Rimas VisGirda on mon 17 jan 11
Phil, you wrote:
"As for me, when participating in an 'nceca', I buy ( well, I buy the use o=
f a 'Booth' of course, for a few daze, but...)
Quite a bit of Food and various Drinks...lots of Coffee, which is of course=
both a Food, and a Drink, in one!
Maybe eight or ten packs of Cigarettes..."
Wow, that's a LOT of cigarettes! You're talking 2+ packs a day? I recently =
quit smoking. Smoking since I was 9, about a pack a day since college... Qu=
it for a year in college. Quit again 9 years ago when my 1st son was born. =
Restarted again in 2006 in a weak moment at an Eastern Europe symposium... =
Have been sneaking them (from my boys) in the studio for the last 4 years. =
My wife would join me occasionally when she felt stressed over something...=
The older boy almost caught me a couple of weeks ago so I got to thinking,=
not always a good idea in my case... I've always disliked the expense, I d=
id about a pack a day and in IL that's about $5/day or $150/month, but hey,=
that's the price we sometimes need to pay for our guilty pleasures... So b=
etween Xmas and New Years, while enjoying a smoke in the studio, I got to t=
hinking that I spent about 10 minutes for each smoke. At a pack a day that'=
s about 200 minutes... HOLY $#!+, that's over 3 hours a day! No
wonder I felt like I never had enough time -or that time was going faster.=
..
So as of New Years I resolved to quit... Went to the studio New Years Eve t=
o have my last... Problem was that New Years Day I realized there was still=
a half a pack left in the studio, hadn't calculated running out of my supp=
ly very well... So went out and had one. That made me feel TERRIBLY guilty,=
so went back later and TORE the half a pack that was left apart. Then spen=
t the next 4 days (until garbage pickup) smoking butts out of the garbage..=
. Been over a week now, and I'm starting to occasionally not miss it, altho=
ugh I dreamt about smoking last night... then the cigarette mention in your=
post...
Took a break and came back to the draft to finish... all of a sudden not su=
re why I'm posting this. Seems like I've heard something like "confession i=
s good for the soul..." I'm NOT against smoking. I DIDN'T MIND being around=
smokers for the 6 years when I wasn't. I AM against Big Brother telling me=
I can't smoke, but it's OK to drink, gamble and gambol... But that's a who=
le other story... I guess I wrote this to fill some of those 3 extra hours =
that I now have free every day...
Regards, -Rimas
John Rodgers on mon 17 jan 11
Holy Smoke!
Oops - poor choice of words!
Rimas, talk about chemical addiction!! I do NOT envy the struggle you=3D2=
0
have . It's a really tough road to travel. Glad to know you are still=3D20
working on it. I agree with you on the limits of Big Brother - but I=3D20
really hate that the smokes manufacturers got a way with - and still do=3D2=
0
so far as I know - chemically treating tobacco to make it even more=3D20
addictive. I don't smoke. Never have. But both of my parents did, and my =
=3D
Dad had emphysema really bad in his old age as a result. I grew up in a=3D2=
0
house where the smoke just floated on the air. Favorite thing was for my =
=3D
folks to blow smoke rings and us kids would put our hands through the=3D20
rings. Who knew back then the damage being done - to my folks or to us=3D20
kids. Prol'ly why I suffered so much respiratory distress growing up -=3D20
and prol'ly why I still have problems that surface occasionally.
I hope you continue your efforts to kick the habit. It's worth it.
John
John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com
On 1/17/2011 2:16 PM, Rimas VisGirda wrote:
> Phil, you wrote:
>
> "As for me, when participating in an 'nceca', I buy ( well, I buy the u=
=3D
se of a 'Booth' of course, for a few daze, but...)
> Quite a bit of Food and various Drinks...lots of Coffee, which is of co=
=3D
urse both a Food, and a Drink, in one!
> Maybe eight or ten packs of Cigarettes..."
