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## dust factor, re: update, re: millions of hand-crafted porcelai=

### Philip Poburka on wed 20 oct 10

n Sunflower Seeds At the Tate Modern

Hi Birgit, all,=3D20

A few thousand people, supposedly, meaning, what, 2,500 - 3,000 people =3D
tops? ( one day of invited guests, one day of press...one day of the =3D
public ) people, taking at most, an average of 40 steps onto the =3D
'Seeds'?=3D20

At most,. then, there would have been 120,000 steps taken, into =3D
10,000,000 'Seeds'.

Each 'Seed' moves down and or to the side somewhat, when stepped on in =3D
the depth of their thickness on the Floor, then stabilizes with no =3D
further movement for the moment, so this relieves most of whatever =3D
pressure the steps were imparting...and or also distributes it to quite =3D
a few hundred 'Seeds' also.

Average pressure of a human Shoe Sole when walking, likely about 3 lbs =3D
per sq inch...each 'Seed' is what, like about 1/8th of a square inch in =3D
largest section? And a forth of that, in the long axis section?

Almost everyone anymore wears soft Rubber Sole Shoes anyway...but =3D
regardless...

If 2,500 - 3,000 people, took fourty steps each onto the Seeds, =3D
10,000,000 'Seeds' ,120,000 steps at most, imparting roughly a few =3D
Ounces of transient sliding then static pressure to each 'Seed' beneath =3D
their Shoe when walking or standing, all tolled, only very few ( what, =3D
like one in nine to ten thousand, roughly? ) 'Seeds ever experienced any =
=3D
slight displacing pressure at all, and very little of it, at that.

The supposed or alleged 'dust' is not from the 'Seeds'.

I lost the Post where it was mentioned, but, someone who had been to the =
=3D
Tate prior to this, mentioned it was very 'dusty' then, long before any =3D
'Seed' exhibition.

Even 'dust' from the people's clothing and shoes, body-dander or =3D
whatever else, could not, in that large a space, in that short a time, =3D
have amounted to anything.

So, the story definitely seems concocted, fake, and a ruse of some sort =3D
to me anyway.

Love,

Phil
Lv
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: Birgit Wright=3D20

Hi All; I have not heard any more about the Dust situation at the =3D
museum, and the problem may well be porcelain grinding together. But =3D
after a lifetime of housework, Kids, workplace or at home, If you have =3D
thousands of people wading through these seeds there will be a shower of =
=3D
pedestrian Dust falling to the ground and drifting through the air from =3D
the mundane sources that dust accumulates anywhere.
I just don't think that vacumning the seed display crossed anyones =3D
mind. Apart from the ceramic specific dust, ordinary dust is an =3D
allergen for many. Just my thoughts as to why this has occurred. =3D
Birgit Wright

### Randall Moody on thu 21 oct 10

n Sunflower Seeds At the Tate Modern

Was the amount of dust present before the installation? It is true that ver=
y
building is a little bit dusty but it is obvious that the amount of dust
became an issue only after the exhibit was placed. It doesn't matter the
mechanism that caused the dust. Now the issue is what is in the dust cause=
d
by the seeds and what are the possible health effects of that dust. China
isn't known for a great health and safety record.

From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Philip Poburka
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:23 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Dust factor, RE: Update, RE: Millions of Hand-crafted Porcelai=
n
Sunflower Seeds At the Tate Modern

Hi Birgit, all,

A few thousand people, supposedly, meaning, what, 2,500 - 3,000 people tops=
?
( one day of invited guests, one day of press...one day of the public )
people, taking at most, an average of 40 steps onto the 'Seeds'?

At most,. then, there would have been 120,000 steps taken, into 10,000,000
'Seeds'.

Each 'Seed' moves down and or to the side somewhat, when stepped on in the
depth of their thickness on the Floor, then stabilizes with no further
movement for the moment, so this relieves most of whatever pressure the
steps were imparting...and or also distributes it to quite a few hundred
'Seeds' also.

Average pressure of a human Shoe Sole when walking, likely about 3 lbs per
sq inch...each 'Seed' is what, like about 1/8th of a square inch in largest
section? And a forth of that, in the long axis section?

Almost everyone anymore wears soft Rubber Sole Shoes anyway...but
regardless...

If 2,500 - 3,000 people, took fourty steps each onto the Seeds, 10,000,000
'Seeds' ,120,000 steps at most, imparting roughly a few Ounces of transient
sliding then static pressure to each 'Seed' beneath their Shoe when walking
or standing, all tolled, only very few ( what, like one in nine to ten
thousand, roughly? ) 'Seeds ever experienced any slight displacing pressure
at all, and very little of it, at that.

The supposed or alleged 'dust' is not from the 'Seeds'.

I lost the Post where it was mentioned, but, someone who had been to the
Tate prior to this, mentioned it was very 'dusty' then, long before any
'Seed' exhibition.

Even 'dust' from the people's clothing and shoes, body-dander or whatever
else, could not, in that large a space, in that short a time, have amounted
to anything.

So, the story definitely seems concocted, fake, and a ruse of some sort to
me anyway.

Love,

Phil
Lv
----- Original Message -----
From: Birgit Wright

Hi All; I have not heard any more about the Dust situation at the museum=
,
and the problem may well be porcelain grinding together. But after a
lifetime of housework, Kids, workplace or at home, If you have thousands o=
f
people wading through these seeds there will be a shower of pedestrian Dust
falling to the ground and drifting through the air from the mundane sources
that dust accumulates anywhere.
I just don't think that vacumning the seed display crossed anyones mind.
Apart from the ceramic specific dust, ordinary dust is an allergen for many=
.
Just my thoughts as to why this has occurred. Birgit Wright

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