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glaze calculation software for mac - revisited

updated thu 12 aug 10

 

Susan Cline on mon 9 aug 10


I don't have experience with any program except GlazeMaster, but it
surely runs well on my Mac. John Hesselberth programmed it using
Filemaker, which is a straightforward and user-friendly application. I
think you can download a trial copy from John's website. AND - you get
the added bonus that John and Ron Roy are regulars on Clayart and
happy to answer your questions.

Sue Cline
Cincinnati OH

On Aug 9, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Karen Gringhuis wrote:

> HYPERGLAZE, HYPERGLAZE, HYPERGLAZE. I carry it on a dedicated
> separate hard
> drive and "don't leave home without it."

Fabienne McMillan on mon 9 aug 10


Hello folks,

I have switched to an Apple and would like opinions as to what runs
best on this OS _these days_ and why is it your think so :)

Thanks for the input,


Fabienne

"We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
Peggy Tabor Millin

Karen Gringhuis on mon 9 aug 10


HYPERGLAZE, HYPERGLAZE, HYPERGLAZE. I carry it on a dedicated separate h=
=3D
ard
drive and "don't leave home without it."

William & Susan Schran User on mon 9 aug 10


On 8/9/10 6:43 PM, "Fabienne McMillan" wrote:

> Hello folks,
> I have switched to an Apple and would like opinions as to what runs
> best on this OS _these days_ and why is it your think so :)
> Thanks for the input,

Congrats on the Apple.
Last year I tested GlazeMaster and Insight on my Mac on the latest OS,
v10.4 then v10.5.

Since I was planning on using the glaze calc program for myself, then
another copy in the computer for the studio at school, I always had in my
mind the ease of use and learning curve of the students.

Both worked well with the Mac OS, but for me, GlazeMaster just seemed a bit
more intuitive. Insight has a better online data base to draw from, but one
can enter new data about materials in both programs.

In the end, knowing John & Ron steered me towards GlazeMaster.

Bill
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com

Johanna San Inocencio on mon 9 aug 10


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.

Johanna
"A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
never an atom freer."
The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald


On 8/9/2010 5:43 PM, Fabienne McMillan wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I have switched to an Apple and would like opinions as to what runs
> best on this OS _these days_ and why is it your think so :)
>
> Thanks for the input,
>
>
> Fabienne
>
> "We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
> Peggy Tabor Millin
>
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Eric Hansen on tue 10 aug 10


I use Hyperglaze. I downloaded Insight but never got it up to speed. I
have been with Hyperglaze when it was still based on HyperCard, one of
the earliest personal computer environment that allowed data base,
spreadsheet, and word processing elements to coexist in the same
window - now that goes WAY back

- h a n s e n -

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Johanna San Inocencio
wrote:
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> Insight is available for both Mac and Windows. I can't speak for any othe=
=3D
rs.
>
> Johanna
> "A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
> =3DA0never an atom freer."
> The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald
>
>
> On 8/9/2010 5:43 PM, Fabienne McMillan wrote:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I have switched to an Apple and would like opinions as to what runs
>> best on this OS _these days_ and why is it your think so :)
>>
>> Thanks for the input,
>>
>>
>> Fabienne
>>
>> "We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
>> Peggy Tabor Millin
>>
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
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Eric Alan Hansen
Stonehouse Studio Pottery
Alexandria, Virginia
americanpotter.blogspot.com
thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
hansencookbook.blogspot.com
"To me, human life in all its forms, individual and aggregate, is a
perpetual wonder: the flora of the earth and sea is full of beauty and
of mystery which seeks science to understand; the fauna of land and
ocean is not less wonderful; the world which holds them both, and the
great universe that folds it in on everyside, are still more
wonderful, complex, and attractive to the contemplating mind." -
Theodore Parker, minister, transcendentalist, abolitionist (1810-1860)

Martin Rice on tue 10 aug 10


When I saw the name Hyperglaze I wondered whether it had anything to do wit=
h HyperCard because the web site refers in a few places to stacks. Wow, you=
're right, it does go WAY back. When I started my first software company in=
1989 -- it was called HyperGlot -- we did all of our original products in =
HyperCard. Lots of memories here. I wonder what Hyperglaze is written in no=
w?

Martin
Signal Mountain, TN


On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Eric Hansen wrote:

> I use Hyperglaze. I downloaded Insight but never got it up to speed. I
> have been with Hyperglaze when it was still based on HyperCard, one of
> the earliest personal computer environment that allowed data base,
> spreadsheet, and word processing elements to coexist in the same
> window - now that goes WAY back
>
> - h a n s e n -
>

John Post on tue 10 aug 10


My favorite glaze program on the Mac is Glazchem. The reason I like
it is that the program has a "Make Suggestion" button. If you are
learning about glazes the "Make Suggestion" button helps you
substitute one glaze material for another. It is a great learning and
teaching tool. It is the only program I know of that has this feature.