>
> Wow, that's a LOT of cigarettes! You're talking 2+ packs a day? I recen=
=3D
tly quit smoking. Smoking since I was 9, about a pack a day since college=
=3D
=3D2E.. Quit for a year in college. Quit again 9 years ago when my 1st son =
=3D
was born. Restarted again in 2006 in a weak moment at an Eastern Europe s=
=3D
ymposium... Have been sneaking them (from my boys) in the studio for the =
=3D
last 4 years. My wife would join me occasionally when she felt stressed o=
=3D
ver something... The older boy almost caught me a couple of weeks ago so =
=3D
I got to thinking, not always a good idea in my case... I've always disli=
=3D
ked the expense, I did about a pack a day and in IL that's about $5/day o=
=3D
r $150/month, but hey, that's the price we sometimes need to pay for our =
=3D
guilty pleasures... So between Xmas and New Years, while enjoying a smoke=
=3D
in the studio, I got to thinking that I spent about 10 minutes for each =
=3D
smoke. At a pack a day that's about 200 minutes... HOLY $#!+, that's over=
=3D
3 hours a day! No
> wonder I felt like I never had enough time -or that time was going fa=
=3D
ster...
>
> So as of New Years I resolved to quit... Went to the studio New Years E=
=3D
ve to have my last... Problem was that New Years Day I realized there was=
=3D
still a half a pack left in the studio, hadn't calculated running out of=
=3D
my supply very well... So went out and had one. That made me feel TERRIB=
=3D
LY guilty, so went back later and TORE the half a pack that was left apar=
=3D
t. Then spent the next 4 days (until garbage pickup) smoking butts out of=
=3D
the garbage... Been over a week now, and I'm starting to occasionally no=
=3D
t miss it, although I dreamt about smoking last night... then the cigaret=
=3D
te mention in your post...
>
> Took a break and came back to the draft to finish... all of a sudden no=
=3D
t sure why I'm posting this. Seems like I've heard something like "confes=
=3D
sion is good for the soul..." I'm NOT against smoking. I DIDN'T MIND bein=
=3D
g around smokers for the 6 years when I wasn't. I AM against Big Brother =
=3D
telling me I can't smoke, but it's OK to drink, gamble and gambol... But =
=3D
that's a whole other story... I guess I wrote this to fill some of those =
=3D
3 extra hours that I now have free every day...
>
> Regards, -Rimas
>
>
Philip Poburka on mon 17 jan 11
Hi Rimas,
Lol...
Below...amid...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rimas VisGirda"
> Phil, you wrote:
>
> "As for me, when participating in an 'nceca', I buy ( well, I buy the use
> of a 'Booth' of course, for a few daze, but...)
> Quite a bit of Food and various Drinks...lots of Coffee, which is of
> course both a Food, and a Drink, in one!
> Maybe eight or ten packs of Cigarettes..."
>
> Wow, that's a LOT of cigarettes! You're talking 2+ packs a day?
Well, as a Commercial exhibitor, I get there a day before the Show opens, t=
o
set up, and, usually, I stay a day or two or three after the Show has
closed.
I actually smoke about 2/3rds of a Pack-a-Day...maybe a little more if
I am nervous or excited or yammering a lot.
What happens when at the 'nceca', is that I would leave my Cigarettes in th=
e
Car, in my Room, or at my Booth, or whatever, so, I learned to make sure to
have redundant packs. Spare pack in my Jacket Pocket...spare Pack in my
Trouser Pocket, spare Pack in-the-Car, etc. Since usually, there is never
anywhere handy to buy
any if I misplace or run out.
Plus, when taking Cigarette Breaks, other people always have run out or lef=
t
their's somewhere else, so I give away quite a few.
And or Street People wandering up to bum-a-Smoke, too...
> I recently quit smoking. Smoking since I was 9, about a pack a day since
> college... Quit for a year in college. Quit again 9 years ago when my 1st
> son was born. Restarted again in 2006 in a weak moment at an Eastern
> Europe symposium... Have been sneaking them (from my boys) in the studio
> for the last 4 years. My wife would join me occasionally when she felt
> stressed over something... The older boy almost caught me a couple of
> weeks ago so I got to thinking, not always a good idea in my case... I've
> always disliked the expense, I did about a pack a day and in IL that's
> about $5/day or $150/month, but hey, that's the price we sometimes need t=
o
> pay for our guilty pleasures... So between Xmas and New Years, while
> enjoying a smoke in the studio, I got to thinking that I spent about 10
> minutes for each smoke. At a pack a day that's about 200 minutes... HOLY
> $#!+, that's over 3 hours a day! No
> wonder I felt like I never had enough time -or that time was going
> faster...
