pdp1 on thu 1 sep 11
Hi James,
Wonderful old 'quotes'...
Those guys sound like an entertaining if 'difficult' bunch..!
Like swimming with Barracudas...in a ( small ) Swimming Pool...
I think the 'Whistler, to Leighton' is my favorite...
I ran across a 'quote' I liked recently, but I do not remember who it had
been attributed to.
It was something like -
"Words and phrases which are too stupid to be said...can always be Sung..."
Ohhhh, that cracked me up.
So many Songs of the '60s, or even since, which I really liked and still
like now, if I bother to read the Lyrics, ohhh, man, are the Lyrics 'bad'..=
.
Lol...
Phil
L v
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Freeman"
I often think, talk, and write about the meaning of the term "art" (from an
epistemological rather than dictionary perspective), and whether the term
even has meaning (pretty much reached the inescapable conclusion that it
does not). I recently came across a delightful collection of critiques of
famous artists by other famous artists, and thought I would share just a
few. Enjoy (or ignore, as you wish)!
Frederic Leighton, to James McNeil Whistler:
"My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy, unfinished
state. Why don't you ever finish them?
Whistler, to Leighton:
"My dear Leighton, why do you even begin yours?"
Salvador Dali, describing Jackson Pollock's paintings:
"...The indigestion that goes with fish soup."
*Francis Bacon, on Jackson Pollock:*
=93Jackson Pollock=92s paintings might be very pretty but they=92re just
decoration. I always think they look like old lace.=94
*Francis Bacon, on Henri Matisse:*
=93I=92ve never liked his things very much, except the very, very early thi=
ngs=85
I loathe them. I can never see what there is to it, with all those squalid
little forms. I can=92t bear the drawings either =97 I absolutely hate his =
line.
I find his line sickly.=94
*Andy Warhol, on Jasper Johns:*
=93Oh, I think he=92s great. He makes such great lunches.=94
Andy Warhol, on Julian Schnabel:
=93... I got worried that Julian might have heard what I=92d been saying ab=
out
him =97 that he goes around to other artists=92 studios to find things to c=
opy.=94
*Willem de Kooning, on Andy Warhol:
* =93You=92re a killer of art, you=92re a killer of beauty, you=92re even a=
killer
of laughter. I can=92t bear your work!=94
*Nicolas Poussin, on Caravaggio:*
=93Carvaggio=92s art is painting for lackeys. This man has come into the wo=
rld
to destroy painting.=94
*Titian, on Tintoretto:*
=93He will never be anything but a dauber.=94
*Salvador Dal=ED, on Piet Mondrian:*
=93Well, I Salvador, will tell you this, that Piet with one =91i=92 less wo=
uld
have been nothing but *pet*, which is the French word for fart.=94
*Salvador Dal=ED, on Pablo Picasso:*
=93He finished modern art at one blow by out-uglying, alone, in a single da=
y,
the ugly that all others combined turned out in several years.=94
Alberto Giacometti, on Picasso:
=93Picasso is altogether bad, completely beside the point from the beginnin=
g
except for his Cubist period, and even that half misunderstood=85. Ugly.
Old-fashioned, vulgar, without sensitivity, horrible in color or non-color.
Very bad painter once and for all.=94
*Marc Chagall, on Picasso:*
=93What a genius, that Picasso=85 It=92s a pity he doesn=92t paint.=94
*William Blake, on Peter Paul Rubens:*
=93To my eye Ruben=92s coloring is most contemptible. His shadows are of a
filthy brown somewhat the color of excrement.=94
*Joseph Beuys, on Marcel Duchamp:
*=93The silence of Marcel Duchamp is overrated. It has become the territory=
of
a few intellectuals, far from the life of people.=94
* Frida Kahlo, on the European Surrealists:*
=93They are so damn =91intellectual=92 and rotten that I can=92t stand them=
anymore=85
I=92d rather sit on the floor in the market of Toluca and sell tortillas, t=
han
have anything to do with those =91artistic=92 bitches of Paris.=94
*Pierre-Auguste Renoir, on Leonardo da Vinci:*
=93He bores me. He ought to have stuck to his flying machines.=94
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
Dannon Rhudy on thu 1 sep 11
That was more fun to read than I've had in some time.
Critics are hilarious, whether they mean to be or not,
whether they are serious or not, whether they are envious
or jealous or not.
And while I do not object in any way to various criticism(s)-
still, one must admit that it is just one mind, one pair of
eyes (or ears, perhaps) looking at/listening to another.
In this case, at least the critics are artists themselves.
Of course, narrow minds and self-absorption are not confined
to the pedestrian of the earth. We are all quite capable,
and thoroughly opinionated.
Thanks, James. I left the list of quotes attached, in case
it was missed first time around. And it is worth a repeat read, anyway.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
James said:
..........recently came across a delightful collection of critiques of
famous artists by other famous artists, and thought I would share just a
few. Enjoy.....=3D20
Frederic Leighton, to James McNeil Whistler:
"My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy, unfinished
state. Why don't you ever finish them?
Whistler, to Leighton:
"My dear Leighton, why do you even begin yours?"
Salvador Dali, describing Jackson Pollock's paintings:
"...The indigestion that goes with fish soup."
*Francis Bacon, on Jackson Pollock:*
=3D93Jackson Pollock=3D92s paintings might be very pretty but they=3D92re j=
ust
decoration. I always think they look like old lace.=3D94
*Francis Bacon, on Henri Matisse:*
=3D93I=3D92ve never liked his things very much, except the very, very early=
=3D
things=3D85
I loathe them. I can never see what there is to it, with all those =3D
squalid
little forms. I can=3D92t bear the drawings either =3D97 I absolutely hate =
=3D
his line.
I find his line sickly.=3D94
*Andy Warhol, on Jasper Johns:*
=3D93Oh, I think he=3D92s great. He makes such great lunches.=3D94
Andy Warhol, on Julian Schnabel:
=3D93... I got worried that Julian might have heard what I=3D92d been sayin=
g =3D
about
him =3D97 that he goes around to other artists=3D92 studios to find things =
=3D
to copy.=3D94
*Willem de Kooning, on Andy Warhol:
* =3D93You=3D92re a killer of art, you=3D92re a killer of beauty, you=3D92r=
e =3D
even a killer
of laughter. I can=3D92t bear your work!=3D94
*Nicolas Poussin, on Caravaggio:*
=3D93Carvaggio=3D92s art is painting for lackeys. This man has come into th=
e =3D
world
to destroy painting.=3D94
*Titian, on Tintoretto:*
=3D93He will never be anything but a dauber.=3D94
*Salvador Dal=3DED, on Piet Mondrian:*
=3D93Well, I Salvador, will tell you this, that Piet with one =3D91i=3D92 l=
ess =3D
would
have been nothing but *pet*, which is the French word for fart.=3D94
*Salvador Dal=3DED, on Pablo Picasso:*
=3D93He finished modern art at one blow by out-uglying, alone, in a single =
=3D
day,
the ugly that all others combined turned out in several years.=3D94
Alberto Giacometti, on Picasso:
=3D93Picasso is altogether bad, completely beside the point from the =3D
beginning
except for his Cubist period, and even that half misunderstood=3D85. Ugly.
Old-fashioned, vulgar, without sensitivity, horrible in color or =3D
non-color.
Very bad painter once and for all.=3D94
*Marc Chagall, on Picasso:*
=3D93What a genius, that Picasso=3D85 It=3D92s a pity he doesn=3D92t paint.=
=3D94
*William Blake, on Peter Paul Rubens:*
=3D93To my eye Ruben=3D92s coloring is most contemptible. His shadows are o=
f =3D
a
filthy brown somewhat the color of excrement.=3D94
*Joseph Beuys, on Marcel Duchamp:
*=3D93The silence of Marcel Duchamp is overrated. It has become the =3D
territory of
a few intellectuals, far from the life of people.=3D94
* Frida Kahlo, on the European Surrealists:*
=3D93They are so damn =3D91intellectual=3D92 and rotten that I can=3D92t st=
and =3D
them anymore=3D85
I=3D92d rather sit on the floor in the market of Toluca and sell =3D
tortillas, than
have anything to do with those =3D91artistic=3D92 bitches of Paris.=3D94
*Pierre-Auguste Renoir, on Leonardo da Vinci:*
=3D93He bores me. He ought to have stuck to his flying machines.=3D94
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I =3D
should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
James Freeman on thu 1 sep 11
I often think, talk, and write about the meaning of the term "art" (from an
epistemological rather than dictionary perspective), and whether the term
even has meaning (pretty much reached the inescapable conclusion that it
does not). I recently came across a delightful collection of critiques of
famous artists by other famous artists, and thought I would share just a
few. Enjoy (or ignore, as you wish)!
Frederic Leighton, to James McNeil Whistler:
"My dear Whistler, you leave your pictures in such a sketchy, unfinished
state. Why don't you ever finish them?
Whistler, to Leighton:
"My dear Leighton, why do you even begin yours?"
Salvador Dali, describing Jackson Pollock's paintings:
"...The indigestion that goes with fish soup."
