Lili Krakowski on wed 9 feb 11
Now that "we all" have told that nice woman why she is to mix Bentonite =3D
into her Fe2O3 (a moniker I much prefer to "RIO") we might tell her =3D
this:
Bentonite is a clay, of a particular type, and with very small =3D
particles. It has a number of industrial uses, such as waterproofing =3D
foundations and ponds...where it is sprayed against the "walls" and =3D
seals them, With varying success I am told by some who have paid a =3D
bundle to have it done.
It also is used in oil drilling, but I do not know details.
In the studio is it used to keep non-plastic materials in suspension in =
=3D
a liquid mix. If you have a glaze low in clay which settles out into =3D
rock at the bottom of the bucket, adding 2-3% bentonite to the DRY =3D
mix--mix it in dry-- when you weigh it out will solve that problem.
If you forget to add to the dry mix you are allowed a =3D
hissy-fit/conniption that lasts 20 seconds. "Oh, Good grief! What have =3D
I done?" Then you reach for the gallon jug in which you dissolved a =3D
fistful of bentonite in warm water.
You get a gallon jug from a deli, restaurant or bar. My favorites are =3D
the ones in which maraschino cherries come. (The jars smell great; but =3D
see below) Fill with warm water, and drop in a fistful of bentonite. =3D
Let it sit for several hours, or overnight. The Bentonite will =3D
disperse, and then you stir and sieve it. =3D20
It will remain there forever, looking grey and sickly to be sure. When =3D
you mix a glaze low in clay, where you forgot to add Bentonite, you add =3D
a good dollop of your mix to glaze, sieve, let sit, see if it is =3D
suspended enough. Add more if needed.
The more scientific on list will give you specific measures. I just go =3D
by gum and by golly. Do not overdo the mix addition. It can lead to =3D
the glaze cracking on the pot as the glaze dries. But that is =3D
eggstream.
As to Maraschino cherries. When we wintered in Charleston, SC one of =3D
the places we rented at, had a dancehall attached. They would have =3D
receptions and the like, and whoever would empty out the punch bowls in =3D
the parking lot. The seagulls would swoop in, eat everything in sight =3D
(get drunk too, I suppose) and all that would be left were the =3D
Maraschino cherries..which, of a Sunday morning, polka-dotted the =3D
parking area. I ask you: WHAT can be in those cherries that =3D
seagulls--of all scavengers and garbage eaters--won' t touch them?
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
James Freeman on wed 9 feb 11
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Lili Krakowski wro=
te:
As to Maraschino cherries. When we wintered in Charleston, SC one of the
places we rented at, had a dancehall attached. They would have receptions
and the like, and whoever would empty out the punch bowls in the parking
lot. The seagulls would swoop in, eat everything in sight (get drunk too, =
I
suppose) and all that would be left were the Maraschino cherries..which, of
a Sunday morning, polka-dotted the parking area. I ask you: WHAT can be i=
n
those cherries that seagulls--of all scavengers and garbage eaters--won' t
touch them?
A young man on my floor in college worked summers at a maraschino cherry
plant in northern Michigan. He told us wonderful stories about how the
cherries are made. I still eat them even knowing what I do, though I
probably shouldn't.
His main job was to clean out the brining vats. He said that these were
essentially very large in-ground swimming pools which sat uncovered for mos=
t
of the year. He said that they were filled with vile, rotting slop
consisting of leaves, garbage, carcasses of small to medium-sized mammals,
and a staggering and shocking number of deceased frogs. They would shovel
out all of that heady and aromatic slop, then wash down and "sanitize" the
vats (kinda-sorta). The cherries, once harvested, were dumped into the
vats, and the vats were filled with some sort of chemical solution which
bleached out the color and leached out the flavor. The cherries were then
soaked in a flavored syrup which contained Red Dye #4. Yes, THAT Red Dye
#4, the one that was banned by our government. He said that maraschino
cherry manufacture is the only "food" application of that supposedly
dangerous dye that is still legal, as the cherries are considered by the
government to be decorative items rather than foodstuffs. Enjoy that
Manhattan or Rob Roy!
All the best
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
Patty on wed 9 feb 11
Another use for Bentonite:
To treat a potential ingrown toe nail make a paste of bentonite and witch
hazel. Apply to the toe and nail. It gets between the nail and the skin,
easing the pain and protecting the toe.
