Jeff Longtin on mon 29 nov 10
Mel,
I think you've actually identified the problem.
I don't see too many self supporting potters in the Minneapolis/St Paul
area. Maybe if WE took more accounting classes we would find greater succe=
ss?
Jeff Longtin
Not far from Minnetonka MN
In a message dated 11/29/2010 9:09:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
melpots2@VISI.COM writes:
here is a quote from kevin caufield.
`how often do you find potters taking classes at night in accounting?`
lots of accounting types taking classes at night in ceramics.
hmmmm.
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mel jacobson on mon 29 nov 10
here is a quote from kevin caufield.
`how often do you find potters taking classes at night in accounting?`
lots of accounting types taking classes at night in ceramics.
hmmmm.
from: minnetonka, mn
website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
new book: http://www.21stcenturykilns.com
alternate: melpots7575@gmail.com
Snail Scott on tue 30 nov 10
On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:48 AM, David Hendley wrote:
> 'When bankers get together socially, they talk about art.
> When artists get together, they talk about money.'
> --unknown
That was Oscar Wilde.
-Snail
John Rodgers on tue 30 nov 10
Good questions.
In my life, I have been the person responsible for the accounting for
several companies. Not that I'm a trained accountant - but over time I
became a very sophisticated bookkeeper. And my backup was/is my son, a
trained financial manager with a masters in the subject - and a
financial councilor for one for the major investment banks in the
country. You bet'cha potters could benefit immensely from some
bookkeeping/accounting training. A worthy investment of time.
I have taken to running a break-even analysis on my work at different
times - depending on what it is I'm doing. I have to know how many of
something I have to make - and sell - to break even and then start
making money. To many potters don't do this. The result - thew question
gets repeated over and over - 'What should I charge?" You have to know
the numbers to answer the question, and to get the numbers, you have to
run a break-even on the work. Once there is considerable experience with
a project/product one can somewhat play by ear- so to speak. But until
then, the numbers talk. A good break-even analysis plays right into the
accounting routine.
John
John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com
On 11/29/2010 9:07 PM, mel jacobson wrote:
> here is a quote from kevin caufield.
>
> `how often do you find potters taking classes at night in accounting?`
>
> lots of accounting types taking classes at night in ceramics.
> hmmmm.
> from: minnetonka, mn
> website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
> clayart link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
> new book: http://www.21stcenturykilns.com
> alternate: melpots7575@gmail.com
>
>
David Hendley on tue 30 nov 10
Here's my favorite 'art verses business' quote:
'When bankers get together socially, they talk about art.
When artists get together, they talk about money.'
--unknown
Potters may not be taking accounting classes at night, but
they would be well-served to know accounting, learned
on their own or in formal classes. I took two semesters
in college and the knowledge has served me well.
My second-favorite 'art verses business' quote:
'Work hard in college, don't take a chance.
Concentrate your studies on accounting and finance.
Artistic endeavors are all well and good,
but they won't provide you with shelter and food.'
--David Hendley, The Potter's Tango
David Hendley
david@farmpots.com
http://www.farmpots.com
http://www.thewahooligans.com
----- Original Message -----
> here is a quote from kevin caufield.
>
> `how often do you find potters taking classes at night in accounting?`
>
> lots of accounting types taking classes at night in ceramics.
> hmmmm.
Evonne Smulders on tue 30 nov 10
> 'When bankers get together socially, they talk about art.
> When artists get together, they talk about money.'
I love that quote. It's from Art and Fear isn't it?
Evonne Smulders
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On 30-Nov-10, at 9:48 AM, David Hendley wrote:
> Here's my favorite 'art verses business' quote:
> 'When bankers get together socially, they talk about art.
> When artists get together, they talk about money.'
> --unknown
>
> Potters may not be taking accounting classes at night, but
> they would be well-served to know accounting, learned
> on their own or in formal classes. I took two semesters
> in college and the knowledge has served me well.
>
> My second-favorite 'art verses business' quote:
> 'Work hard in college, don't take a chance.
> Concentrate your studies on accounting and finance.
> Artistic endeavors are all well and good,
> but they won't provide you with shelter and food.'
> --David Hendley, The Potter's Tango
>
> David Hendley
> david@farmpots.com
> http://www.farmpots.com
> http://www.thewahooligans.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> here is a quote from kevin caufield.
>>
>> `how often do you find potters taking classes at night in
>> accounting?`
>>
>> lots of accounting types taking classes at night in ceramics.
>> hmmmm.
Lee Love on wed 1 dec 10
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, David Hendley wrote:
> Here's my favorite 'art verses business' quote:
> 'When bankers get together socially, they talk about art.
> When artists get together, they talk about money.'
> --unknown
Potters come to the craft from so many different directions. I
just come back from two days in New London, working/firing at Craig
Edward's studio. While Craig has a good business sense that I
admire, I don't recall speaking about money. Mostly we talked
about pots, but we also discussed the "banned topics" of religion,
politics, health care, and "What was your draft status during
Vietnam?".
=3DE2=3D80=3D8E"Consumerism is the worship of the god of quantity; adverti=
sing i=3D
s
its liturgy. Advertising is schooling in false longing." -- John
O'Donohue (Eternal Echoes: Celtic Reflections on Our Yearning to
Belong)
--
=3DC2=3DA0Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DE2=3D80=3D9CObserve the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim th=
em. Fe=3D
el
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D --Rumi
John Britt on wed 1 dec 10
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http://www.cs.uic.edu/~tj/quotes.html#artists
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
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