tony clennell on sat 25 jun 11
While in Castorville, TX we went into a butcher shop that sold really nice
old pots. Of course the old French one I liked was $450. All the pots were
old lead glazed pieces from France and Oaxaca, Mexico. I'm drinking my
coffee this morning from a little old lead glazed Oaxaca tea cup that I
bought. The handle is so small I have to pinch it as I can't get my finger
thru it. I love this little cup! It has a few chips and lime pops but that
just adds beauty to this little treasure. I am really attracted to the
Oaxaca drip ware as it takes me back to my aunt and uncle's lead glazed
earthenware and the pottery of my youth. Sheila introduced 04 e-ware to her
students and they are loving it. I gave Gay a pallette of colours for 04
that I am hoping she will run with. She is taking Johnnnie Britt's Glaze
course in Castorville in August. I hope she will share her testing results
with me on her return. Gay and I looked at pots of the Tang Dynasty in the
San Antonio Museum of Art that are like Oaxacan dripware at it's best. The
Oaxacan is much more garish but I see so much possibility for me to move to
being an urban potter.
Years ago I would have only looked at the Chinese celedons in the SOMA. Thi=
s
time it was the e-ware that was my eye candy.
Is it possible that we return to our roots as we age?
Tc
Randall Moody on sat 25 jun 11
oooo you are drinking lead!!! You are going to die!!! DIEEE!!!! :)
--
Randall in Atlanta
http://wrandallmoody.com
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:10 AM, tony clennell wro=
te:
> While in Castorville, TX we went into a butcher shop that sold really nic=
e
> old pots. Of course the old French one I liked was $450. All the pots wer=
e
> old lead glazed pieces from France and Oaxaca, Mexico. I'm drinking my
> coffee this morning from a little old lead glazed Oaxaca tea cup that I
> bought. The handle is so small I have to pinch it as I can't get my finge=
r
> thru it. I love this little cup! It has a few chips and lime pops but tha=
t
> just adds beauty to this little treasure. I am really attracted to the
> Oaxaca drip ware as it takes me back to my aunt and uncle's lead glazed
> earthenware and the pottery of my youth. Sheila introduced 04 e-ware to h=
er
> students and they are loving it. I gave Gay a pallette of colours for 04
> that I am hoping she will run with. She is taking Johnnnie Britt's Glaze
> course in Castorville in August. I hope she will share her testing result=
s
> with me on her return. Gay and I looked at pots of the Tang Dynasty in th=
e
> San Antonio Museum of Art that are like Oaxacan dripware at it's best. Th=
e
> Oaxacan is much more garish but I see so much possibility for me to move =
to
> being an urban potter.
> Years ago I would have only looked at the Chinese celedons in the SOMA.
> This
> time it was the e-ware that was my eye candy.
> Is it possible that we return to our roots as we age?
> Tc
>
tony clennell on sun 26 jun 11
Randall: Hardly think so. Been using lead glazed e-ware all my life. I even
drink well water outta the hose and use the 10 second rule when I drop my
food on the floor.
It's late as I just got home from a delightful evening of live theatre with
my daughter. She is a labour organizer and had a bus of migrant workers go
see John Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath. A very special evening for me and for
those workers. So I'm winding down having a nice Maker's Mark with one ice
cube in my Oaxaca tea cup. Can't seem to git enuff of that cup these days.
Cheers,
tony
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Randall Moody wro=
te:
> oooo you are drinking lead!!! You are going to die!!! DIEEE!!!! :)
>
>
>
> --
> Randall in Atlanta
> http://wrandallmoody.com
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:10 AM, tony clennell w=
rote:
>
>> While in Castorville, TX we went into a butcher shop that sold really ni=
ce
>> old pots. Of course the old French one I liked was $450. All the pots we=
re
>> old lead glazed pieces from France and Oaxaca, Mexico. I'm drinking my
>> coffee this morning from a little old lead glazed Oaxaca tea cup that I
>> bought. The handle is so small I have to pinch it as I can't get my fing=
er
>> thru it. I love this little cup! It has a few chips and lime pops but th=
at
>> just adds beauty to this little treasure. I am really attracted to the
>> Oaxaca drip ware as it takes me back to my aunt and uncle's lead glazed
>> earthenware and the pottery of my youth. Sheila introduced 04 e-ware to
>> her
>> students and they are loving it. I gave Gay a pallette of colours for 04
>> that I am hoping she will run with. She is taking Johnnnie Britt's Glaze
>> course in Castorville in August. I hope she will share her testing resul=
ts
>> with me on her return. Gay and I looked at pots of the Tang Dynasty in t=
he
>> San Antonio Museum of Art that are like Oaxacan dripware at it's best. T=
he
>> Oaxacan is much more garish but I see so much possibility for me to move
>> to
>> being an urban potter.
