James Freeman on sat 16 jul 11
My nieces and nephew arrive tomorrow for "Camp Freeman". Last year
they made a bunch of clay treasures, most of which we Raku fired, and
had tons of smoky fun. They want to do it again this year, but
through sloth and procrastination I find myself devoid of Gerstley
Borate, which is the main ingredient in the glaze I used. I do have a
huge quantity of borax, or at least a form of it (sodium octoborate
tetrahydrate, if I recall correctly) left over from building my house
(sold as a log preservative, which I didn't use). Does anyone have
any tried and true Raku glaze recipe that employs borax rather than GB
that they would be willing to share? Thanks for any help you can
provide.
All the best.
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness,
too preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice.=3DA0 I
should not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
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Eric Hansen on mon 18 jul 11
Bass: I have been looking for this for 18 years!! Thanks!!!!
"Oxyde de Baryum, Anhydride Borique
BaO, 0.64 B2O3
750 =3DB0C"
- h a n s e n -
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Edouard Bastarache wr=
=3D
ote:
> Check this out:
> http://smart2000.pagesperso-orange.fr/bore.htm
>
> Gis,
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
> http://edouardbastaracheblogs2.blogspot.com/
> http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
> http://blogsalbertbastarache.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Woof"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
>
>
> James, =3DA0please note that I make a "flip over on their backs dead" ant
> insecticide using
> boric acid, or twenty mule team borax... or what ever boron substance
> (except frits) I have
> on the shelf, loaded into agave syrup to form a paste. They munch it righ=
=3D
t
> down and those who survive long enough to make it back to the nest kill
> their friends and babies as well. =3DA0The other Tetraborate material you
> are/were =3DA0thinking of using is a wood preserving insecticide so be ca=
ut=3D
ious
> and protective of the precious little lives put in your care while you
> have your smokey fun.
>
> Your frit 3195 is a relatively high Boron frit but it also has a good
> percentage of alumina so test to see how this will balance out.
>
> You may wish to add more boron to get the melt you wish; but 3134 is by f=
=3D
ar
> a simple time tested and sure way to go. =3DA0 However you may learn more=
b=3D
y
> setting up your Camp Freeman kitchen and cooking up something new and
> exciting. =3DA0Just don't let the exciting be a trip to the ER because yo=
ur
> little darlins inhaled too much of what ever Borate substance you used. =
=3D
=3DA0You
> don't have to have visible smoke to get messed up from the fumes.
>
>
>
> Some published symptoms of poisoning from Boron compounds include:
> Irritation of the skin and respiratory tract; gastrointestinal;skin
> vascular system and brain, which lead to nausea, vomiting, pain,
> diarrhea, headache and Lethargy.
>
>
>
> In severe case: erythematous and exfoliate rash, unconsciousness,
> respiratory depression, and renal failure. =3DA0 Sound like a fun afterno=
on=3D
???
>
> Teach them first to read the wind and stay up wind!!! A spit wetted finge=
=3D
r
> held up will feel cooler on the up wind side even in the slightest of air
> movment.
>
> David Woof
> __________________________________________
> Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
> =3DA0 Posted by: "James Freeman" jamesfreemanstudio@GMAIL.COM
> =3DA0 Date: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:19 am ((PDT))
>
> Thanks to everyone for the many replies, both on list and off. =3DA0I hav=
e
> a 50# sack of frit 3195 laying around for some unknown reason, so I
> guess that's the way to go. =3DA0Was hoping for a way to use up some of m=
y
> borax, but alas it's not to be. =3DA0Gave some to my neighbor, a
> blacksmith, to use as a forge-welding flux, and a big bag of it to
> another neighbor to use as an ant barrier around their greenhouse.
>
> Off to the airport to fetch the kiddies.
>
--=3D20
Eric Alan Hansen
Stonehouse Studio Pottery
Alexandria, Virginia
americanpotter.blogspot.com
thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
hansencookbook.blogspot.com
"Simplify, simplify, simplify" - Thoreau
Edouard Bastarache on mon 18 jul 11
Eric,
At long last, somebody, who is happy with one of my posts,,,
Thanks,
Gis,
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
http://edouardbastaracheblogs2.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
http://blogsalbertbastarache.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "Eric Hansen"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
Bass: I have been looking for this for 18 years!! Thanks!!!!
"Oxyde de Baryum, Anhydride Borique
BaO, 0.64 B2O3
750 =3DB0C"
- h a n s e n -
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Edouard Bastarache =3D=
20
wrote:
> Check this out:
> http://smart2000.pagesperso-orange.fr/bore.htm
>
> Gis,
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
>
> Sorel-Tracy
> Quebec
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
> http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
> http://edouardbastaracheblogs2.blogspot.com/
> http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
> http://blogsalbertbastarache.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Woof"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
>
>
> James, please note that I make a "flip over on their backs dead" ant
> insecticide using
> boric acid, or twenty mule team borax... or what ever boron substance
> (except frits) I have
> on the shelf, loaded into agave syrup to form a paste. They munch it ri=
=3D
ght
> down and those who survive long enough to make it back to the nest kill
> their friends and babies as well. The other Tetraborate material you
> are/were thinking of using is a wood preserving insecticide so be cauti=
=3D
ous
> and protective of the precious little lives put in your care while you
> have your smokey fun.
>
> Your frit 3195 is a relatively high Boron frit but it also has a good
> percentage of alumina so test to see how this will balance out.
>
> You may wish to add more boron to get the melt you wish; but 3134 is by=
=3D
=3D20
> far
> a simple time tested and sure way to go. However you may learn more by
> setting up your Camp Freeman kitchen and cooking up something new and
> exciting. Just don't let the exciting be a trip to the ER because your
> little darlins inhaled too much of what ever Borate substance you used.=
=3D
=3D20
> You
> don't have to have visible smoke to get messed up from the fumes.
>
>
>
> Some published symptoms of poisoning from Boron compounds include:
> Irritation of the skin and respiratory tract; gastrointestinal;skin
> vascular system and brain, which lead to nausea, vomiting, pain,
> diarrhea, headache and Lethargy.
>
>
>
> In severe case: erythematous and exfoliate rash, unconsciousness,
> respiratory depression, and renal failure. Sound like a fun afternoon??=
=3D
?
>
> Teach them first to read the wind and stay up wind!!! A spit wetted fin=
=3D
ger
> held up will feel cooler on the up wind side even in the slightest of a=
=3D
ir
> movment.
>
> David Woof
> __________________________________________
> Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
> Posted by: "James Freeman" jamesfreemanstudio@GMAIL.COM
> Date: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:19 am ((PDT))
>
> Thanks to everyone for the many replies, both on list and off. I have
> a 50# sack of frit 3195 laying around for some unknown reason, so I
> guess that's the way to go. Was hoping for a way to use up some of my
> borax, but alas it's not to be. Gave some to my neighbor, a
> blacksmith, to use as a forge-welding flux, and a big bag of it to
> another neighbor to use as an ant barrier around their greenhouse.
>
> Off to the airport to fetch the kiddies.
>
--=3D20
Eric Alan Hansen
Stonehouse Studio Pottery
Alexandria, Virginia
americanpotter.blogspot.com
thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
hansencookbook.blogspot.com
"Simplify, simplify, simplify" - Thoreau
David Woof on tue 19 jul 11
Edouard=3D2C
I was also happy with the medical info you posted. I first didn't realize =
=3D
that the English=3D20
translation was just a scroll down away so=3D3B reminding myself that Engli=
sh=3D
is=3D20
just French spoken badly=3D3B I waded in and what you posted of course conf=
ir=3D
med what I had=3D20
warned James about.=3D20
You say: <"At long last=3D2C somebody=3D2C who is happy with one of my post=
s=3D2C=3D
=3D2C=3D2C...">
I would posit that if one wishes to be accepted into a particular society o=
=3D
ne must pay attention=3D20
to the acceptable behavioral norms of that society.
=3DA0
Example: If I craved the positive attention and acceptance of the "Skin Hea=
=3D
ds"=3D3B=3D20
I would have to memorize some slogans=3D2C jokes to tell=3D2C and paste a s=
tupi=3D
d but sincere smile=3D20
on my jutting hate mongering jaw and forward same to all my associations.=
=3D20
You know=3D3B "Birds of a feather flock together" and from our heart of hea=
rt=3D
s our lips move and=3D20
our true beliefs and character are made manifest=3D2C not through our words=
b=3D
ut as evidenced=3D20
in our behavior.
Gis=3D2C
Woof
_____________________________________________-
=3DA0
6b. Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
Posted by: "Edouard Bastarache" edouardb@COLBA.NET=3D20
Date: Mon Jul 18=3D2C 2011 12:23 pm ((PDT))
=3D20
Eric=3D2C
=3D20
At long last=3D2C somebody=3D2C who is happy with one of my posts=3D2C=3D2C=
=3D2C
Thanks=3D2C
=3D20
Gis=3D2C
=3D20
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
=3D20
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
=3D20
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
http://edouardbastaracheblogs2.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
http://blogsalbertbastarache.blogspot.com/
=3D20
=3D20
=3D20
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "Eric Hansen"
To:
Sent: Monday=3D2C July 18=3D2C 2011 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
=3D20
=3D20
Bass: I have been looking for this for 18 years!! Thanks!!!!
=3D20
"Oxyde de Baryum=3D2C Anhydride Borique
BaO=3D2C 0.64 B2O3
750 =3DB0C"
=3D20
- h a n s e n -
=3D20
=3D20
=3D20
On Sun=3D2C Jul 17=3D2C 2011 at 9:22 PM=3D2C Edouard Bastarache olba.n=3D
et>=3D20
wrote:
> Check this out:
> http://smart2000.pagesperso-orange.fr/bore.htm
>
> Gis=3D2C
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
=3D
Edouard Bastarache on tue 19 jul 11
Hey woof,
i was not even the one who send the text to Clayart!!!
And I can take pressure, I have been 40 years sitting between
big unions and big companies, when I say big, I mean large
companies hiring thousands of persons.
So, I can take care of myself and fight back...
Gis,
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
http://edouardbastaracheblogs2.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
http://blogsalbertbastarache.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "David Woof"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
Edouard,
I was also happy with the medical info you posted. I first didn't realiz=
=3D
e=3D20
that the English
translation was just a scroll down away so; reminding myself that English=
=3D
is
just French spoken badly; I waded in and what you posted of course confir=
=3D
med=3D20
what I had
warned James about.
You say: <"At long last, somebody, who is happy with one of my posts,,,..=
=3D
.">
I would posit that if one wishes to be accepted into a particular society=
=3D
=3D20
one must pay attention
to the acceptable behavioral norms of that society.
Example: If I craved the positive attention and acceptance of the "Skin=3D2=
0
Heads";
I would have to memorize some slogans, jokes to tell, and paste a stupid =
=3D
but=3D20
sincere smile
on my jutting hate mongering jaw and forward same to all my associations.
You know; "Birds of a feather flock together" and from our heart of heart=
=3D
s=3D20
our lips move and
our true beliefs and character are made manifest, not through our words b=
=3D
ut=3D20
as evidenced
in our behavior.
Gis,
Woof
_____________________________________________-
6b. Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
Posted by: "Edouard Bastarache" edouardb@COLBA.NET
Date: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:23 pm ((PDT))
Eric,
At long last, somebody, who is happy with one of my posts,,,
Thanks,
Gis,
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://edouardbastarache.blogspot.com/
http://edouardbastaracheblogs2.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/edouard.bastarache
http://blogsalbertbastarache.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----=3D20
From: "Eric Hansen"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Borax-based Raku Glaze???
Bass: I have been looking for this for 18 years!! Thanks!!!!
"Oxyde de Baryum, Anhydride Borique
BaO, 0.64 B2O3
750 =3DB0C"
- h a n s e n -
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Edouard Bastarache
wrote:
> Check this out:
> http://smart2000.pagesperso-orange.fr/bore.htm
>
> Gis,
>
> Edouard Bastarache
> Spertesperantisto
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