gary navarre on fri 15 apr 11
Hey Folks,
Somewhere along the way I acquired about 50lbs. of Amaco Indian Red Clay F=
lower #67 and wonder how it was used, how much heat it can handle before it=
becomes a glaze, and is it ugly as a glaze?
Oh ya, TIA and stay in there eh?
Gary Navarre
Navarre Pottery
Navarre Enterprises
Norway, Michigan, USA
http://www.NavarrePottery.etsy.com
http://www.youtube.com/GindaUP
http://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/
Rogier Donker on sat 16 apr 11
Hey Gary,
#67 matures at cone 05 if fired to stoneware temps it turns into a
glaze.
Rogier
P.S. See us on the web at http://www.donkerstudio.org
Rimas VisGirda on sun 17 apr 11
Got the following, edited somewhat, from a potter that uses #67 regularly:=
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=3D0A=3D0A"I fire to 2 as the XL plates rip in half at 3=3DE2=3D80=3DA6..th=
ose tests =3D
we did had some bloating at cone 5 and they looked like a brownie at cone 9=
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, but not glaze. Dee always talked about the nightmare of lowfire, really =
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it was the white that melted at cone 9."=3D0A=3D0AI believe that #67 is mos=
tly =3D
Redart, my experience with Redart when I was teaching, which I used to use =
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straight with some (10-20%) sand, is that it looks like a brownie at c/10 r=
=3D
eduction (picks up kiln wash) and stable dark chocolate brown at c/10 elect=
=3D
ric/oxidation, neither melts into a glaze... Low-fire white talc bodies suc=
=3D
k by all accounts... -Rimas
Rimas VisGirda on sun 17 apr 11
Hey you can use copper washers for that, they have a nice heft, are easy to=
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grasp and can take a great patina. -Rimas=3D0A=3D0A--- On Sun, 4/17/11, ga=
ry n=3D
avarre wrote:=3D0A=3D0A> I was wondering if=
it =3D
might be something like Redart.=3D0A> Maybe I can use it for pit firing som=
e =3D
ceiling fan cord=3D0A> pullers.=3D0A> =3D0A> Gary Navarre=3D0A> Navarre Pot=
tery=3D0A>=3D
Navarre Enterprises=3D0A> Norway, Michigan, USA=3D0A> http://www.NavarrePo=
tter=3D
y.etsy.com=3D0A> http://www.youtube.com/GindaUP=3D0A> http://public.fotki.c=
om/G=3D
indaUP/=3D0A> =3D0A> =3D0A> --- On Sun, 4/17/11, Rimas VisGirda HOO.CO=3D
M>=3D0A> wrote:=3D0A> =3D0A> > From: Rimas VisGirda =3D0=
A> > Sub=3D
ject: [Clayart] Amaco Indian Red #67=3D0A> > To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=
=3D0A>=3D
> Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 1:09 PM=3D0A> > Got the following, edited =
so=3D
mewhat,=3D0A> > from a potter that uses #67 regularly:=3D0A> > =3D0A> > "I =
fire t=3D
o 2 as the XL plates rip in half at=3D0A> 3=3DE2=3D80=3DA6..those=3D0A> > t=
ests we di=3D
d had some bloating at cone 5 and they=3D0A> looked=3D0A> > like a brownie =
at c=3D
one 9,=3DC2=3DA0 but not glaze. Dee always=3D0A> > talked about the nightma=
re of =3D
lowfire, really it was=3D0A> the=3D0A> > white that melted at cone 9."=3D0A=
> > =3D
=3D0A> > I believe that #67 is mostly Redart, my experience=3D0A> with=3D0A=
> > Re=3D
dart when I was teaching, which I used to use=3D0A> straight=3D0A> > with s=
ome =3D
(10-20%) sand, is that it looks like a=3D0A> brownie at=3D0A> > c/10 reduct=
ion =3D
(picks up kiln wash) and stable dark=3D0A> > chocolate brown at c/10 electr=
ic=3D
/oxidation, neither=3D0A> melts=3D0A> > into a glaze... Low-fire white talc=
bod=3D
ies suck by=3D0A> all=3D0A> > accounts... -Rimas=3D0A> >=3D0A>
gary navarre on sun 17 apr 11
Thanks Rimas, =3D0A=3D0A I was wondering if it might be something like Reda=
rt. =3D