I have always just smoked while I am working, or while I am doing whatever =
I
am doing, so, no time wasted
there...but, at 'nceca' of course, one has to go stand outside somewhere
usually, unlike my Workshop/Home or other Civilized, emotionally mature, an=
d
polite surrounds.
> So as of New Years I resolved to quit... Went to the studio New Years Eve
> to have my last... Problem was that New Years Day I realized there was
> still a half a pack left in the studio, hadn't calculated running out of
> my supply very well... So went out and had one. That made me feel TERRIBL=
Y
> guilty, so went back later and TORE the half a pack that was left apart.
> Then spent the next 4 days (until garbage pickup) smoking butts out of th=
e
> garbage... Been over a week now, and I'm starting to occasionally not mis=
s
> it, although I dreamt about smoking last night... then the cigarette
> mention in your post...
Ohhhhhh...oye...
Sometimes I run out at like 3:00 A.M., and, just do not feel like driving t=
o
7-11...Lol...so yeah, I usually keep an emergency little pack of Rolling
Papers tucked away somewhere, and, just roll up the fragrant, juicy little
Butts to tide me over till morning and
Sunshine and the mood to go to 7-11...
Kinda humerous in it's way...
One reason why a sensible person NEVER cleans out the Ashtrays impetuously.
> Took a break and came back to the draft to finish... all of a sudden not
> sure why I'm posting this. Seems like I've heard something like
> "confession is good for the soul..." I'm NOT against smoking. I DIDN'T
> MIND being around smokers for the 6 years when I wasn't. I AM against Big
> Brother telling me I can't smoke, but it's OK to drink, gamble and
> gambol... But that's a whole other story... I guess I wrote this to fill
> some of those 3 extra hours that I now have free every day...
>
> Regards, -Rimas
'Big Brother' does not speak truthfully, anyway...about anything, ever.
Love,
Phil
Lv
Eric Hansen on tue 18 jan 11
3 ways I can get hooked all over again:
fresh pouch of "Drum" rolling tobacco
a fresh tin of "Black Ambrosia" pipe tobacco
&/or "CAO Cameroon Churchills"
- being around smoking student potters tends to make me want to light up al=
=3D
so -
- h a n s e n -
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Philip Poburka wrote:
> Hi Rimas,
>
>
>
>
> Lol...
>
>
> Below...amid...
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rimas VisGirda"
>
>> Phil, you wrote:
>>
>> "As for me, when participating in an 'nceca', I buy ( well, I buy the us=
=3D
e
>> of a 'Booth' of course, for a few daze, but...)
>> Quite a bit of Food and various Drinks...lots of Coffee, which is of
>> course both a Food, and a Drink, in one!
>> Maybe eight or ten packs of Cigarettes..."
>>
>> Wow, that's a LOT of cigarettes! You're talking 2+ packs a day?
>
>
> Well, as a Commercial exhibitor, I get there a day before the Show opens,=
=3D
to
> set up, and, usually, I stay a day or two or three after the Show has
> closed.
>
> I actually smoke about 2/3rds of a Pack-a-Day...maybe a little more if
> I am nervous or excited or yammering a lot.
>
> What happens when at the 'nceca', is that I would leave my Cigarettes in =
=3D
the
> Car, in my Room, or at my Booth, or whatever, so, I learned to make sure =
=3D
to
> have redundant packs. Spare pack in my Jacket Pocket...spare Pack in my
> Trouser Pocket, spare Pack in-the-Car, etc. Since usually, there is never
> anywhere handy to buy
> any if I misplace or run out.
>
> Plus, when taking Cigarette Breaks, other people always have run out or l=
=3D
eft
> their's somewhere else, so I give away quite a few.
>
> And or Street People wandering up to bum-a-Smoke, too...
>
>
>
>> I recently quit smoking. Smoking since I was 9, about a pack a day since
>> college... Quit for a year in college. Quit again 9 years ago when my 1s=
=3D
t
>> son was born. Restarted again in 2006 in a weak moment at an Eastern
>> Europe symposium... Have been sneaking them (from my boys) in the studio
>> for the last 4 years. My wife would join me occasionally when she felt
>> stressed over something... The older boy almost caught me a couple of
>> weeks ago so I got to thinking, not always a good idea in my case... I'v=
=3D
e
>> always disliked the expense, I did about a pack a day and in IL that's
>> about $5/day or $150/month, but hey, that's the price we sometimes need =
=3D
to
>> pay for our guilty pleasures... So between Xmas and New Years, while
>> enjoying a smoke in the studio, I got to thinking that I spent about 10
>> minutes for each smoke. At a pack a day that's about 200 minutes... HOLY
>> $#!+, that's over 3 hours a day! No
>> wonder I felt like I never had enough time -or that time was going
>> faster...