Patty Kaliher
Eric Hansen on wed 9 feb 11
a slurry of bentonite lubricates like oil. A mountain side of volcanic
clay, when it rains is also as slick as oil. We discovered this when
descending Mt.Cameroon in Africa, when my wife fell and broke her arm.
I believe the bentonite is just poured down the drilling hole as far
as oil wells are concerned. It can also be used to seal leaks in farm
ponds.
- h a n s e n -
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Lili Krakowski wr=
=3D
ote:
> Now that "we all" have told that nice woman why she is to mix Bentonite i=
=3D
nto her Fe2O3 (a moniker I much prefer to "RIO") we might tell her this:
>
> Bentonite is a clay, of a particular type, and with very small particles.=
=3D
=3DA0It has a number of industrial uses, such as waterproofing foundations=
a=3D
nd ponds...where it is sprayed against the "walls" and seals them, =3DA0Wit=
h =3D
varying success I am told by some who have paid a bundle =3DA0to have it do=
ne=3D
.
>
> It also is used in oil drilling, but I do not know details.
>
> In the studio is it used to keep non-plastic materials in =3DA0suspension=
i=3D
n a liquid mix. =3DA0If you have a glaze low in clay which settles out into=
r=3D
ock at the bottom of the bucket, adding 2-3% bentonite to the DRY mix--mix =
=3D
it in dry-- when you weigh it out will solve that problem.
>
> If you forget to add to the dry mix =3DA0you are allowed a hissy-fit/conn=
ip=3D
tion that lasts 20 seconds. =3DA0"Oh, Good grief! What have I done?" =3DA0T=
hen =3D
you reach for the gallon jug in which you dissolved a fistful of bentonite =
=3D
in warm water.
>
> You get a gallon jug from a deli, restaurant or bar. =3DA0My favorites ar=
e =3D
the ones in which maraschino cherries come. (The jars smell great; but see =
=3D
below) Fill with =3DA0warm water, and drop in =3DA0a fistful of bentonite. =
=3DA0L=3D
et it sit for several hours, or overnight. =3DA0The Bentonite will disperse=
, =3D
and then you stir and sieve it.
>
> It will remain there forever, looking grey and sickly to be sure. =3DA0Wh=
en=3D
you mix a glaze low in clay, where you forgot to add Bentonite, you add a =
=3D
good dollop of your mix to glaze, sieve, let sit, see if it is suspended en=
=3D
ough. Add more if needed.
>
> The more scientific on list will give you specific measures. =3DA0I just =
go=3D
by gum and by golly. =3DA0Do not overdo the mix addition. =3DA0It can lead=
to =3D
the glaze cracking on the pot as the glaze dries. =3DA0But that is eggstrea=
m.
>
> As to Maraschino cherries. =3DA0When we wintered in Charleston, SC one of=
t=3D
he places we rented at, had a dancehall attached. =3DA0They would have rece=
pt=3D
ions and the like, and whoever would empty out the punch bowls in the parki=
=3D
ng lot. =3DA0The seagulls would swoop in, eat everything in sight (get drun=
k =3D
too, I suppose) and all that would be left were the Maraschino cherries..wh=
=3D
ich, of a Sunday morning, polka-dotted the parking area. =3DA0I ask you: =
=3DA0W=3D
HAT can be in those cherries that seagulls--of all scavengers and garbage e=
=3D
aters--won' t touch them?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lili Krakowski
> Be of good courage
>
--=3D20
Eric Alan Hansen
Stonehouse Studio Pottery
Alexandria, Virginia
americanpotter.blogspot.com
thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
hansencookbook.blogspot.com
"Simplify, simplify, simplify" - Thoreau
James Freeman on wed 9 feb 11
It turns out that since the time that the gentleman I spoke of worked at th=
e
maraschino cherry plant, Red Dye #4, which was provisionally approved for
cherry manufacture, has been replaced with Red Dye #40. Red Dye #4 is now
approved only for cosmetics and externally applied drugs, which most of us
don't eat. No word on whether or not the dead frogs and mammals have been
replaced since that time also. Eat hearty!
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, James Freeman m
> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Lili Krakowski w=
rote:
>
> As to Maraschino cherries. When we wintered in Charleston, SC one of the
> places we rented at, had a dancehall attached. They would have reception=
s
> and the like, and whoever would empty out the punch bowls in the parking
> lot. The seagulls would swoop in, eat everything in sight (get drunk too=
, I
> suppose) and all that would be left were the Maraschino cherries..which, =
of
> a Sunday morning, polka-dotted the parking area. I ask you: WHAT can be=
in
> those cherries that seagulls--of all scavengers and garbage eaters--won' =
t
> touch them?