>> Years ago I would have only looked at the Chinese celedons in the SOMA.
>> This
>> time it was the e-ware that was my eye candy.
>> Is it possible that we return to our roots as we age?
>> Tc
>>
>
>
>
>
tony clennell on sun 26 jun 11
Lee: Your Swat bowls are really lovely although I hate that big fat flat
foot ring. Also the pots you showed of the Joman period are nice. Sorry man
but my fav is the Jomon e-ware and you and Shimy come second and third. Hey=
=3D
,
not bad company to keep!
thanx for the eye candy
tc
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Lee wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:18 AM, tony clennell
> wrote:
> > Randall: Hardly think so. Been using lead glazed e-ware all my life.
>
> I have some cool Swat bowls from Pakistan that are lead glazed. I
> simply don't drink orange juice out of them. When I use them as
> salad bowls for taking salad to a friend's, I wipe the inside with a
> coat of olive oil.
>
> http://networkedblogs.com/jFW4Y?ref=3D3Dnf
>
> Tony,
>
> An interest in traditional, unglazed earthenware seems
> natural for wood firers to me. Jomon is fascinating. Here is an
> old Chinese earthenware pot that has inspired me:
>
>
> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=3D3Da.252369422056.146436.55072705=
6&=3D
l=3D3Dd6622d5f2b
> --
> Lee Love in Minneapolis
> http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
>
> "Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97t=
hat is, =3D
"The
> land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
> within itself." -- John O'Donohue
>
Edouard Bastarache on sun 26 jun 11
"On the other hand small doses of bacteria help us develop immunity and
that is a
good thing.
Patty Kaliher"
That is what french kisses are for.
Hehehehehe.
Gis,
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
http://edouardbastaracheblogs2.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
http://blogsalbertbastarache.blogspot.com/
James Freeman on sun 26 jun 11
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:18 AM, tony clennell wro=
te:
I even
drink well water outta the hose and use the 10 second rule when I drop my
food on the floor.
Tony...
It is the 5 second rule, not 10!!! And even at 5 seconds, you still have t=
o
blow on the dropped food to sterilize it. Randall is right; you are a
goner!
Been nice knowing you.
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
Lee on sun 26 jun 11
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:18 AM, tony clennell w=
=3D
rote:
> Randall: Hardly think so. Been using lead glazed e-ware all my life.
I have some cool Swat bowls from Pakistan that are lead glazed. I
simply don't drink orange juice out of them. When I use them as
salad bowls for taking salad to a friend's, I wipe the inside with a
coat of olive oil.
http://networkedblogs.com/jFW4Y?ref=3D3Dnf
Tony,
An interest in traditional, unglazed earthenware seems
natural for wood firers to me. Jomon is fascinating. Here is an
old Chinese earthenware pot that has inspired me:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=3D3Da.252369422056.146436.550727056&=
l=3D
=3D3Dd6622d5f2b
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Patty Kaliher on sun 26 jun 11
Mythbusters busted the 5 second rule myth. The bacteria picked up from the
floor is the same amount instantly as 5 or even 10 seconds later. They
tried lots of scenarios than grew the resultant bacteria in petri dishes.
The little nasties do not race to the food as fast as possible. On the
other hand small doses of bacteria help us develop immunity and that is a
good thing.
Patty Kaliher
Tony...
It is the 5 second rule, not 10!!! And even at 5 seconds, you still have t=
o
blow on the dropped food to sterilize it. Randall is right; you are a
goner!
Been nice knowing you.
...James
James Freeman
Kathy Forer on sun 26 jun 11
On Jun 26, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Patty Kaliher wrote:
> On the
> other hand small doses of bacteria help us develop immunity and that is a
> good thing.
