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dremel tool - which one to buy

updated fri 24 dec 10

 

ivor and olive lewis on tue 21 dec 10


Dear May Luk,



Get one that is driven directlly from mains electricity. Anything that is
powered by a battery is energy inefficient. Even "plug in" mains converters
waste energy as heat.

Compliments of the Season .

Ivor Lewis,
REDHILL,
South Australia

Philip Poburka on tue 21 dec 10


Well, of course, a 'Dremel' is a sort of Home or Hobby grade light use,
smallest size order of Die Grinder,
or, a small Universal High Speed Rotary Tool I suppose, and, anymore, seems
a pretty cheezy
affair.

The old 'Dremel' Tools were ever so much more sensibly built, down right
elegant even, sensibly designed, and sensible looking.

While everyone knows of 'Dremel', it is not something which exists in
isolation, but it is a member of a large family of kindred Appliances.


All of which are of a family of High Speed Rotary Tool Bit Holding
appliances, whether 90 degree kinds or in-line, and are
High Speed Rotary Tools having a Collet on one end, for use with a variety
of Tooling
Bits and tasks.

These, in their gamut of kinds and Makes, are Electric, or Pneumatic.


Any sort of older Commercial Grade or Industrial Grade Die Grinders of
either propulsion, in a 1/4 Inch Collet, would be enormously better and
vastly more durable, and immensely stronger, and greatly more powerful, (
sorry, some hyperbole there maybe, )
than a 'Dremel'.


1/8th Inch Collet, 1/4 Inch Collet, 3/8ths Inch Collet - tend of course to
suggest also, the proportionate increase in size, which the actual Die
Grinders or
their kin tend to be, for accommodating the loadings anticipated for those
diameter shank Tooling Bits being used.


Even the little Hobby Grade Sears and Roebuck or Montgomery Ward and other
1/8th inch Die Grinders up into the 1960s were usually very well made and
durable, and in various forms or stylistic liberties, have been around
since the 1920s.


"Foredom" as others have mentioned, is about as fine an outfit as anyone
could hope for in an 1/8th Inch Collet, for doing small or especially
delicate or tedious things.

Unlike most other outfits, the 'Foredom usually is used with a flexible
Shaft running in a Sheath, with the Tool Bit Collet and an in-line Handle o=
n
the end of that Shaft Housing, and the Motor hangs on a Stand or on the
Wall, allowing more freedom in use than those having the Collet on the end
of the Armeture Shaft proper where you are obliged usually, to have to hold
the Motor
Housing in using it for Free Hand Work.


Compressed Air driven versions tend to require a lot of Air...which of
course requires a fairly healthy Air Compressor outfit.

Serious Commercial or Industrial Die Grinders which are Electric, when from
the U.S., of course tended to be 110 Volt, and, merely plug into any handy
outlet.


Always take frequent breaks when using any Hand-Held Rotary Tools.


Their vibration, while not necessarily bothersome in use, none the less can
cause the Blood Corpuscles to sort of stall or go backward even, in one's
smaller Capillaries in the Hand, which can occasion Oxygen starvation of
Nerves, and Nerve injury form that.

Not so good...

So, take frequent breaks often when using any sort of Hand Tool which is
driven at high RPMs.



Love,


Phil
Lv

Lee Love on tue 21 dec 10


On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Philip Poburka wrote:

> The old 'Dremel' Tools were ever so much more sensibly built, down right
> elegant even, sensibly designed, and sensible looking.

I have an old one I bought used 20 years ago. But it really isn't
ideal for grinding bottoms. You want something that covers a bigger
surface so you get flat, even grinds.


--
=3DA0Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

=3D93Observe the wonders as they occur around you. Don't claim them. Feel
the artistry moving through and be silent.=3D94 --Rumi

Eleanora Eden on tue 21 dec 10


Couldn't figure out why people are having so much trouble with a tool I hav=
e
found so sturdy. This is why. I have had mine for a very long time.

Next time I am at Home Depot I will cruise by and look at the new ones.

Eleanora

>
>
>> The old 'Dremel' Tools were ever so much more sensibly built, down right
>> elegant even, sensibly designed, and sensible looking.
>
> I have an old one I bought used 20 years ago. But it really isn't
>ideal for grinding bottoms. You want something that covers a bigger
>surface so you get flat, even grinds.

--
Bellows Falls Vermont
www.eleanoraeden.com

James Freeman on tue 21 dec 10


My Dremel tool is about 5 years old, made in USA, and very solid and
robust. They now seem to be made in Mexico. Not sure when they moved
the manufacturing offshore, and not sure if all of the models are now
made there, but it may have something to do with the perceived decline
in quality.

Proxxon makes a VERY high quality Dremel-type tool, though it will
cost you about twice what the Dremel sells for. It is a Luxembourg
company and their products, made in Luxembourg, are a bit tougher to
find, though Amazon sells them
(http://www.amazon.com/Proxxon-38481-Professional-Rotary-Tool/dp/B001FWXEO6=
=3D
).
(Wayne, this might be another option for you if you don't want
something as heavy as the DeWalt die grinders)

All the best.

...James

James Freeman

"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness,
too preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."

"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice.=3DA0 I
should not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne

http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources




On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Eleanora Eden wrote=
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:
> Couldn't figure out why people are having so much trouble with a tool I h=
=3D
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> found so sturdy. =3DA0This is why. =3DA0I have had mine for a very long t=
ime.
>
> Next time I am at Home Depot I will cruise by and look at the new ones.
>
> Eleanora
>
>>
>>
>>> The old 'Dremel' Tools were ever so much more sensibly built, down righ=
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>>> elegant even, sensibly designed, and sensible looking.
>>
>> =3DA0 I have an old one I bought used 20 years ago. =3DA0 But it really =
isn'=3D
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>>ideal for grinding bottoms. =3DA0You want something that covers a bigger
>>surface so you get flat, even grinds.
>
> --
> Bellows Falls Vermont
> www.eleanoraeden.com
>

Philip Poburka on thu 23 dec 10


Hi Lee, all...



I meant, like this -


http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-DREMEL-NUMBER-2-MOTO-TOOL-30S-WORKS-/1106263356=
18?pt=3DLH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=3Ditem19c1d7eb82


Or this -


http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Dremel-Model-No-2-/120651328893?pt=3DLH_Default=
Domain_0&hash=3Ditem1c17612d7d


Cylindrical body, no weird stylistic departures from engineering
simplicity/clean-ness.

Like a 'Tube' in shape...an Armature in-a-Housing, a small High Speed
Spindle, with a Collet on one end, and nothing to mystify what it is, or
what it does.


I went and looked at images of the newer 'Dremels', which I knew had change=
d
a lot...and, also, the 'Foredom'. And I see the latter have changed
startlingly from their accustomed form/shape/style I was used to, also.


Oye...


I hate it when silly, grotesques of sheer stylistic superficiality, which
have nothing whatever to do in any way with the device's function or sense=
,
displace what had been honest, 'good', form.



...sigh...



Phil
Lv


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Love"


On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Philip Poburka wrote:

> The old 'Dremel' Tools were ever so much more sensibly built, down right
> elegant even, sensibly designed, and sensible looking.

I have an old one I bought used 20 years ago. But it really isn't
ideal for grinding bottoms. You want something that covers a bigger
surface so you get flat, even grinds.


--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis