Barbara Francis on sun 19 dec 10
Dear Clayart Friends,
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I have had a bad week.=3DA0 I am trying to finish up firing all of my stude=
nt=3D
s' work before Christmas and my kiln is not working.=3DA0=3D20
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I have a 7 cubic ft. paragon kiln TNF.=3DA0 I got an error 1 reading during=
a=3D
cone 6 firing.=3DA0 It made it to 1950 degrees before shutting off.=3DA0 I=
had=3D
a kiln repair person come out the next day.=3DA0 He replaced all of the el=
em=3D
ents.=3DA0 The next day I firing to cone 05 and the cone was flattened comp=
le=3D
tely.=3DA0 The repair person came out the following day and replaced the th=
er=3D
mocouple.=3DA0 I was up all night checking on the kiln and after 12 and a h=
al=3D
f hours the witness cone melted (cone6) and I shut off the kiln manually.=
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=3DA0 The temperature reading was 2010 degrees.=3DA0=3D20
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After spending nearly $700 on kiln repair, I have an over-firing, slow cook=
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ing kiln.=3DA0 Any ideas?
=3DA0
Thank you so much for your help.=3DA0 I can send more kiln info if needed.=
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Barb Francis=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A
John Rodgers on sun 19 dec 10
Call Arnold Howard at Paragon in Texas on Monday and talk with him. He
will get this straightened out.
John
John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com
On 12/19/2010 9:17 AM, Barbara Francis wrote:
> Dear Clayart Friends,
>
> I have had a bad week. I am trying to finish up firing all of my student=
s' work before Christmas and my kiln is not working.
>
> I have a 7 cubic ft. paragon kiln TNF. I got an error 1 reading during a=
cone 6 firing. It made it to 1950 degrees before shutting off. I had a k=
iln repair person come out the next day. He replaced all of the elements. =
The next day I firing to cone 05 and the cone was flattened completely. T=
he repair person came out the following day and replaced the thermocouple. =
I was up all night checking on the kiln and after 12 and a half hours the =
witness cone melted (cone6) and I shut off the kiln manually. The temperat=
ure reading was 2010 degrees.
>
> After spending nearly $700 on kiln repair, I have an over-firing, slow co=
oking kiln. Any ideas?
>
> Thank you so much for your help. I can send more kiln info if needed.
>
> Barb Francis
>
>
>
>
>
David Woof on sun 19 dec 10
Hi Barbara=3D2C I'm sending this to you off list as well. Fire manuall=
y =3D
for now. I know it is tedious baby sitting but Christmas is soon!!!
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You did not mention if your service guy checked for malfunction of the com=
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puter itself. =3D20
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Stay tuned. I'm sure the good folks of Clayart are already sending you the =
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info you need so I won't ...... The calvary rides!!!
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I have questions in my mind about the service you are getting from the kiln=
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repair person. Some folks are just parts replacers. Some are hacks. Re=
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placing elements made a good day for him. Did he first run a diagnostic o=
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n the components of the whole system? Did he test the elements before he y=
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anked them out? Do you still have the old ones? Why did he need to com=
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e back another time to replace the thermocouple? That should have been addr=
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essed at the first!!!
Educate and inform yourself. Even if you always rely on a Tech to do the w=
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ork it is wise to know and not have to take anyone's word for it.
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Whether it is kilns or plumbing the basic concepts are not complicated to u=
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nderstand=3D2C a bit morsi to actually do the work but certainly not outsid=
e =3D
your scope.
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David Woof
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Kiln Problems!
Posted by: "Barbara Francis" barbspots@YAHOO.COM=3D20
Date: Sun Dec 19=3D2C 2010 11:30 am ((PST))
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Dear Clayart Friends=3D2C
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I have had a bad week. I am trying to finish up firing all of my students'=
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work before Christmas and my kiln is not working. =3D20
=3D20
I have a 7 cubic ft. paragon kiln TNF. I got an error 1 reading during a c=
=3D
one 6 firing. It made it to 1950 degrees before shutting off. I had a kil=
=3D
n repair person come out the next day. He replaced all of the elements. T=
=3D
he next day I firing to cone 05 and the cone was flattened completely. The=
=3D
repair person came out the following day and replaced the thermocouple. I=
=3D
was up all night checking on the kiln and after 12 and a half hours the wi=
=3D
tness cone melted (cone6) and I shut off the kiln manually. The temperatur=
=3D
e reading was 2010 degrees. =3D20
=3D20
After spending nearly $700 on kiln repair=3D2C I have an over-firing=3D2C s=
low =3D
cooking kiln. Any ideas?
