Frances Howard on fri 1 apr 11
This is just an idle thought prompted by the latest attempted scam on =3D
Elisabeth Maurland. I just wondered how many potters do sell overseas =3D
and how the sales are arrived at? I suppose some sell quite a lot but =3D
most don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t sell any. (I=3DE2=3D80=3D99m not including sales =
between =3D
the US and Canada).
I would guess they are sales arrived at by people visiting pottery =3D
shops and wanting pots shipped back home or else connections made at =3D
trade shows. All very different from these vague emails from who knows =
=3D
where. Are there in fact any reputable trades made in this way? If so =3D
I would think their introductions are very different, they would ask for =
=3D
catalogues to be sent, mention people either side might know, produce =3D
references and so on. I would think this is fairly rare actually, only =3D
involving the really big names who have definite procedures to be =3D
followed.
If people knew the way most legitimate sales are arrived at perhaps that =
=3D
would help others who are not sure of correct procedures.
No one has ever asked me for my pots, but Mr Mervyn King, governor of =3D
the bank of England no less, last week asked me to share in his loot.
Frances Howard
John Hesselberth on sat 2 apr 11
On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Frances Howard wrote:
> This is just an idle thought prompted by the latest attempted scam on =3D
Elisabeth Maurland. I just wondered how many potters do sell overseas =3D
and how the sales are arrived at?=3D20
Hi Frances,
Ron and I sell "Mastering Cone 6 Glazes" internationally and I also sell =
=3D
"GlazeMaster" internationally. In our case we sell from a simple =3D
shopping cart on the masteringglazes.com web site with payment through =3D
PayPal or international money order. Probably 99% use PayPal because =3D
they handle the currency exchange automatically--getting an =3D
international money order in U.S. $ is a pain.
We have shipped over 500 books and/or software packages internationally =3D
over the years to between 25 and 30 different countries and not yet had =3D
a problem. The biggest time consumer is filling out the customs paper =3D
work, but after you have done a few that goes pretty quickly.
I wouldn't worry much about someone ordering a specific piece of work =3D
from your web site. It is when they want to order your "product" or want =
=3D
a large number of pieces or ask for their shipping agent to pick up the =3D
product that the red flags should go up. I get the usual number of those =
=3D
inquiries also and I never bother to respond.
Regards,
John
John Hesselberth
http://www.frogpondpottery.com
http://www.masteringglazes.com
Hank Murrow on sat 2 apr 11
On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Frances Howard wrote:
> I just wondered how many potters do sell overseas and how the sales =3D
are arrived at?=3D20
Dear Frances;
Thanks to a Tea Master in Tokyo who likes my work, I have been referred =3D
to customers in Japan for my Tea and Sake wares. When I visited him in =3D
Tokyo, he showed me magazines with articles that mentioned my work with =3D
pics, etc. Recently, I sent a chawan to a Japanese customer for =3D
$500...... so it can be done, but not without a blessing from someone =3D
influential.
Cheers, Hank in Eugene=3D
Stephani Stephenson on sat 2 apr 11
i have done a couple of overseas orders. the contact and communication is=
=3D
no
different than any other order. in one case money was wired. there are
papers to fill out with regard to shipping, international bills of lading=
=3D
,
duties and fees.. you have to put a value on the shipment, and there will=
=3D
be
an import fee assessed possibly.. those fees, and it has been a few years=
=3D
so
i am foggy on the details, should be covered by the customer... with one
customer, they dealt with shipping and customs so thankfully ,all i had t=
=3D
o
do was collect in US dollars , fill out the customs and international bil=
=3D
l
of lading forms and had the money wired prior to shipping.=3D20
in another case, the customer paid with a check in us funds...nothing was=
=3D
shipped till it was received and cleared. yet somehow the customer picke=
=3D
d
up or received the order without paying the customs fee, even though he w=
=3D
as
to be responsible for it. if the recipient does not pay the import fee=3D2=
0=3D
,guess what, the fee reverts to you, the shipper, so watch yourself on th=
=3D
at
one. that was via fedex international and the import fee/dut was $200. ou=
=3D
ch.
if you are shipping anything sizeable, get to know the laws. also , ther=
=3D
e
are some rules with regard to packing...for example, in some cases, you
cannot use wooden pallets for international shipping, but must use plasti=
=3D
c
ones...due to possible insect or disease in wood pallets.
i would not do it unless there is a personal connection, or you know the
rules for international selling. especially don't do anything until you h=
=3D
ave
had a dialogue. Ellisabeth's situation immediately smacked of a scam.
Stephani Stephenson
ivor and olive lewis on sun 3 apr 11
I am proud to be one of John's overseas customers. Bought the Glaze program
just after Christmas. No hassles.
Olive recently bought wool of a type that is not from the back of an ozzie
merino sheep from a company in Scotland. Only glitch was long delivery time=
.
Olive asked for airmail delivery. The vendor sent the parcel surface mail,
post free of charge. A flurry of e-mails sorted things out and the parcel
came in last week.
Be sure to research the vendor.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis,
REDHILL,
South Australia
Des & Jan Howard on sun 3 apr 11
Frances
The scam requests are cyber binned via MailWasher
before my email program downloads it.
Our overseas sales have been:
Visitors sending/taking gifts overseas to
friends/relatives.
Visitors taking orders overseas for friends/relatives.
Overseas residents requesting additional items post visit.
Visitors requesting purchases be sent overseas for them
to avoid carry-on or baggage hassles.
Des
On 2/04/2011 9:47 AM, Frances Howard wrote:
> This is just an idle thought prompted by the latest attempted scam on Eli=
sabeth Maurland.
> I just wondered how many potters do sell overseas and how the sales are a=
rrived at?
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850
02 6373 6419
www.luepottery.hwy.com.au
-32.656072 149.840624
John Baymore on sun 3 apr 11
Frances,
Like Hank, I sell a bit in Japan through various venues. (Solo show slated=
=3D
there in late May/June.) The difference in valuation of clay work makes i=
=3D
t well worthwhile. Shipping cost from the US is of course high. If you u=
=3D
se the right importing codes, import duties are low to non-existant on cera=
=3D
mic art. But as Hank so accurately mentions, Japan is a bit of a "closed" =
=3D
society....... you have to be fortunate enough to develop relationships wit=
=3D
h people there to even have the doors opened at all, let alone be sucessful=
=3D
. Like Hank, I too am fortunate to have many friends in Japan.
best,
........................john
John Baymore
River Bend Pottery
Wilton, NH USA
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 09:15:56 -0700
rom: Hank Murrow
ubject: Re: Do many clayarters sell work overseas?
On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Frances Howard wrote:
> I just wondered how many potters do sell overseas and how the sales =3D3=
D
re arrived at?=3D3D20
Dear Frances;
Thanks to a Tea Master in Tokyo who likes my work, I have been referred =3D=
3D
o customers in Japan for my Tea and Sake wares. When I visited him in =3D3D
okyo, he showed me magazines with articles that mentioned my work with =3D3=
D
ics, etc. Recently, I sent a chawan to a Japanese customer for =3D3D
500...... so it can be done, but not without a blessing from someone =3D3D
nfluential.
Cheers, Hank in Eugene=3D3D
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