Brad Sondahl on fri 4 feb 11
A few years ago I wrote an article for Pottery Making Illustrated on
how to add a thrown coil foot to pottery. I know I didn't invent the
process, but I do use it for every pot I add a foot to, probably over
1000 per year. It reduces the amount of trimming (and clay recycling),
and can make a high enough foot on plates so they stack well, and
flared enough foot on bowls so they can be glazed holding them by
their base. It occurred to me recently that there probably aren't a
lot of production potters who take the slightly extra time to do this,
so I'd like to hear if there are, in the Clayart group, or other
potters you know of. If I don't hear of any, I might even promote it
as a selling point..
Brad Sondahl
http://www.sondahl.com
Lee on fri 4 feb 11
I sometimes throw feet.
Kumhar potter throwing feet. Go to 4:10 on the tape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3D6azOLmpJUI8
They hump throw too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3D7ivMtVeg10s
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Kanika Sircar on fri 4 feb 11
The kumhar (or potter) is actually throwing a neck. That kind of water
vessel has a round base, no foot. Nice video anyway, a lot of it complainin=
g
about the lack of respect shown to potters.
Kanika
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From: "Lee"
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:11 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Thrown coil foot (Actual pottery question)
> I sometimes throw feet.
>
> Kumhar potter throwing feet. Go to 4:10 on the tape:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6azOLmpJUI8
>
> They hump throw too:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7ivMtVeg10s
> --
> Lee Love in Minneapolis
> http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
>
> "Ta tIr na n-=F3g ar chul an tI-tIr dlainn trina ch=E9ile"-that is, "The
> land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
> within itself." -- John O'Donohue
>
Nancy Gallagher on fri 4 feb 11
I'll throw a foot on my earthenware draped platters. Not traditional,
but I like the way the back is finished better that way.
Nancy
Lee on fri 4 feb 11
Please look at the whole vid. carefully. Note the distance from the
whole and the foot (the pot is upside down) and then look at the
distant shot. The spout is closer to the foot than the neck (so most
of the water can get out) He throws the foot first. The foot and
neck are similar, the foot is shorter. I had a better video, but
can't find it. Maybe I can upload it.
Kumhar/ potter throwing feet. =3DA0 Go to 4:10 on the tape:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3D6azOLmpJUI8
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3D7ivMtVeg10s
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Lee on sat 5 feb 11
One of my most frequent ways of using the thrown footring, is when I
am making a tall ceremonial foot. I have found if you throw these
tall feet, you have less chance of them cracking at the seam, than you
do with a thrown and attached footring. Much like the Pakistani
potter I shared in the video.
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
David Woof on sat 5 feb 11
Coil thrown feet can be very elegant if one is form conscious to begin with=
=3D
. Folks just do it!!! If you can center and effectively use up 5 or more=
=3D
pounds to produce a bowl you will have a bowl "blank" large enough to make=
=3D
a thrown foot practical. You can figure it out on a couple of pots.=3D20
=3D20
Watching others doing it is fine but you still just have to take the risk o=
=3D
f several possible "not the best ones" as you develop the technique and ski=
=3D
ll. Nothing is precious until it becomes so in our mind. When you think o=
=3D
f it=3D2C a tightly trimmed foot mated to the great and wonderfully uprisin=
g =3D
gesture of a well thrown bowl is just incongruent when compared to a foot f=
=3D
orm that also grows from the base of the bowl with that same exuberant yet =
=3D
well formed expressive gesture.
=3D20
I throw feet on all of my bowls 12" and larger in diameter. I started doin=
=3D
g it years ago when producing for the art fair circuit. Saves much time a=
=3D
nd remixing of scrap trimmings reclaim from trimmed feet because one can th=
=3D
row to the correct bottom depth without including that ample cookie of clay=
=3D
to trim away.
=3D20
David Woof.......talking about what I love in Clarkdale=3D2C Arizona.......
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4a. Re: Thrown coil foot (Actual pottery question)
Posted by: "Lee" cwiddershins@GMAIL.COM=3D20
Date: Fri Feb 4=3D2C 2011 11:30 am ((PST))
=3D20
I sometimes throw feet.
=3D20
Kumhar potter throwing feet. Go to 4:10 on the tape:
=3D20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3D6azOLmpJUI8
=3D20
They hump throw too:
=3D20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3D7ivMtVeg10s
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3D20
"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97tha=
t is=3D2C =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house=3D2C a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John=3D20
=3D20
=3D
Steve Mills on sat 5 feb 11
Going slightly sideways in another direction.=3D20
I used to throw feet on some of my pots, but tend not to now. The reason co=
m=3D
es from watching UK Potter David Frith.=3D20
He reserves all his trimmings, low-bisque fires them, and converts them int=
o=3D
grog using a corn grinder.=3D20
There are several advantages.
The resulting material matches the base clay giving good throwing strength,=
a=3D
nice tight fired finish, and a smoother unglazed surface. Also you know th=
e=3D
provenance of your grog, important here where it can sometimes be contamin=
a=3D
ted.=3D20
Steve M
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
www.mudslinger.me.uk
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On 4 Feb 2011, at 16:46, Brad Sondahl wrote:
> A few years ago I wrote an article for Pottery Making Illustrated on
> how to add a thrown coil foot to pottery. I know I didn't invent the
> process, but I do use it for every pot I add a foot to, probably over
> 1000 per year. It reduces the amount of trimming (and clay recycling),
> and can make a high enough foot on plates so they stack well, and
> flared enough foot on bowls so they can be glazed holding them by
> their base. It occurred to me recently that there probably aren't a
> lot of production potters who take the slightly extra time to do this,
> so I'd like to hear if there are, in the Clayart group, or other
> potters you know of. If I don't hear of any, I might even promote it
> as a selling point..