>
>
>
> I have always just smoked while I am working, or while I am doing whateve=
=3D
r I
> am doing, so, no time wasted
> there...but, at 'nceca' of course, one has to go stand outside somewhere
> usually, unlike my Workshop/Home or other Civilized, emotionally mature, =
=3D
and
> polite surrounds.
>
>
>
>
>> So as of New Years I resolved to quit... Went to the studio New Years Ev=
=3D
e
>> to have my last... Problem was that New Years Day I realized there was
>> still a half a pack left in the studio, hadn't calculated running out of
>> my supply very well... So went out and had one. That made me feel TERRIB=
=3D
LY
>> guilty, so went back later and TORE the half a pack that was left apart.
>> Then spent the next 4 days (until garbage pickup) smoking butts out of t=
=3D
he
>> garbage... Been over a week now, and I'm starting to occasionally not mi=
=3D
ss
>> it, although I dreamt about smoking last night... then the cigarette
>> mention in your post...
>
>
>
> Ohhhhhh...oye...
>
>
> Sometimes I run out at like 3:00 A.M., and, just do not feel like driving=
=3D
to
> 7-11...Lol...so yeah, I usually keep an emergency little pack of Rolling
> Papers tucked away somewhere, =3DA0and, just roll up the fragrant, juicy =
li=3D
ttle
> Butts to tide me over till morning and
> Sunshine and the mood to go to 7-11...
>
>
> Kinda humerous in it's way...
>
>
> One reason why a sensible person NEVER cleans out the Ashtrays impetuousl=
=3D
y.
>
>
>
>> Took a break and came back to the draft to finish... all of a sudden not
>> sure why I'm posting this. Seems like I've heard something like
>> "confession is good for the soul..." I'm NOT against smoking. I DIDN'T
>> MIND being around smokers for the 6 years when I wasn't. I AM against Bi=
=3D
g
>> Brother telling me I can't smoke, but it's OK to drink, gamble and
>> gambol... But that's a whole other story... I guess I wrote this to fill
>> some of those 3 extra hours that I now have free every day...
>>
>> Regards, -Rimas
>
>
> 'Big Brother' does not speak truthfully, anyway...about anything, ever.
>
>
>
> Love,
>
> Phil
> Lv
>
--=3D20
Eric Alan Hansen
Stonehouse Studio Pottery
Alexandria, Virginia
americanpotter.blogspot.com
thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
hansencookbook.blogspot.com
"Simplify, simplify, simplify" - Thoreau
Russel Fouts on thu 20 jan 11
Couldn't tell who it was in the thread was talking about stashing =3D
cigarettes everywhere in case they ran out but, ironically, that sounds =3D
like me with Ventolin inhalors. ;-)
I'm much better now, need them almost never since I found a great =3D
homeopath but I still need a puff once in a blue moon and can't run the =3D
risk of not having one at hand so, still stash them everywhere.
Russel
Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
http://www.mypots.com
Home of "The Potters Portal"
Over 3000 Pottery Related Links!
Updated infrequently
"Look, it's my misery that I have to paint this kind of painting, it's =3D
your misery that you have to love it, and the price of the misery is =3D
thirteen hundred and fifty dollars. "
- Mark Rothko, In Art/Painting
Philip Poburka on thu 20 jan 11
Hi Russel,
Years ago, various special Cigarettes were available for Asthmatics.
I used to have a pack, dating from I dunno, late 1890s or so, which were a
blend of Belladonna and, Sweet Virginia Tobacco.
Both are in the same Botanical family of course, the
Solanaceae...
I donated them to a Museum in the early 1970s, so, cannot reference it now
but from memory.
It was an unopened Pack, and, I never did try one to see how I would like
it...probably were pretty alright though, if I had to take a guess...though=
,
they might have dried out a little or oxidized or whatever by the time I ha=
d
them.