My beloved teacher who lived quite well until age 98 had a recipe for Longe=
v=3D
ity Soup that included onions, garlic, whatever happened to be in the refri=
g=3D
erator at the time and, to my horror and bemusement, the fly that happened =
t=3D
o buzz over the bubbling pot.=3D20
I couldn't do it myself, but then I'm apostate.=3D20
Kathy Forer
Snail Scott on mon 27 jun 11
On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Patty Kaliher wrote:
> Mythbusters busted the 5 second rule myth.
That was never a real myth! It is (and always has
been) a joke, nothing more. I've never known
anyone who actually believed it, even when
claiming to invoke it in practice.
I love the 'Mythbusters' guys, but sometimes they
scrape bottom. Next they'll be checking whether
Elvis really was seen at that 7-11 in Kalamazoo..
-Snail
marci Boskie's Mama =3D^..^=3D on mon 27 jun 11
>tony clennell said:
>Subject: Re: Old Oaxaca teacup
>
>Randall: Hardly think so. Been using lead glazed e-ware all my life. I eve=
n
>drink well water outta the hose and use the 10 second rule when I drop my
>food on the floor.
I have a friend who learned to paint china when she was 10 years
old. Ruby Gayle delighted in telling everyone how she has eaten every
meal since shortly after she got married ( in 1934) off of her hand
painted china . The dear lady passed away last year at the age of
95... sharp as a tack but suffering from complications of a broken hip.
marci the chinapainter
tony clennell on mon 27 jun 11
Lee: Thanx! What a lovely video clip. It is prove positive of very nicely
prepared plastic clay, a slow wheel and skilled thrower. I love to see how
he uses his hands as ribs. I hope Gay Judson watches this clip. She is
making so very nice pedestal bowls. It never tires me to watch a good
thrower. No big rush, just slow turnin'.
tc
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Lee wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:25 PM, tony clennell
> wrote:
> > Lee: Your Swat bowls are really lovely although I hate that big fat fla=
=3D
t
> > foot ring.
>
> They all have this foot. Check this out Tony. Video gives some
> insight into their thrown foot:
>
> http://youtu.be/7icu1LKjgbM
>
> > Also the pots you showed of the Joman period are nice. Sorry man
> > but my fav is the Jomon e-ware a
>
> Tony, this is Chinese earthenware at the MIA in town. Usually, the
> old stuff wins hands down.
> --
> Lee Love in Minneapolis
> http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
>
> "Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D97t=
hat is, =3D
"The
> land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
> within itself." -- John O'Donohue
>
Lee on mon 27 jun 11
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 3:25 PM, tony clennell wr=
=3D
ote:
> Lee: Your Swat bowls are really lovely although I hate that big fat flat
> foot ring.
They all have this foot. Check this out Tony. Video gives some
insight into their thrown foot:
http://youtu.be/7icu1LKjgbM
> Also the pots you showed of the Joman period are nice. Sorry man
> but my fav is the Jomon e-ware a
Tony, this is Chinese earthenware at the MIA in town. Usually, the
old stuff wins hands down.
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Vince Pitelka on mon 27 jun 11
Patty Kaliher wrote:
"Mythbusters busted the 5 second rule myth. The bacteria picked up from th=
e
floor is the same amount instantly as 5 or even 10 seconds later. They
tried lots of scenarios than grew the resultant bacteria in petri dishes.
The little nasties do not race to the food as fast as possible. On the
other hand small doses of bacteria help us develop immunity and that is a
good thing.
Hi Patty -
I think that's the point. You have to take Mythbusters with a grain of
salt. Some of what they do is great, and some of it is pure bullshit. If
one is not a fanatical clean-freak, one builds up immunities that would
protect us from those bacteria, and the five second rule (or ten second rul=
e
to some) works fine for us. Parents who are hyper-protective of children
and don't allow them to get dirty do no service to them at all. Those of
use in ceramics, with our hands in dirt every day, have a special advantage=
.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka
Joan Klotz on mon 27 jun 11
In defence of Oaxacan pottery for those who want to stay away from
lead glazes, not all Oaxacan pottery is glazed. For example the
beautiful red earthenware pottery from San Marcos Tlapazola is coated
with a red slip (terra sigillata?) and then burnished before firing,
and I think a similar technique is used for the black San Bartolo
Coyotapec ware. Probably other villages too, I just havn't been
lucky enough to go to them all.
Joan Klotz
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