gwynneth rixon on thu 17 mar 11
You could donate to the Red Cross who have sent teams there, also those
doing international search and rescue.
Also MSF (I think that has a different name in the USA.
No borders, no politics just people helping people.
Gwynneth
Wales
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Frank Gaydos wro=
=3D
te:
> I know it sounds harsh and counter intuitive but do not donate money to
> Japan until you do some research.
>
> This is a cogent argument from this guy:
>
>
>
> Individuals are doing it, banks are doing it =3D97 faced with the horrifi=
c =3D
news
> and pictures from Japan, everybody wants to do something, and the obvious
> thing to do is to donate money to some relief fund or other.
>
> Please don=3D92t.
>
> We went through this after the Haiti earthquake, and all of the arguments
> which applied there apply to Japan as well. Earmarking funds is a really
> good way of hobbling relief organizations and ensuring that they have to
> leave large piles of money unspent in one place while facing urgent needs=
=3D
in
> other places. And as Matthew Bishop and Michael Green said last year, we =
=3D
are
> all better at responding to human suffering caused by dramatic, telegenic
> emergencies than to the much greater loss of life from ongoing hunger,
> disease and conflict. That often results in a mess of uncoordinated NGOs
> parachuting in to emergency areas with lots of good intentions, where a
> strategic official sector response would be much more effective. Meanwhil=
=3D
e,
> the smaller and less visible emergencies where NGOs can do the most good =
=3D
are
> left unfunded.
>
> In the specific case of Japan, there=3D92s all the more reason not to don=
at=3D
e
> money. Japan is a wealthy country which is responding to the disaster, am=
=3D
ong
> other things, by printing hundreds of billions of dollars=3D92 worth of n=
ew
> money. Money is not the bottleneck here: if money is needed, Japan can ra=
=3D
ise
> it. On top of that, it=3D92s still extremely unclear how or where organiz=
at=3D
ions
> like globalgiving intend on spending the money that they=3D92re currently
> raising for Japan =3D97 so far we=3D92re just told that the money =3D93wi=
ll hel=3D
p
> survivors and victims get necessary services,=3D94 which is basically cod=
e =3D
for
> =3D93we have no idea what we=3D92re going to do with the money, but we=3D=
92ll p=3D
robably
> think of something.=3D94
>
>
>
> Also most charities are corrupt, top heavy with bureaucrats with a tiny
> percentage of money actually going to the victims.
>
> I urge you to do your homework before you give.
>
> Check out this site. I was shocked by how many supposed charities for
> veterans are not helping the Vets at all.
>
> If you still wish to give, choose a site that has high ratings and do not
> earmark your funds only to Japan.
>
> http :// www . charitywatch .org
>
>
>
> Frank Gaydos
>
>
>
> http ://home.comcast.net/~ frankgaydos
> /index. html
>
> Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will
>
> take you everywhere. Albert Einstein
>
>
> Please don=3D92t.
>
> We went through this after the Haiti earthquake, and all of the arguments
> which applied there apply to Japan as well. Earmarking funds is a really
> good way of hobbling relief organizations and ensuring that they have to
> leave large piles of money unspent in one place while facing urgent needs=
=3D
in
> other places. And as Matthew Bishop and Michael Green said last year, we =
=3D
are
> all better at responding to human suffering caused by dramatic, telegenic
> emergencies than to the much greater loss of life from ongoing hunger,
> disease and conflict. That often results in a mess of uncoordinated NGOs
> parachuting in to emergency areas with lots of good intentions, where a
> strategic official sector response would be much more effective. Meanwhil=
=3D
e,
> the smaller and less visible emergencies where NGOs can do the most good =
=3D
are
> left unfunded.
>
> In the specific case of Japan, there=3D92s all the more reason not to don=
at=3D
e
> money. Japan is a wealthy country which is responding to the disaster, am=
=3D
ong
> other things, by printing hundreds of billions of dollars=3D92 worth of n=
ew
> money. Money is not the bottleneck here: if money is needed, Japan can ra=
=3D
ise
> it. On top of that, it=3D92s still extremely unclear how or where organiz=
at=3D
ions
> like globalgiving intend on spending the money that they=3D92re currently
> raising for Japan =3D97 so far we=3D92re just told that the money =3D93wi=
ll hel=3D
p
> survivors and victims get necessary services,=3D94 which is basically cod=
e =3D
for
> =3D93we have no idea what we=3D92re going to do with the money, but we=3D=
92ll p=3D
robably
> think of something.=3D94
>
>
>
> Also most charities are corrupt, top heavy with bureaucrats with a tiny
> percentage of money actually going to the victims.
>
> I urge you to do your homework before you give.
