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firepots

updated fri 22 jul 11

 

Tommy Humphries on tue 19 jul 11


I don't like these things...

For one the alcohol gel that they use has little or no color, making
them a burn hazard. Also why have one if you can't see the flame?
Sterno gel, while producing a yellower flame may get too hot and cause
the pot to crack, also a hazard.
Most of the gels that I have seen used have a fairly short burn time
and are too easily blown out... the one I had would be blown out by a
ceiling fan.

Tommy Humphries

On Jul 19, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Deborah Thuman wrote:

> I was looking for something else on line when I stumbled upon
> firepots. These are cute, ceramic pots that have a stainless steel
> container in them. The container is filled with a gel that can be
> ignited (kind of like sterno). Sterno seems to be safer than the gel
> that gets poured in.

Deborah Thuman on tue 19 jul 11


I was looking for something else on line when I stumbled upon
firepots. These are cute, ceramic pots that have a stainless steel
container in them. The container is filled with a gel that can be
ignited (kind of like sterno). Sterno seems to be safer than the gel
that gets poured in.

I still don't like to buy what I can make. I'm thinking of a pot with
an opening large enough to accommodate a can of sterno. I was
wondering if anyone had any experience making firepots - good or bad
experiences all are appreciated. Sure would be fun to sit out on the
patio with my firepot and roast marshmallows.

TIA

Deb Thuman
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David Finkelnburg on wed 20 jul 11


Deb,
You need to use a body with either very low coefficient of thermal
expansion (CTE) OR high thermal shock resistance. Native Americans in the
southwest achieved high thermal shock resistance with local clay bodies tha=
t
contained a lot of mica. At pit fire temperatures their work was very
porous, thus thermal shock resistant. The work was unglazed, was soft and
not particularly strong but could be placed directly in a cooking fire.
There has been a lot of discussion this year on flameware--all in the
archives. Flameware is usually high in lithium, thus has a very low CTE.
There are many published recipes, few of which have been thoroughly or
properly tested as true flameware. However, for your purpose, which seems
not nearly so rigourous, this might be a way to go if you want a body which
could be glazed.
Good potting!
Dave Finkelnburg
http://www.mattanddavesclays.com

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:05:56 -0600, Deborah Thuman
wrote:
I was looking for something else on line when I stumbled upon
firepots. These are cute, ceramic pots that have a stainless steel
container in them. The container is filled with a gel that can be
ignited (kind of like sterno). Sterno seems to be safer than the gel
that gets poured in.
I still don't like to buy what I can make. I'm thinking of a pot with
an opening large enough to accommodate a can of sterno. I was
wondering if anyone had any experience making firepots - good or bad
experiences all are appreciated. Sure would be fun to sit out on the
patio with my firepot and roast marshmallows.

Raymond Jimison on thu 21 jul 11


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