Ventolin, I would guess is a
(RS)-4-[2-(tert-butylamino)-1-hydroxyethyl]-2-(hydroxymethyl)phenol, and,
not a friendly, yummy tasting blend of
(8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1]oct-3-yl)
3-hydroxy-2-phenylpropanoate, and, 3-[(2S)-1-methylpyrrolidin-2-yl]pyridine=
.
Oh well...
What's the Homeopath doing which is helping?
There's a lot of Asthma out there...I still have a little bout now and then
myself.
I think hydration is likely a typically unassayed factor, or, I mean, not
being adequately hydrated, is ( with me anyway)...among others.
Love,
Phil
L v
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russel Fouts"
Couldn't tell who it was in the thread was talking about stashing cigarette=
s
everywhere in case they ran out but, ironically, that sounds like me with
Ventolin inhalors. ;-)
I'm much better now, need them almost never since I found a great homeopath
but I still need a puff once in a blue moon and can't run the risk of not
having one at hand so, still stash them everywhere.
Russel
Russel Fouts
Mes Potes & Mes Pots
Brussels, Belgium
Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
http://www.mypots.com
Home of "The Potters Portal"
Over 3000 Pottery Related Links!
Updated infrequently
"Look, it's my misery that I have to paint this kind of painting, it's your
misery that you have to love it, and the price of the misery is thirteen
hundred and fifty dollars. "
- Mark Rothko, In Art/Painting
James Freeman on fri 21 jan 11
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:35 PM, C Sullivan wrote:
Yes! I, too, would like to know what your homeopath recommends
Homeopathy:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
<#>
<#>
<#> <#>
C Sullivan on fri 21 jan 11
Hi Russel
Yes! I, too, would like to know what your homeopath recommends as i smoke =
a
pack a day. And often, find myself gasping for breath! Now, mind you, i
don't want to quite smoking ! Just want to get the total amount smoked dow=
n
to one or two per day.
The telephone always does me in! The minute it rings, the automatic
response is to light a cig. Then, another and another as the conversation
continues.
I say -- rather than give up smoking -- we should ban telephones !
Hugs
Chae
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Philip Poburka wrote:
> Hi Russel,
>
>
>
> Years ago, various special Cigarettes were available for Asthmatics.
>
> I used to have a pack, dating from I dunno, late 1890s or so, which were =
a
> blend of Belladonna and, Sweet Virginia Tobacco.
>
>
> Both are in the same Botanical family of course, the
> Solanaceae...
>
> I donated them to a Museum in the early 1970s, so, cannot reference it no=
w
> but from memory.
>
> It was an unopened Pack, and, I never did try one to see how I would like
> it...probably were pretty alright though, if I had to take a
> guess...though,
> they might have dried out a little or oxidized or whatever by the time I
> had
> them.
>
>
> Ventolin, I would guess is a
> (RS)-4-[2-(tert-butylamino)-1-hydroxyethyl]-2-(hydroxymethyl)phenol, and,
> not a friendly, yummy tasting blend of
> (8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1]oct-3-yl)
> 3-hydroxy-2-phenylpropanoate, and,
> 3-[(2S)-1-methylpyrrolidin-2-yl]pyridine.
>
>
> Oh well...
>
>
> What's the Homeopath doing which is helping?
>
>
> There's a lot of Asthma out there...I still have a little bout now and th=
en
> myself.
>
>
> I think hydration is likely a typically unassayed factor, or, I mean, not
> being adequately hydrated, is ( with me anyway)...among others.
>
>
>
> Love,
>
> Phil
> L v
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russel Fouts"
>
> Couldn't tell who it was in the thread was talking about stashing
> cigarettes
> everywhere in case they ran out but, ironically, that sounds like me with
> Ventolin inhalors. ;-)
>
> I'm much better now, need them almost never since I found a great homeopa=
th
> but I still need a puff once in a blue moon and can't run the risk of not
> having one at hand so, still stash them everywhere.
>
> Russel
>
>
> Russel Fouts
> Mes Potes & Mes Pots
> Brussels, Belgium
> Tel: +32 2 223 02 75
> Mobile: +32 476 55 38 75
>
> http://www.mypots.com
> Home of "The Potters Portal"
> Over 3000 Pottery Related Links!
> Updated infrequently
>
>
> "Look, it's my misery that I have to paint this kind of painting, it's yo=
ur
> misery that you have to love it, and the price of the misery is thirteen
> hundred and fifty dollars. "
>
> - Mark Rothko, In Art/Painting
>
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