>
> Check out this site. I was shocked by how many supposed charities for
> veterans are not helping the Vets at all.
>
> If you still wish to give, choose a site that has high ratings and do not
> earmark your funds only to Japan.
>
> http :// www . charitywatch .org
>
>
>
> Frank Gaydos
>
>
>
> http ://home.comcast.net/~ frankgaydos
> /index. html
>
> Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will
>
> take you everywhere. Albert Einstein
>
Kathy Forer on fri 18 mar 11
It's a counter-argument to a mainly moral argument we shouldn't donate to r=
e=3D
lief organizations because some of them may be corrupt, gasp, and others ma=
y=3D
fritter their mission away, top heavy, mission long, results short.=3D20
The links are to two solid organizations with good track records unless you=
g=3D
et picky picky and leave it at that.=3D20
If you eliminate morality from the loop there are good reasons for donating=
t=3D
o help people, even those in a wealthy country. No one is wealthy or poor w=
h=3D
en it comes to illness, except when their care is rationed according to the=
i=3D
r purse not their need, one way or another.=3D20
Keep morality in or leave it out, donating to the charitable organization =
o=3D
r church of your choice is a perfectly good response to a devastating tripl=
e=3D
whammy.=3D20
As for the website owner, I can't impute her exact motives, it's sketchy, e=
i=3D
ther Internet troll or satirist, but there are some people "big fat idiots"=
(=3D
tm) who claim Japan brought this on itself or at least deserved it, hence "=
g=3D
odhatesjapan." I think it's a pretty positive or at least strong message th=
a=3D
t even amid skepticism there is call for action.=3D20
Kathy Forer
On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Randall Moody wrote:
> "imaginary sky monster"? It appears that the website owner is the jerk. A=
n=3D
ything helps in situations like this. If you donate to a fly-by-night "char=
i=3D
ty" then you are not helping. Do the research and you will find out those t=
h=3D
at believe in "imaginary sky monsters" are some of the best run charities a=
r=3D
ound.=3D20
>=3D20
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Kathy Forer wrote:
> Here's a good link: http://www.godhatesjapan.com/
>=3D20
>=3D20
> On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Frank Gaydos wrote=
:=3D
>=3D20
> > I know it sounds harsh and counter intuitive but do not donate money to=
J=3D
apan until you do some research.
> >
> > This is a cogent argument from this guy:
> >
> >
> >
> > Individuals are doing it, banks are doing it =3DE2=3D80=3D94 faced with=
the ho=3D
rrific news and pictures from Japan, everybody wants to do something, and t=
h=3D
e obvious thing to do is to donate money to some relief fund or other.
> >
> > Please don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t.
> >
> > We went through this after the Haiti earthquake, and all of the argumen=
t=3D
s which applied there apply to Japan as well. Earmarking funds is a really =
g=3D
ood way of hobbling relief organizations and ensuring that they have to lea=
v=3D
e large piles of money unspent in one place while facing urgent needs in ot=
h=3D
er places. And as Matthew Bishop and Michael Green said last year, we are a=
l=3D
l better at responding to human suffering caused by dramatic, telegenic eme=
r=3D
gencies than to the much greater loss of life from ongoing hunger, disease =
a=3D
nd conflict. That often results in a mess of uncoordinated NGOs parachuting=
i=3D
n to emergency areas with lots of good intentions, where a strategic offici=
a=3D
l sector response would be much more effective. Meanwhile, the smaller and =
l=3D
ess visible emergencies where NGOs can do the most good are left unfunded.
> >
> > In the specific case of Japan, there=3DE2=3D80=3D99s all the more reaso=
n not t=3D
o donate money. Japan is a wealthy country which is responding to the disas=
t=3D
er, among other things, by printing hundreds of billions of dollars=3DE2=3D=
80=3D99=3D
worth of new money. Money is not the bottleneck here: if money is needed, =
J=3D
apan can raise it. On top of that, it=3DE2=3D80=3D99s still extremely uncle=
ar how o=3D
r where organizations like globalgiving intend on spending the money that t=
h=3D
ey=3DE2=3D80=3D99re currently raising for Japan =3DE2=3D80=3D94 so far we=
=3DE2=3D80=3D99re jus=3D
t told that the money =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cwill help survivors and victims get ne=
cessary=3D
services,=3DE2=3D80=3D9D which is basically code for =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cwe hav=
e no idea wha=3D
t we=3DE2=3D80=3D99re going to do with the money, but we=3DE2=3D80=3D99ll p=
robably think=3D
of something.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D
> >
> >
> >
> > Also most charities are corrupt, top heavy with bureaucrats with a tiny=
p=3D
ercentage of money actually going to the victims.