>
>
>
>
> A young man on my floor in college worked summers at a maraschino cherry
> plant in northern Michigan. He told us wonderful stories about how the
> cherries are made. I still eat them even knowing what I do, though I
> probably shouldn't.
>
> His main job was to clean out the brining vats. He said that these were
> essentially very large in-ground swimming pools which sat uncovered for m=
ost
> of the year. He said that they were filled with vile, rotting slop
> consisting of leaves, garbage, carcasses of small to medium-sized mammals=
,
> and a staggering and shocking number of deceased frogs. They would shove=
l
> out all of that heady and aromatic slop, then wash down and "sanitize" th=
e
> vats (kinda-sorta). The cherries, once harvested, were dumped into the
> vats, and the vats were filled with some sort of chemical solution which
> bleached out the color and leached out the flavor. The cherries were the=
n
> soaked in a flavored syrup which contained Red Dye #4. Yes, THAT Red Dye
> #4, the one that was banned by our government. He said that maraschino
> cherry manufacture is the only "food" application of that supposedly
> dangerous dye that is still legal, as the cherries are considered by the
> government to be decorative items rather than foodstuffs. Enjoy that
> Manhattan or Rob Roy!
>
> All the best
>
> ...James
>
> James Freeman
>
> "...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
> preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
>
> "All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I shoul=
d
> not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
> -Michel de Montaigne
>
> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
>
>
John Goode on sat 12 feb 11
How about a bentonite bath?
Supposedly will leach all toxins out of your pores.
Not recommended if you have a septic tank for your waste water.
Anyone else hear about or try it?
Happy Soaking!!
John Goode
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:05 PM, James Freeman
wrote:
> It turns out that since the time that the gentleman I spoke of worked at
> the
> maraschino cherry plant, Red Dye #4, which was provisionally approved for
> cherry manufacture, has been replaced with Red Dye #40. Red Dye #4 is no=
w
> approved only for cosmetics and externally applied drugs, which most of u=
s
> don't eat. No word on whether or not the dead frogs and mammals have bee=
n
> replaced since that time also. Eat hearty!
>
> ...James
>
> James Freeman
>
> "...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
> preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
>
> "All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I shoul=
d
> not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
> -Michel de Montaigne
>
> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, James Freeman <
> jamesfreemanstudio@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Lili Krakowski > >wrote:
> >
> > As to Maraschino cherries. When we wintered in Charleston, SC one of t=
he
> > places we rented at, had a dancehall attached. They would have
> receptions
> > and the like, and whoever would empty out the punch bowls in the parkin=
g
> > lot. The seagulls would swoop in, eat everything in sight (get drunk
> too, I
> > suppose) and all that would be left were the Maraschino cherries..which=
,
> of
> > a Sunday morning, polka-dotted the parking area. I ask you: WHAT can =
be
> in
> > those cherries that seagulls--of all scavengers and garbage eaters--won=
'
> t
> > touch them?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A young man on my floor in college worked summers at a maraschino cherr=
y
> > plant in northern Michigan. He told us wonderful stories about how the
> > cherries are made. I still eat them even knowing what I do, though I
> > probably shouldn't.
> >
> > His main job was to clean out the brining vats. He said that these wer=
e
> > essentially very large in-ground swimming pools which sat uncovered for
> most
> > of the year. He said that they were filled with vile, rotting slop
> > consisting of leaves, garbage, carcasses of small to medium-sized
> mammals,
> > and a staggering and shocking number of deceased frogs. They would
> shovel
> > out all of that heady and aromatic slop, then wash down and "sanitize"
> the
> > vats (kinda-sorta). The cherries, once harvested, were dumped into the
> > vats, and the vats were filled with some sort of chemical solution whic=
h
> > bleached out the color and leached out the flavor. The cherries were
> then
> > soaked in a flavored syrup which contained Red Dye #4. Yes, THAT Red D=
ye
> > #4, the one that was banned by our government. He said that maraschino
> > cherry manufacture is the only "food" application of that supposedly
> > dangerous dye that is still legal, as the cherries are considered by th=
e
> > government to be decorative items rather than foodstuffs. Enjoy that
> > Manhattan or Rob Roy!
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > ...James
> >
> > James Freeman
> >
> > "...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
> > preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
> >
> > "All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I
> should
> > not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
> > -Michel de Montaigne
> >
> > http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
> > http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
> >
> >
>
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