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Dinah Snipes Steveni on tue 4 jan 11


"or GoDaddy if you don't have an issue with their politics or advertising."=
Sullied by innuendo here, I think. Wassup, Amanda?

I'm a GoDaddy client and there's no advertising on my website; on theirs, y=
es, but it's their dime. GoDaddy group is helpful, courteous, prompt. Good =
value for money. Is GoDaddy the cyber insider's equivalent of "blood diamon=
ds"? I've got some very green acquaintances, who get exercised about the hu=
ge storage facilities and all the energy used to power the back-up faciliti=
es for websites etc. In the same sentence they also moan about those unnece=
ssary clocks embedded in stoves, and microwaves. What's a girl to think?

Dinah
http://www.dinahsnipessteveni.com
jd.steveni@comcast.net
Plein Air Washington
FB Dianthus Visual Arts Page

David Martin Hershey on wed 5 jan 11


Hi John et All,

When the same thing happened to me years ago,
I looked into it. It's a common scam.
All run by software on the scammers site.

I can't remember the details,
but the gist of the story is that the scammer domain registrar
(Godaddy in this case) captures all available names
searched for on their site, that aren't paid for immediately.

They pay a minuscule wholesale price for any domain they
register with ICANN, so they're speculating in domain names.
Also, they don't have to pay any money other than a tiny deposit
for I believe two months after reserving a name for registration.

First they try to sell back to the "client" the name he thought up,
at an exorbitant price. Then when the 2 month period is almost up,
bots examine the domain name, and decide if it has potential
to be re-sold in the auction market.

At that point they might let the reservation drop, or try to auction
the name off. If they drop it, they get their deposit back.
Otherwise they register the name at wholesale prices, and try to
sell it at auction.

With the supply of good domain names running out,
some domains sell for tens of thousands of dollars.
A few for much more. The average auction domain name
sells for between $50 and $1,500 US dollars.

GD is now the largest domain registrar in the US.
You can see how unethically extracting
an extra $50 to $500 from the unsuspecting,
(who really want that name JohnRogersPottery.com)
would add tremendously to their bottom line.

These are not nice people.

If anyone wants to safely check a domain names availability,
my friend Jack Bryant at BeachCitiesPC.com, runs a clean
& free availability checker here:
http://www.securedbeach.com/billing/domainchecker.php

Best, DMH

David Martin Hershey
DMH Studio + Design
2629 Manhattan Ave #137
Hermosa Beach CA USA
90254-2447 424.241.3809
http://www.dmhstudio.com/
http://www.obamacardgold.com
http://www.winetastingtrolley.com/


On 1/5/2011 10:02 AM, John Rodgers wrote:
> My very, very first experience with Godaddy sent me down the wrong
> track with them. . .
>
> Maybe someone can explain how this works and what is happening here.
>

Amanda on wed 5 jan 11


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Wendy Peck on wed 5 jan 11


To add another professional opinion to the mix: I have made my entire livin=
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from Web development since 1997, and have written several books on the
subject for major publishers.

This is a huge company, so of course, some people have had trouble with
GoDaddy, but in the six (at least) years I have worked with them for both
hosting and domain services, I have not had one minute of trouble, and the
customer service has been exceptional. I have searched for countless names
and never lost one, even coming back for it weeks later. I have recommended
the service often to friends, baby-beginners in this world, and they have
had no problems.

Web hosts and domain registrars in general can be beasts to deal with.
Occassionally, I have set people up with different providers, and I have
some nightmare stories to tell about that. I also remember when hosting cos=
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serious dollars, and there was no hope of ever getting help from anyone. My
first domain names were registered through Network Solutions when they had =
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monopoly, and bear the scars of wrestling names away from them.

I have no doubt that some people have had problems with GoDaddy. I know man=
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people have used them for years and have nothing but glowing reviews.
GoDaddy is nothing to me other than a service I have happily used, and will
continue to do so until I have reason to leave. I have some credibility in
this field and felt that, in fairness, the other side of this story should
be heard.

Wendy

John Rodgers on wed 5 jan 11


My very, very first experience with Godaddy sent me down the wrong
track with them. I was checking availability of domain names, entered my
prospective name, found it was available, but not being quite ready to
go through the process, left the site for a short time while sorting out
a few things, and then when I went back to GoDaddy an hour later to
finish the process, found the name was no longer freely available, but
if I wished, I could "buy" the name for a price. That really ticked me
off! I felt I had been ripped off and that GoDaddy was using the
innovative-ness of the public to generate and collect names from the
unaware - then trying to sell them.

I have never again tested to see if a domain name was available with
anyone, unless I was ready to go completely through the leasing process
at the get-go. I just don't trust.

Maybe someone can explain how this works and what is happening here.

John

John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com


On 1/5/2011 6:52 AM, Amanda wrote:
> GoDaddy practices very poor customer relations, IN MY OPINION. They make=
it
> very difficult to buy domain names, sending you through a ping pong game =
of
> add ons. They prey on the inexperience of most users by claiming you need
> things you don't. They have a very poor control panel that makes it confu=
sing
> and difficult to accomplish what you'd like, meaning that almost everythi=
ng
> requires a call to customer service. Now, they do infact have 24/7 availa=
ble
> customer service, but the answer you'll get varies greatly on who you spe=
ak
> to, and I'd prefer to not call at all. They send emails claiming you nee=
d
> services most people don't. Their webhosting gets hacked all the time and=
has
> a number of vulnerabilities, but is popular due to price.
>
> I'm in marketing and 34, so its rare that sexy advertising bothers me, bu=
t
> GoDaddy's bothers me, particularly so during the last few superbowls. Aga=
in-
> that's just my opinion.
>
> GoDaddy also has a long history of screwing over organizations. I do not =
work
> with them anymore on events for that reason.
>
> But the politics, etc aside, you'll never find a developer who will sugge=
st
> working with GoDaddy. We know what they're like and that if you're happy =
with
> their service its likely because they've oversold you on what you really =
need.
>
> So, again. This is all MY opinion. There is no need to argue with it. Its=
a
> qualified opinion, but its mine. If you're having a good experience with =
them,
> fabulous, I hope you continue to do so.
>
>

Jennifer Boyer on thu 6 jan 11


I have to underscore Wendy's message: I do web design part time and have
over a dozen hosting accounts and over 50 domains with Godaddy. Yeah the
website is clunky and confusing, but all you have to do is look past all th=
e
extraneous stuff and click their "no thanks" button. They are cheap and the
tech support is wonderful. All this web stuff is complicated. It just is.
Stuff happens, but I don't think Godaddy is any worse than the other choice=
s
out there.

As to their "sexism" issues, the 2 women who probably are happy getting pai=
d
for the use of their pix on the home page are Annika, a (rare) female race
car driver and Jillian, a gay TV celebrity. I don't see a problem with that=
!

Godaddy has come through for me time and again and I appreciate that they
have their headquarters and tech support in Phoenix AZ, not Bengalore,
India!

I'm going to look into the issue of domains being bought up after someone
checks availability. It's never happened to me, but that sounds fishy.
Jennifer

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Wendy Peck wrote:

>
>
> This is a huge company, so of course, some people have had trouble with
> GoDaddy, but in the six (at least) years I have worked with them for both
> hosting and domain services, I have not had one minute of trouble, and th=
e
> customer service has been exceptional.