> >
> > I urge you to do your homework before you give.
> >
> > Check out this site. I was shocked by how many supposed charities for v=
e=3D
terans are not helping the Vets at all.
> >
> > If you still wish to give, choose a site that has high ratings and do n=
o=3D
t earmark your funds only to Japan.
> >
> > http :// www . charitywatch .org
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Gaydos
> >
> >
> >
> > http ://home.comcast.net/~ frankgaydos /index. html
> >
> > Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will
> >
> > take you everywhere. Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > Please don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t.
> >
> > We went through this after the Haiti earthquake, and all of the argumen=
t=3D
s which applied there apply to Japan as well. Earmarking funds is a really =
g=3D
ood way of hobbling relief organizations and ensuring that they have to lea=
v=3D
e large piles of money unspent in one place while facing urgent needs in ot=
h=3D
er places. And as Matthew Bishop and Michael Green said last year, we are a=
l=3D
l better at responding to human suffering caused by dramatic, telegenic eme=
r=3D
gencies than to the much greater loss of life from ongoing hunger, disease =
a=3D
nd conflict. That often results in a mess of uncoordinated NGOs parachuting=
i=3D
n to emergency areas with lots of good intentions, where a strategic offici=
a=3D
l sector response would be much more effective. Meanwhile, the smaller and =
l=3D
ess visible emergencies where NGOs can do the most good are left unfunded.
> >
> > In the specific case of Japan, there=3DE2=3D80=3D99s all the more reaso=
n not t=3D
o donate money. Japan is a wealthy country which is responding to the disas=
t=3D
er, among other things, by printing hundreds of billions of dollars=3DE2=3D=
80=3D99=3D
worth of new money. Money is not the bottleneck here: if money is needed, =
J=3D
apan can raise it. On top of that, it=3DE2=3D80=3D99s still extremely uncle=
ar how o=3D
r where organizations like globalgiving intend on spending the money that t=
h=3D
ey=3DE2=3D80=3D99re currently raising for Japan =3DE2=3D80=3D94 so far we=
=3DE2=3D80=3D99re jus=3D
t told that the money =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cwill help survivors and victims get ne=
cessary=3D
services,=3DE2=3D80=3D9D which is basically code for =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cwe hav=
e no idea wha=3D
t we=3DE2=3D80=3D99re going to do with the money, but we=3DE2=3D80=3D99ll p=
robably think=3D
of something.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D
> >
> >
> >
> > Also most charities are corrupt, top heavy with bureaucrats with a tiny=
p=3D
ercentage of money actually going to the victims.
> >
> > I urge you to do your homework before you give.
> >
> > Check out this site. I was shocked by how many supposed charities for v=
e=3D
terans are not helping the Vets at all.
> >
> > If you still wish to give, choose a site that has high ratings and do n=
o=3D
t earmark your funds only to Japan.
> >
> > http :// www . charitywatch .org
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Gaydos
> >
> >
> >
> > http ://home.comcast.net/~ frankgaydos /index. html
> >
> > Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will
> >
> > take you everywhere. Albert Einstein
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
> --=3D20
> Randall in Atlanta
> http://wrandallmoody.com
Randall Moody on fri 18 mar 11
"imaginary sky monster"? It appears that the website owner is the jerk.
Anything helps in situations like this. If you donate to a fly-by-night
"charity" then you are not helping. Do the research and you will find out
those that believe in "imaginary sky monsters" are some of the best run
charities around.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Kathy Forer wrote:
> Here's a good link: http://www.godhatesjapan.com/
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Frank Gaydos wrote=
=3D
:
>
> > I know it sounds harsh and counter intuitive but do not donate money to
> Japan until you do some research.
> >
> > This is a cogent argument from this guy:
> >
> >
> >
> > Individuals are doing it, banks are doing it =3D97 faced with the horri=
fi=3D
c
> news and pictures from Japan, everybody wants to do something, and the
> obvious thing to do is to donate money to some relief fund or other.
> >
> > Please don=3D92t.
> >
> > We went through this after the Haiti earthquake, and all of the argumen=
=3D
ts
> which applied there apply to Japan as well. Earmarking funds is a really
> good way of hobbling relief organizations and ensuring that they have to
> leave large piles of money unspent in one place while facing urgent needs=
=3D
in
> other places. And as Matthew Bishop and Michael Green said last year, we =
=3D
are
> all better at responding to human suffering caused by dramatic, telegenic
> emergencies than to the much greater loss of life from ongoing hunger,
> disease and conflict. That often results in a mess of uncoordinated NGOs
> parachuting in to emergency areas with lots of good intentions, where a
> strategic official sector response would be much more effective. Meanwhil=
=3D
e,
> the smaller and less visible emergencies where NGOs can do the most good =
=3D
are
> left unfunded.
> >
> > In the specific case of Japan, there=3D92s all the more reason not to d=
on=3D
ate
> money. Japan is a wealthy country which is responding to the disaster, am=
=3D
ong
> other things, by printing hundreds of billions of dollars=3D92 worth of n=
ew
> money. Money is not the bottleneck here: if money is needed, Japan can ra=
=3D
ise
> it. On top of that, it=3D92s still extremely unclear how or where organiz=
at=3D
ions
> like globalgiving intend on spending the money that they=3D92re currently
> raising for Japan =3D97 so far we=3D92re just told that the money =3D93wi=
ll hel=3D
p
> survivors and victims get necessary services,=3D94 which is basically cod=
e =3D
for
> =3D93we have no idea what we=3D92re going to do with the money, but we=3D=
92ll p=3D
robably
> think of something.=3D94
> >
> >
> >
> > Also most charities are corrupt, top heavy with bureaucrats with a tiny
> percentage of money actually going to the victims.
> >
> > I urge you to do your homework before you give.
> >
> > Check out this site. I was shocked by how many supposed charities for
> veterans are not helping the Vets at all.
> >
> > If you still wish to give, choose a site that has high ratings and do n=
=3D
ot
> earmark your funds only to Japan.
> >
> > http :// www . charitywatch .org
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Gaydos
> >
> >
> >
> > http ://home.comcast.net/~ frankgaydos
> /index. html
> >
> > Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will
> >
> > take you everywhere. Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > Please don=3D92t.
> >
> > We went through this after the Haiti earthquake, and all of the argumen=
=3D
ts
> which applied there apply to Japan as well. Earmarking funds is a really
> good way of hobbling relief organizations and ensuring that they have to
> leave large piles of money unspent in one place while facing urgent needs=
=3D
in
> other places. And as Matthew Bishop and Michael Green said last year, we =
=3D
are
> all better at responding to human suffering caused by dramatic, telegenic
> emergencies than to the much greater loss of life from ongoing hunger,
> disease and conflict. That often results in a mess of uncoordinated NGOs
> parachuting in to emergency areas with lots of good intentions, where a
> strategic official sector response would be much more effective. Meanwhil=
=3D
e,
> the smaller and less visible emergencies where NGOs can do the most good =
=3D
are
> left unfunded.
> >
> > In the specific case of Japan, there=3D92s all the more reason not to d=
on=3D
ate
> money. Japan is a wealthy country which is responding to the disaster, am=
=3D
ong
> other things, by printing hundreds of billions of dollars=3D92 worth of n=
ew
> money. Money is not the bottleneck here: if money is needed, Japan can ra=
=3D
ise
> it. On top of that, it=3D92s still extremely unclear how or where organiz=
at=3D
ions
> like globalgiving intend on spending the money that they=3D92re currently
> raising for Japan =3D97 so far we=3D92re just told that the money =3D93wi=
ll hel=3D
p
> survivors and victims get necessary services,=3D94 which is basically cod=
e =3D
for
> =3D93we have no idea what we=3D92re going to do with the money, but we=3D=
92ll p=3D
robably
> think of something.=3D94
> >
> >
> >
> > Also most charities are corrupt, top heavy with bureaucrats with a tiny
> percentage of money actually going to the victims.
> >
> > I urge you to do your homework before you give.
> >
> > Check out this site. I was shocked by how many supposed charities for
> veterans are not helping the Vets at all.
> >
> > If you still wish to give, choose a site that has high ratings and do n=
=3D
ot
> earmark your funds only to Japan.
> >
> > http :// www . charitywatch .org
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank Gaydos
> >
> >
> >
> > http ://home.comcast.net/~ frankgaydos
> /index. html
> >
> > Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will
> >
> > take you everywhere. Albert Einstein
>
--=3D20
Randall in Atlanta
http://wrandallmoody.com
Snail Scott on fri 18 mar 11
On Mar 17, 2011, at 1:32 PM, gwynneth rixon wrote:
> You could donate to the Red Cross who have sent teams there, also those
> doing international search and rescue.
> Also MSF (I think that has a different name in the USA...
MSF (Medicins sans Frontiers) is called
'Doctors without Borders' in the US.
-Snail
Lee on sat 19 mar 11
I can personally vouch for Ken Matsuzaki and the Mashiko Pottery
Foundation. We are way behind what was raised for Haiti and the
Tusnami in Indonesia.
I made a static page with the information here:
http://potters.blogspot.com/p/relief.html
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
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