Maybe I can use it for pit firing some ceiling fan cord pullers.=3D0A=3D0AG=
ary =3D
Navarre=3D0ANavarre Pottery=3D0ANavarre Enterprises=3D0ANorway, Michigan, U=
SA=3D0Ah=3D
ttp://www.NavarrePottery.etsy.com=3D0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/GindaUP=3D0Aht=
tp:/=3D
/public.fotki.com/GindaUP/=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A--- On Sun, 4/17/11, Rimas VisGird=
a 1942@YAHOO.COM> wrote:=3D0A=3D0A> From: Rimas VisGirda =
=3D0A> =3D
Subject: [Clayart] Amaco Indian Red #67=3D0A> To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG=
=3D0A=3D
> Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 1:09 PM=3D0A> Got the following, edited som=
ew=3D
hat,=3D0A> from a potter that uses #67 regularly:=3D0A> =3D0A> "I fire to 2=
as th=3D
e XL plates rip in half at 3=3DE2=3D80=3DA6..those=3D0A> tests we did had s=
ome bloa=3D
ting at cone 5 and they looked=3D0A> like a brownie at cone 9,=3DC2=3DA0 bu=
t not =3D
glaze. Dee always=3D0A> talked about the nightmare of lowfire, really it wa=
s =3D
the=3D0A> white that melted at cone 9."=3D0A> =3D0A> I believe that #67 is =
mostly=3D
Redart, my experience with=3D0A> Redart when I was teaching, which I used =
to=3D
use straight=3D0A> with some (10-20%) sand, is that it looks like a browni=
e =3D
at=3D0A> c/10 reduction (picks up kiln wash) and stable dark=3D0A> chocolat=
e br=3D
own at c/10 electric/oxidation, neither melts=3D0A> into a glaze... Low-fir=
e =3D
white talc bodies suck by all=3D0A> accounts... -Rimas=3D0A>
gary navarre on mon 18 apr 11
Ya man, but I get 5 bucks a piece for these...=3D0A=3D0Ahttp://public.fotki=
.com=3D
/GindaUP/ca/kpap/uphfr/unloading-u-p-hobag-5.html##media=3D0A=3D0A... and I=
don=3D
't think the guys that bought them are gonna hang them from a ceiling fan. =
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Not bad for about 15g of clay and 3 minutes to make. Once years ago I could=
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make 36 in an hour but I've gotten lazy over the years and repetitious pro=
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duction now reminds me of time spent in the factory anodizing Mag-Lite part=
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s. I don't want to move that fast anymore so I guess I won't make a heck of=
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a lot. Hell it's all I could do to throw three 3lb. bowls tonight and I wa=
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nted to make lids for jars. Maybe I will need some larger bowls for the nex=
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t sale. =3D0A =3D0AGary Navarre=3D0ANavarre Pottery=3D0ANavarre Enterprises=
=3D0ANorwa=3D
y, Michigan, USA=3D0Ahttp://www.NavarrePottery.etsy.com=3D0Ahttp://www.yout=
ube.=3D
com/GindaUP=3D0Ahttp://public.fotki.com/GindaUP/=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A--- On Sun, =
4/17/11,=3D
Rimas VisGirda wrote:=3D0A=3D0A> From: Rimas VisGirda =
1942@yahoo.com>=3D0A> Subject: Re: [Clayart] Amaco Indian Red #67=3D0A> To:=
Cla=3D
yart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG, "gary navarre" =3D0A> =
Da=3D
te: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 6:32 PM=3D0A> Hey you can use copper washers fo=
r=3D
=3D0A> that, they have a nice heft, are easy to grasp and can take=3D0A> a =
grea=3D
t patina. -Rimas=3D0A> =3D0A> --- On Sun, 4/17/11, gary navarre erpr=3D
ises@yahoo.com>=3D0A> wrote:=3D0A> =3D0A> >=3DA0 I was wondering if it migh=
t be som=3D
ething like=3D0A> Redart.=3D0A> > Maybe I can use it for pit firing some ce=
ilin=3D
g fan=3D0A> cord=3D0A> > pullers.=3D0A
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