Glazchem is a Windows program. There are a variety of ways to run it
on a Mac. You can use Crossover software which allows you to run
Glazchem without installing Windows on your Mac. The cost of Glazchem
is 35 dollars and the cost of Crossover is 40 dollars. I have tested
Crossover with Glazchem on my Mac and it works great.

http://www.dinoclay.com/software/glzchem.html
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

You can try both of these programs for free for one month. Crossover
will send you a 15% off coupon near the end of the trial to entice you
to purchase it. So $69 will get you both of these programs.

Another way to run Glazchem on a Mac is to install Parallels
software. This software allows you to run Windows at the same time
you are running your Mac OS. It costs 99 dollars. You must also have
a copy of Windows to install on your Mac. I use Parallels because if
I am creating a website, it lets me have a look at using Internet
Explorer, which renders websites quite differently than Firefox,
Safari and many other web browsers.

I have a couple of youtube videos I made for Glazchem, the links are
below...

Part one, showing how to enter a recipe into Glazchem
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrPostArtTeacher#p/u/2/t-STG11gBhE

Part two, showing how to use the Make Suggestion button
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrPostArtTeacher#p/u/3/RCao5VSshzc


John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan

http://www.johnpost.us

Johanna San Inocencio on tue 10 aug 10


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Can you use Hyperglaze to develop claybodies? What file format does it
use to save files? Can you import glaze recipes from other programs? I
have been taking a serious look at the different programs available
before I get really attached to any of them.

Johanna
"A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
never an atom freer."
The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald


On 8/10/2010 5:24 AM, Eric Hansen wrote:
> I use Hyperglaze. I downloaded Insight but never got it up to speed. I
> have been with Hyperglaze when it was still based on HyperCard, one of
> the earliest personal computer environment that allowed data base,
> spreadsheet, and word processing elements to coexist in the same
> window - now that goes WAY back
>
> - h a n s e n -
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Johanna San Inocencio
> wrote:
>
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>> Insight is available for both Mac and Windows. I can't speak for any oth=
ers.
>>
>> Johanna
>> "A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
>> never an atom freer."
>> The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald
>>
>>
>> On 8/9/2010 5:43 PM, Fabienne McMillan wrote:
>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> I have switched to an Apple and would like opinions as to what runs
>>> best on this OS _these days_ and why is it your think so :)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input,
>>>
>>>
>>> Fabienne
>>>
>>> "We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
>>> Peggy Tabor Millin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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01:35:00
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Eric Hansen on tue 10 aug 10


Johanna: projecting what cone a glaze or clay is going to be by
calculation and/or limits? Hyperglaze does that for glazes, but of
course it is kind of a general tool as exactly which materials you use
has a much or more to do with what the maturing range is than the
formula. And I don't think it does this for clay, but the software
does have an index, database, and does calculation for clays.

It is lacking a section for terra sig, underglazes, slips and engobes
however. You would have to store them in the glaze indexed area.

- h -

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Johanna San Inocencio
wrote:
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>
> Can you use Hyperglaze to develop claybodies? What file format does it
> use to save files? Can you import glaze recipes from other programs? I
> have been taking a serious look at the different programs available
> before I get really attached to any of them.
>
> Johanna
> "A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
> =3DA0never an atom freer."
> The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald
>
>
> On 8/10/2010 5:24 AM, Eric Hansen wrote:
>> I use Hyperglaze. I downloaded Insight but never got it up to speed. I
>> have been with Hyperglaze when it was still based on HyperCard, one of
>> the earliest personal computer environment that allowed data base,
>> spreadsheet, and word processing elements to coexist in the same
>> window - now that goes WAY back
>>
>> - h a n s e n -
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Johanna San Inocencio
>> =3DA0wrote:
>>
>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1; format=3D3Dflowed
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>
>>> Insight is available for both Mac and Windows. I can't speak for any ot=
=3D
hers.
>>>
>>> Johanna
>>> "A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
>>> =3DA0 never an atom freer."
>>> The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/9/2010 5:43 PM, Fabienne McMillan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>
>>>> I have switched to an Apple and would like opinions as to what runs
>>>> best on this OS _these days_ and why is it your think so :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the input,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fabienne
>>>>
>>>> "We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
>>>> Peggy Tabor Millin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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=3D
10 01:35:00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
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Eric Alan Hansen
Stonehouse Studio Pottery
Alexandria, Virginia
americanpotter.blogspot.com
thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
hansencookbook.blogspot.com
"To me, human life in all its forms, individual and aggregate, is a
perpetual wonder: the flora of the earth and sea is full of beauty and
of mystery which seeks science to understand; the fauna of land and
ocean is not less wonderful; the world which holds them both, and the
great universe that folds it in on everyside, are still more
wonderful, complex, and attractive to the contemplating mind." -
Theodore Parker, minister, transcendentalist, abolitionist (1810-1860)

Ron Roy on tue 10 aug 10


Hi Eric,

I use calculation to maintain clay bodies - it can be done with any =3D20
calculation program.

