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flameware, bat pins, professional potters making pots

updated sat 26 mar 11

 

Richard Aerni on thu 24 mar 11


A potpourri, sorry, don't want to clutter up the list...

Robbie Lobell from Washington state is making flameware for sale, I =3D
believe. Karen Karnes bestowed her recipes on her some years ago, and =3D
Robbie has taken them and is (last I saw) making a line of very =3D
attractive stovetop pots. However, I would imagine there are lots of =3D
caveats in the flameware world...step one is that your formulae would =3D
need to be mixed very exactly...step two is that your firings and =3D
processes would need to be carefully controlled...step three is that you =
=3D
need to get a huge commercial liability insurance policy and make sure =3D
your personal belongings are untouchable in a lawsuit. Don't mean to =3D
scare anyone, but I (and my consumers) would rather be safe than sorry. =
=3D
If you are thinking about doing flameware, read the literature on the =3D
subject, talk to the practitioners, don't simply rely on clayart advice. =
=3D
=3D20

Bat pins...what's the controversy? If you need them, use them, if you =3D
don't, don't. That should be the end of it. If you don't know whether =3D
or not you need them, don't worry about it. If you know you don't need =3D
them, don't try to discourage those whose processes may be enhanced by =3D
their use. Clayart should not be a bully pulpit, with the emphasis on =3D
"bully." =3D20

As for how many pots a professional makes...who knows? Every =3D
professional is different, with different marketplaces, different price =3D
points, different marketing strategies. What I know is that I am always =
=3D
busy, doing something. There is so much more to being a potter than =3D
simply sitting at a wheel (in my case). =3D20

What I'm telling folks to do with this post is not to listen to people =3D
who "tell you how to do it." Lots of folks have agendas, are =3D
short-sighted, don't see the big picture (including myself). If you =3D
have an idea, explore it...

Best to all,
Richard Aerni
Rochester, NY

Lee on thu 24 mar 11


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Richard Aerni wr=
=3D
ote:
> A potpourri, sorry, don't want to clutter up the list...
>
> Robbie Lobell from Washington state is making flameware for sale, I belie=
=3D
ve.
>Karen Karnes

Please, common sense and do much testing.

R E C I P E S

Flameware Clay Body

Spodumene 30
Fire Clay (Hawthorne) 25
Ball Clay (OM4) 25
G-200 Feldspar 10
Pyrax (HS) 10
Grog (48 mesh) 5
Red Iron Oxide 1.75 =3D96 2

Interior Glaze =3D96 Ann=3D92s Kaki

G-200 43
Flint 19
EPK 5.5
Talc 5.5
Whiting 6.5
Bone Ash 9
Red Iron Oxide 9.5
Bentonite 2

Exterior Glaze =3D96 Karen Karnes=3D92 Y Glaze

G-200 45
Flint 12
EPK 10
Whiting 26
Bentonite 2
Titanium 8
Soda Mixture
2 lbs soda ash
1 gallon very hot tap water

Dissolve and mix well with hand-held milkshake mixer just before
beginning to charge
the kiln.Put into garden sprayer (have several extra
wands on hand in case of meltdowns)
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue

Ric Swenson on fri 25 mar 11


Richard,

Good post.

I agree with you.

Insurance.


Flameware is common here in China...some glazed....most not. But, then ag=
ain, individual lawsuits are rare in China....and maybe people just follow =
common sense instructions?

I fiddled with flameware for humidifiers that we (at Bennington Potters) m=
ade for Vermont Castings. They eventually went to cast iron enamelled humid=
ifiers. With the flameware body there were too many abusive users that do =
'stupid stuff'....like...let it run dry then they pour cold water into the =
humidifier while it sits on a hot woodstove, for instance.

The Swedes make some nice flameware.

Batt pins? oy. I have used every kind of batt. The ones in the studio her=
e are saggar clay...high fired. Tough as nails...easy to attach to the whe=
el head with slurry or a flat plate of clay. Most of the 50,000 potters in=
JDZ have never heard of batt pins . When I started (1967) in undergrad sc=
hool..we used plaster batts...also had pot lifters (oy, again) When I bui=
lt my Anchorage studio in 1977-8 I had a Brent CXC with batt pins. Used ma=
sonite which worked fine. Also used large formica sink cutouts....varathan=
e on the particle board periodically. Whatever works is good IMHO.... sp=
lash pan ? or a towel in your lap?

Ric




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> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 07:13:51 -0400
> From: raerni@ROCHESTER.RR.COM
> Subject: Flameware, bat pins, professional potters making pots
> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>
> A potpourri, sorry, don't want to clutter up the list...
>
> Robbie Lobell from Washington state is making flameware for sale, I belie=
ve. Karen Karnes bestowed her recipes on her some years ago, and Robbie has=
taken them and is (last I saw) making a line of very attractive stovetop p=
ots. However, I would imagine there are lots of caveats in the flameware wo=
rld...step one is that your formulae would need to be mixed very exactly...=
step two is that your firings and processes would need to be carefully cont=
rolled...step three is that you need to get a huge commercial liability ins=
urance policy and make sure your personal belongings are untouchable in a l=
awsuit. Don't mean to scare anyone, but I (and my consumers) would rather b=
e safe than sorry. If you are thinking about doing flameware, read the lite=
rature on the subject, talk to the practitioners, don't simply rely on clay=
art advice.
>
> Bat pins...what's the controversy? If you need them, use them, if you don=
't, don't. That should be the end of it. If you don't know whether or not y=
ou need them, don't worry about it. If you know you don't need them, don't =
try to discourage those whose processes may be enhanced by their use. Claya=
rt should not be a bully pulpit, with the emphasis on "bully."
>
> As for how many pots a professional makes...who knows? Every professional=
is different, with different marketplaces, different price points, differe=
nt marketing strategies. What I know is that I am always busy, doing someth=
ing. There is so much more to being a potter than simply sitting at a wheel=
(in my case).
>
> What I'm telling folks to do with this post is not to listen to people wh=
o "tell you how to do it." Lots of folks have agendas, are short-sighted, d=
on't see the big picture (including myself). If you have an idea, explore i=
t...
>
> Best to all,
> Richard Aerni
> Rochester, NY