> Brad Sondahl
> http://www.sondahl.com
Reed Bakken on sat 5 feb 11
Hey Brad,
I've been doing this type of footing
for over 30 years.
Like you say, why trim away all that clay
to get a foot. I mix my own clay so I have
less reclaim this way.
I do find that my porcelain joins better
than my stoneware. Must be my clay body
mixes.
I've put a 50" coil on the base of a large
bowl, quite the challenge, but fun. It is important
to compress the coil to the pot, then squeeze upward,
and compress again. Same as weal blending.
Reed
Brad wrote:
A few years ago I wrote an article for Pottery Making
Illustrated on
how to add a thrown coil foot to pottery. I know I didn't
invent the
process, but I do use it for every pot I add a foot to,
probably over
1000 per year. It reduces the amount of trimming (and clay
recycling),
and can make a high enough foot on plates so they stack
well, and
flared enough foot on bowls so they can be glazed holding
them by
their base. It occurred to me recently that there
probably aren't a
lot of production potters who take the slightly extra time
to do this,
Russel Fouts on sun 6 feb 11
I've pinched foot rings on bowls and cups. It works really well. You =3D
just have to be sure to leave enough clay in the bottom to do it.
I first saw a friend do it when I was in college in the 70's. She's =3D
pinch foot rings on cups but also handles and very tall stems for =3D
goblets. Really nice work too. Have no idea what happened to her. We had =
=3D
an enormous bowl that we'd all eat popcorn out of that she'd pinched; =3D
BIG, golden brown, salt glaze with a light celadon inside, very nice.
Russel
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ivor and olive lewis on sun 6 feb 11
Dear Brad Sondahl,
I think this is one of those ideal examples that would be best solved by
applying the concepts and precepts of F.B.Gilbreth, that is a Time and
Motion Study of the competing practices.
To get the result that you advocate as a one piece solution, that is a deep
footring with sufficient clearance to allow efficient stacking and
assistance with the application of glaze slop requires a thickly thrown
base,in excess of 20 mm (3/4 in). This demands a considerable time allowanc=
e
for trimming as well as additional time and labour if clay is reclaimed.
An alternative to the method you describe is to throw a baseless annulus of
the desired diameter and radial profile and allow this to firm up before it
is sheared from a bat. The bowl body is then flipped over, recentred on the
wheel head, base uppermost (an ideal job for the Giffen). A spin of the
wheel and the application of a stylus creates a guide mark for attaching th=
e
clay annulus. I do not favour the scratch and slurry method of luting joint=
s
preferring instead to use air thickened deflocculated slip which is piped
inside the circular guide line.
I do hope Mel can consider the inclusion of illustrations in his proposed
upgrading to the Clayart facility.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis,
REDHILL,
South Australia.
Which continues to enjoy, or is it suffer, near drought conditions as the
approaching remnants of the cyclone are deflected east by the Flinders
Ranges.
Lee on mon 7 feb 11
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Russel Fouts wrot=
=3D
e:
> I've pinched foot rings on bowls and cups. It works really well. You just=
=3D
have to be sure to leave enough clay in the bottom to do it.
Russel, for tall footrings, I try to leave enough clay at the bottom
of the pot when it is cut off the hump, to trim the middle, then throw
the tall Sue type foot from the clay on the bottom of the pot. This
reduces any cracks you might get from attaching a snake to throw the
ring.
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Bonnie Staffel on mon 7 feb 11
I have often made the high foot addition by throwing it separately. =3D
However,
I would like to address a different issue. Having made functional work =3D
and
having a dishwasher myself, I know that the water fills in the foot ring =
=3D
and
can't get out the usually placed pot upside down. So I drill two or more
small holes where the foot is attached to the belly of the pot. I make =3D
sure
the glaze is free from these holes but the idea works beautifully for =3D
those
who use such footed pots in their home for other than decorative =3D
purposes.
These can be an addition to the beauty of the pot as well as the =3D
function.=3D20
Bonnie
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Eleanora Eden on mon 7 feb 11
Over the years I have used all of the systems mentioned. Early on
I grabbed the clay I would trim away, trimming quite wet, and throw it
into a really nice foot.
More recently I threw a coil foot. These days I raise a thick cylinder
and cut off as many rings as I need for feet. Then proceed as Ivor
outlined, but using the freshly thrown piece and shaping it on the
overturned bowl.
Eleanora
>A few years ago I wrote an article for Pottery Making Illustrated on
>how to add a thrown coil foot to pottery. I know I didn't invent the
>process, but I do use it for every pot I add a foot to, probably over
>1000 per year. It reduces the amount of trimming (and clay recycling),
>and can make a high enough foot on plates so they stack well, and
>flared enough foot on bowls so they can be glazed holding them by
>their base. It occurred to me recently that there probably aren't a
>lot of production potters who take the slightly extra time to do this,
>so I'd like to hear if there are, in the Clayart group, or other
>potters you know of. If I don't hear of any, I might even promote it
>as a selling point..
>Brad Sondahl
>http://www.sondahl.com
--
Bellows Falls Vermont
www.eleanoraeden.com
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