It's just a matter of comparing how much iron, silica and alumina to fluxes=
.

I have many examples to compare with and regular test results but any =3D20
potter could do the same with their own bodies if they have the recipe.

Let me know if you need more about this - I have to find a way of =3D20
passing on the procedure and would welcome some help.

RR


Quoting Eric Hansen :

> Johanna: projecting what cone a glaze or clay is going to be by
> calculation and/or limits? Hyperglaze does that for glazes, but of
> course it is kind of a general tool as exactly which materials you use
> has a much or more to do with what the maturing range is than the
> formula. And I don't think it does this for clay, but the software
> does have an index, database, and does calculation for clays.
>
> It is lacking a section for terra sig, underglazes, slips and engobes
> however. You would have to store them in the glaze indexed area.
>
> - h -
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Johanna San Inocencio
> wrote:
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1; format=3D3Dflowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>
>> Can you use Hyperglaze to develop claybodies? What file format does it
>> use to save files? Can you import glaze recipes from other programs? I
>> have been taking a serious look at the different programs available
>> before I get really attached to any of them.
>>
>> Johanna
>> "A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
>> =3DA0never an atom freer."
>> The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald
>>
>>
>> On 8/10/2010 5:24 AM, Eric Hansen wrote:
>>> I use Hyperglaze. I downloaded Insight but never got it up to speed. I
>>> have been with Hyperglaze when it was still based on HyperCard, one of
>>> the earliest personal computer environment that allowed data base,
>>> spreadsheet, and word processing elements to coexist in the same
>>> window - now that goes WAY back
>>>
>>> - h a n s e n -
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Johanna San Inocencio
>>> =3DA0wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D3DISO-8859-1; format=3D3Dflowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>>
>>>> Insight is available for both Mac and Windows. I can't speak for =3D20
>>>> any others.
>>>>
>>>> Johanna
>>>> "A man is as free as he chooses to make himself,
>>>> =3DA0 never an atom freer."
>>>> The Raven, Lillith by George MacDonald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/9/2010 5:43 PM, Fabienne McMillan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have switched to an Apple and would like opinions as to what runs
>>>>> best on this OS _these days_ and why is it your think so :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the input,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fabienne
>>>>>
>>>>> "We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
>>>>> Peggy Tabor Millin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: =3D20
>>>>> 08/09/10 01:35:00
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
> --
> Eric Alan Hansen
> Stonehouse Studio Pottery
> Alexandria, Virginia
> americanpotter.blogspot.com
> thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
> hansencookbook.blogspot.com
> "To me, human life in all its forms, individual and aggregate, is a
> perpetual wonder: the flora of the earth and sea is full of beauty and
> of mystery which seeks science to understand; the fauna of land and
> ocean is not less wonderful; the world which holds them both, and the
> great universe that folds it in on everyside, are still more
> wonderful, complex, and attractive to the contemplating mind." -
> Theodore Parker, minister, transcendentalist, abolitionist (1810-1860)
>

Louis Katz on wed 11 aug 10


I have been using Hyperglaze for years. My first calculation software was=
=3D

Insight, that I used on school computers. When I first bought Hyperglaze =
=3D
it
was very slow, but way more intuitive than Insight which ran on DOS , but=
=3D

those considerations are in the past now. Both are new programs.

I like the storage and interface on Hyperglaze but the way you tweak
calculations in Insight and Glazemaster might be easier. I don't think yo=
=3D
u
can loose with any of them. You get used to the quirks. Hyperglaze runs o=
=3D
n
Linux Windows and Mac.

You can use my FREE program. It was originally written in 1975 or 1976 fo=
=3D
r
the U of Michigan Mainframe in PLC . You sent it problems with punch card=
=3D
s.
Now its in php.
Its very thin.

It is designed for stoneware glazes and uses a limited glaze ingredient s=
=3D
et.
If it can't solve your problem it spits out negative numbers. The one thi=
=3D
ng
its good at is balancing K2O and NaO . If you feed it a unity formula tha=
=3D
t
can be solved with Custer or Neph Sy it will tell you how much of each yo=
=3D
u
need to get the proper ratio of Potash and Soda. Its automatic and fast.

http://falcon.tamucc.edu/~lkatz/gc1/input.htm
Hosted by the Island University

Glazes look better when you calculate them with a slide rule.

Louis

Fabienne McMillan on wed 11 aug 10


Thank you all for your generosity and time. I have a 10 year old
version of Insight (MS Win OS) so the learning curve there would be
probably close to nil and I am also familiar with GlazeChem that I
used as well back then. I have narrowed it down based on price and
remarks you have provided.

Thank you again. Cheers,

Fabienne

"We never touch people so lightly that we do not leave a trace." ~
Peggy Tabor Millin