probably thrown about 10,000 mugs
>> and bowls
>> on the thing and it still looks like it's in perfect
>> condition.
>>
>> The rubber was about the same density and flexibility as a
>> yellow
>> Sherrill mud tool (or thereabouts.). I have often thought I
>> should ask
>> Bill Merrill if he has ever thought about making something
>> like that.
>> I wish I could find one.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Elizabeth Priddy
>> wrote:
>> > Hey! =3DA0I invented a tile/bat system (see archives)
>> about 20 years ago and got it out there. =3DA0There are a lot
>> of ones like it on the market.
>> >
>> > Joe Dillett's is better than mine. =3DA0He solved a
>> problem that was my only beef with my system and that none
>> of the other systems correct either.
>
>
>
>
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Elizabeth Priddy on wed 4 aug 10
I think you should go for it.
If you do not have a very large deep dish pizza pan, just use scrap clay to=
make a big dam about 1-2 inches larger than your wheel head. The bubbles =
and such in the rubber won't matter at all. Why would they unless you were=
greater than 30 % bubble to solid surface? It would just make it nubby.
The trick would be getting a clean edge for the tile, but that is also no b=
iggie as rubber cuts with a sharp knife for trimming any ragged bits.
Make it! You can do it!
The spaz factor seems to come into play at every level and procedure of mak=
ing pots!
- ePriddy
Elizabeth Priddy
Beaufort, NC - USA
http://www.elizabethpriddy.com
--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Robert Harris wrote:
> From: Robert Harris
> Subject: Re: tile/bat system improvement
> To: "Elizabeth Priddy"
> Cc: Clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 3:25 PM
> Yes I did think of making one myself.
> I even found the rubber I
> thought might be good to use. However I'm not sure how
> professional a
> job I could do. I'd be worried about getting bubbles etc.
> The rubber
> really is good for holding the tile solidly though, and is
> pretty
> lenient on tiles that are a few millimetres smaller or
> larger.
> Definitely a nice project for a rainy day.
>
> You're right that it doesn't solve the low flange problem,
> but I never
> use my tiles for that sort of form anyway. If I'm going to
> make that
> sort of thing I'd just use a regular old 12" bat. The one
> worry I'd
> have using Dillett's system is that when I was splitting it
> in half
> I'd flick it up onto the bottom of the flange. Have I
> mentioned I'm a
> bit of a klutz....
>
> Still definitely a nice twist on the normal system.
>
> R
>
>
>
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