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Lee on thu 26 may 11


On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Lili Krakowski w=
=3D
rote:

> Then . =3DA0 =3DA0Lee tells us "Knowledge is always preferable to ignoran=
ce. =3D
"-- facile and dead wrong. =3DA0I would much rather be ignorant

Lili,

Ignorance produces illogical fear. Fear produces servitude.
These are the primary characteristics of the weak and will be the
downfall of "The home of the Brave, the land of the Free", if we don't
snap out of it. We certainly puzzle the rest of the world.

.
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue

Lili Krakowski on thu 26 may 11


We no are plunged into one of those cyclical debates we have on basic =3D
issues.

Paul writes:"... to pretend that there is only the dumb chest thumpers =3D
and then the careful (and by inference the intelligent ones) is a false =3D
dichotomy. "=3D20

I never used the word "intelligent". As a matter of fact, IMO, far =3D
more intelligent people take grave risks than stupid ones. Paul G. =3D
inter al. may be too young to remember. But in the age of Aldous =3D
Huxley and Tim Leary --bright guys, they--lots of college students fried =
=3D
their brains with peyote and LSD. NOT because they were =3D
un-intelligent, but because they had not been dissuaded from risk =3D
taking. They thought themselves too smart and superior to need to be =3D
careful...

In fact those so self-assured as to avoidable take risks, making =3D
flameware, using lead, and so one--are certainly intelligent...Stupid =3D
people do not have such hubris.

Then . Lee tells us "Knowledge is always preferable to ignorance. "-- =
=3D
facile and dead wrong. I would much rather be ignorant about disasters, =
=3D
NOT experience tragedy than to have the knowledge first hand. I have =3D
had my share....spare me knowledge! I am sure the people of Joplin were =3D
infinitely better off not experiencing, only reading about tornadoes, =3D
than they are now with full knowledge!

I maintain a stance of extreme carefulness....Especially on ClayArt =3D
which ALSO is read by high schoolers, amateurs, beginners, and, people =3D
who "do" clay as psychotherapy.

=3D20






Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage

paul gerhold on sat 28 may 11


Dear Lili,

You should maintain a stance of extreme carefulness in reading posts. If
you did you would notice that I did not attribute to you

the term intelligent but rather said "and by inference the intelligent
ones". Entirely different.

Also please give your source for " lots of students fried their brains with
peyote and LSD. Been there and done that and never knew of any bad trips
despite the media hype. And no we did not think ourselves too smart and to=
o
superior to need to be careful. Curious, yes and adventuresome yes. Also di=
d
free climbing, motorcycle riding, ran large engineering departments and
then became potter.

Oh and by the way I am 63 and do know whereof I speak.

Paul



On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Lili Krakowski wr=
ote:

> We no are plunged into one of those cyclical debates we have on basic
> issues.
>
> Paul writes:"... to pretend that there is only the dumb chest thumpers a=
nd
> then the careful (and by inference the intelligent ones) is a false
> dichotomy. "
>
> I never used the word "intelligent". As a matter of fact, IMO, far more
> intelligent people take grave risks than stupid ones. Paul G. inter al. =
may
> be too young to remember. But in the age of Aldous Huxley and Tim Leary
> --bright guys, they--lots of college students fried their brains with pey=
ote
> and LSD. NOT because they were un-intelligent, but because they had no=
t
> been dissuaded from risk taking. They thought themselves too smart and
> superior to need to be careful...
>
> In fact those so self-assured as to avoidable take risks, making
> flameware, using lead, and so one--are certainly intelligent...Stupid peo=
ple
> do not have such hubris.
>
> Then . Lee tells us "Knowledge is always preferable to ignorance. "--
> facile and dead wrong. I would much rather be ignorant about disasters, =
NOT
> experience tragedy than to have the knowledge first hand. I have had my
> share....spare me knowledge! I am sure the people of Joplin were infinite=
ly
> better off not experiencing, only reading about tornadoes, than they are
> now with full knowledge!
>
> I maintain a stance of extreme carefulness....Especially on ClayArt which
> ALSO is read by high schoolers, amateurs, beginners, and, people who "do=
"
> clay as psychotherapy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lili Krakowski
> Be of good courage
>

Lee on sat 28 may 11


Sparing yourself from unwholesome experience is not the same as
willful ignorance. So many of our modern problems are due to willful
ignorance: pretending a situation does not exist because we are not
aware of it.


--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/

=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue