Linda Kiepke on tue 21 sep 10
Hello All -=3D20
I am seeking advice regarding a kiln offered to our non-profit studio as =
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a donation. The kiln is an older (from the 80's?) 12 cubic foot Geil =3D
fiber kiln. We were informed the fiber walls contain asbestos. The =3D
current owner has agreed to remove and properly dispose of the walls. =3D
He suggests the fiber is still fine. I am suspect. I believe the fiber =
=3D
would be stripped if I request.=3D20
We are 40 Resident Artists operating in a shared space by volunteer =3D
power. We contract with some of our members to teach classes open to the =
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public. This is not a matter of not having enough kilns. Our artists =3D
have access to (an ancient yet working well) Alipine kiln, a nicely =3D
built new downdraft soda kiln, and three electric kilns. The cleaning =
=3D
and rebuilding of this Geil kiln would need to be either a "pet" =3D
project, or a class project. We have space for the kiln, and this area =3D
has access to the gas line used to fire our soda kiln; but this space =3D
would require us to create another pad.=3D20
Is the frame, pyrometer, and burners (with pilot light), worth the =3D
effort to store, clean, rebuild, and hook-up this kiln? We would incur =
=3D
a $90.00 delivery fee.
I appreciate your input.
Linda Lee Kiepke=3D
steve graber on wed 22 sep 10
take the kiln=3D
just like wheels, you can never have too many kilns!=3DA0 =3D0A=3D0Atake th=
e kiln=3D
, refurbish as you like, and enjoy it!=3DA0 a donated kiln plus=3DA0any =3D=
0Arefu=3D
rbish costs=3DA0still yields a functioning=3DA0"cheap" kiln to use.=3DA0 =
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=3D0Acertainly you can always resell it as well.=3DA0 =3D0A=3DA0Steve Grabe=
r, Grabe=3D
r's Pottery, Inc=3D0AClaremont, California USA=3D0AThe Steve Tool - for awe=
some=3D
texture on pots! =3D0Awww.graberspottery.com steve@graberspottery.com =3D0=
A=3D0A=3D
=3D0AOn Laguna Clay's website=3D0Ahttp://www.lagunaclay.com/blogs/ =3D0A=3D=
0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D
=3D0A________________________________=3D0AFrom: Linda Kiepke WWAY=3D
.COM>=3D0ATo: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=3D0ASent: Tue, September 21, 2010 2:=
31:3=3D
7 PM=3D0ASubject: Geil Kiln donation=3D0A=3D0AHello All - =3D0A=3D0AI am se=
eking advi=3D
ce regarding a kiln offered to our non-profit studio as a =3D0Adonation.=3D=
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he kiln is an older (from the 80's?) 12 cubic foot Geil fiber kiln.=3DA0 =
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agreed =3D0Ato remove and properly dispose of the walls.=3DA0 He suggests t=
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iber is still =3D0Afine.=3DA0 I am suspect.=3DA0 I believe the fiber would =
be str=3D
ipped if I request. =3D0A=3D0A=3D0AWe are 40 Resident Artists operating in =
a shar=3D
ed space by volunteer power. We =3D0Acontract with some of our members to t=
ea=3D
ch classes open to the public.=3DA0 This is =3D0Anot a matter of not having=
eno=3D
ugh kilns.=3DA0 Our artists have access to (an ancient =3D0Ayet working wel=
l) A=3D
lipine kiln, a nicely built new downdraft soda kiln, and =3D0Athree electri=
c =3D
kilns.=3DA0 =3DA0 The cleaning and rebuilding of this Geil kiln would =3D0A=
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n; but =3D0Athis space would require us to create another pad. =3D0A=3D0A=
=3D0AIs th=3D
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store, clean, rebuild, and hook-up this kiln?=3DA0 We would=3DA0 incur a $9=
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delivery =3D0Afee.=3D0A=3D0AI appreciate your input.=3D0A=3D0ALinda Lee Ki=
epke=3D0A=3D0A=3D
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William & Susan Schran User on wed 22 sep 10
On 9/21/10 5:31 PM, "Linda Kiepke" wrote:
> I am seeking advice regarding a kiln offered to our non-profit studio as =
a
> donation. The kiln is an older (from the 80's?) 12 cubic foot Geil fiber
> kiln. We were informed the fiber walls contain asbestos. The current ow=
ner
> has agreed to remove and properly dispose of the walls. He suggests the =
fiber
> is still fine. I am suspect. I believe the fiber would be stripped if I
> request.
I wouldn't think the fiber contained asbestos, but if concerned call Paul
Geil at Geil Kilns: (800) 887-4345
Bill
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
Joseph Herbert on sat 25 sep 10
"Linda Kiepke" wrote about a kiln donation
From the 80's it seems really unlikely that the kiln would contain asbestos=
.
Seems like that material was being phased out before then.
If you have doubts, I took a brief glance at the two versions of this kiln
offered by Geil. One fiberlined, one IFB lined. The dimensions are very
close, within an inch. If you are really concerned, you could have the
fiber stripped and re-do the interior with IFB.
As others have suggested, you could contact Geil and see if they ever used
asbestos. I am thinking they did not.
Easiest of all would be to leave the fiber in, spray with the appropriate
ITC product and start firing.
Joe
Joseph Herbert
Training Developer
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