=3D20
Thank you so much for your help. I can send more kiln info if needed. =3D2=
0
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Barb Francis
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Steve Slatin on mon 20 dec 10
Barbara --
First, don't get upset. Odds are the problem is simple
and readily cured.
Second, fire with cones for any last firing you need
for the year. Don't trust the computer to turn off the
kiln while the cone slumps beyond where it should be --
position it right near a peep with a clear shot across
the kiln to an element, and when you're getting close
check every 10 minutes to see movement as it starts to
bend -- turn off the kiln (or fire down) at the 'perfect'
point.
Third, contact your manufacturer -- the problem you
have is that the controller is reading a new thermocouple,
and it's not reading identically to your old thermocouple.
(This is rather common, I find.) In your case, it's=3D20
'reporting' a lower temperature than you have inside the
kiln. The solution is to reset the offset on some=3D20
controllers (I am not conversant with all controllers).
It may take two firings to get the controller back
within range, but from that point on it's smooth sailing
(in my experience) for a few hundred firings.
Best wishes -- and make sure you get enough sleep.
Steve Slatin --=3D20
--- On Sun, 12/19/10, Barbara Francis wrote:
> From: Barbara Francis
> Subject: Kiln Problems!
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 7:17 AM
> Dear Clayart Friends,
> =3DA0
> I have had a bad week.=3DA0 I am trying to finish up firing
> all of my students' work before Christmas and my kiln is not
> working.=3DA0=3D20
> =3DA0
> I have a 7 cubic ft. paragon kiln TNF.=3DA0 I got an error 1
> reading during a cone 6 firing.=3DA0 It made it to 1950 degrees
> before shutting off.=3DA0 I had a kiln repair person come out
> the next day.=3DA0 He replaced all of the elements.=3DA0 The next
> day I firing to cone 05 and the cone was flattened
> completely.=3DA0 The repair person came out the following day
> and replaced the thermocouple.=3DA0 I was up all night checking
> on the kiln and after 12 and a half hours the witness cone
> melted (cone6) and I shut off the kiln manually.=3DA0 The
> temperature reading was 2010 degrees.=3DA0=3D20
> =3DA0
> After spending nearly $700 on kiln repair, I have an
> over-firing, slow cooking kiln.=3DA0 Any ideas?
> =3DA0
> Thank you so much for your help.=3DA0 I can send more kiln
> info if needed.=3DA0=3D20
> =3DA0
> Barb Francis
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> =3D0A=3D0A=3D0A
Arnold Howard on mon 20 dec 10
On 12/19/2010 9:17 AM, Barbara Francis wrote:
I was up all night checking on the kiln and after 12 and a half hours
the witness cone melted (cone6) and I shut off the kiln manually. The
temperature reading was 2010 degrees.
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Barbara, is your new thermocouple a Type-K or Type-S? (Your Barlett
controller does not accept the Type-S.)
How far does the thermocouple extend into the firing chamber?
What color is the wire that connects the thermocouple to the controller?
Is the temperature display erratic or steady?
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
William Paxton on mon 20 dec 10
Calvary is associated with the crucifiction of Jesus and the cavalry come=
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to=3D20
save the day.
Carl Finch on mon 20 dec 10
At 07:17 AM 12/20/2010, William Paxton wrote:
>Calvary is associated with the crucifiction of Jesus and the cavalry come =
to
>save the day.
By which, I take it, that you're not a believer and that the event is
a "fiction!"
Confusing Calvary and cavalry is a fairly common mistake. But your
spelling of crucifixion is a new one to me!
--Carl
William Paxton on tue 21 dec 10
sorry for the misspell, the comment was aimed at Mr. Woof's questioning o=
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f=3D20
Lilli's writing prowess not at the belief.
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