*Francis Bacon, on Jackson Pollock:*
=3D93Jackson Pollock=3D92s paintings might be very pretty but they=3D92re j=
ust
decoration. I always think they look like old lace.=3D94
*Francis Bacon, on Henri Matisse:*
=3D93I=3D92ve never liked his things very much, except the very, very early=
thi=3D
ngs=3D85
I loathe them. I can never see what there is to it, with all those squalid
little forms. I can=3D92t bear the drawings either =3D97 I absolutely hate =
his =3D
line.
I find his line sickly.=3D94
*Andy Warhol, on Jasper Johns:*
=3D93Oh, I think he=3D92s great. He makes such great lunches.=3D94
Andy Warhol, on Julian Schnabel:
=3D93... I got worried that Julian might have heard what I=3D92d been sayin=
g ab=3D
out
him =3D97 that he goes around to other artists=3D92 studios to find things =
to c=3D
opy.=3D94
*Willem de Kooning, on Andy Warhol:
* =3D93You=3D92re a killer of art, you=3D92re a killer of beauty, you=3D92r=
e even a=3D
killer
of laughter. I can=3D92t bear your work!=3D94
*Nicolas Poussin, on Caravaggio:*
=3D93Carvaggio=3D92s art is painting for lackeys. This man has come into th=
e wo=3D
rld
to destroy painting.=3D94
*Titian, on Tintoretto:*
=3D93He will never be anything but a dauber.=3D94
*Salvador Dal=3DED, on Piet Mondrian:*
=3D93Well, I Salvador, will tell you this, that Piet with one =3D91i=3D92 l=
ess wo=3D
uld
have been nothing but *pet*, which is the French word for fart.=3D94
*Salvador Dal=3DED, on Pablo Picasso:*
=3D93He finished modern art at one blow by out-uglying, alone, in a single =
da=3D
y,
the ugly that all others combined turned out in several years.=3D94
Alberto Giacometti, on Picasso:
=3D93Picasso is altogether bad, completely beside the point from the beginn=
in=3D
g
except for his Cubist period, and even that half misunderstood=3D85. Ugly.
Old-fashioned, vulgar, without sensitivity, horrible in color or non-color.
Very bad painter once and for all.=3D94
*Marc Chagall, on Picasso:*
=3D93What a genius, that Picasso=3D85 It=3D92s a pity he doesn=3D92t paint.=
=3D94
*William Blake, on Peter Paul Rubens:*
=3D93To my eye Ruben=3D92s coloring is most contemptible. His shadows are o=
f a
filthy brown somewhat the color of excrement.=3D94
*Joseph Beuys, on Marcel Duchamp:
*=3D93The silence of Marcel Duchamp is overrated. It has become the territo=
ry=3D
of
a few intellectuals, far from the life of people.=3D94
* Frida Kahlo, on the European Surrealists:*
=3D93They are so damn =3D91intellectual=3D92 and rotten that I can=3D92t st=
and them=3D
anymore=3D85
I=3D92d rather sit on the floor in the market of Toluca and sell tortillas,=
t=3D
han
have anything to do with those =3D91artistic=3D92 bitches of Paris.=3D94
*Pierre-Auguste Renoir, on Leonardo da Vinci:*
=3D93He bores me. He ought to have stuck to his flying machines.=3D94
...James
James Freeman
"...outsider artists, caught in the bog of their own consciousness, too
preciously idiosyncratic to be taken seriously."
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
pdp1 on fri 2 sep 11
It may have been a euphemism...( so many things are, after all..)
This was translated also, from the Spanish, I would suppose, yes?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Taylor Hendrix"
Let's not forget Gala to Dali:
"I want you to croak me!"
I think that says it all, really. Don't you?
Taylor, in Rockport TX
Lee on fri 2 sep 11
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Dannon Rhudy wrote:
> And while I do not object in any way to various criticism(s)-
> still, one must admit that it is just one mind, one pair of
> eyes (or ears, perhaps) looking at/listening to another.
One of the great tragedies that modern narcissistic times have
brought us is the notion that art is simply "self expression."
The perennial, age old perspective, is that Art is Communicatio=
=3D
n.
Because art IS communication, criticism and feedback is
essential, so the creator can know how successful his work is in
communicating what he intended. Criticism helps the creator improve
his creative skills.
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Taylor Hendrix on fri 2 sep 11
Let's not forget Gala to Dali:
"I want you to croak me!"
I think that says it all, really. Don't you?
Taylor, in Rockport TX
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http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:48 PM, James Freeman
wrote:
.... =3DC2=3DA0I recently came across a delightful collection of critiques =
of
> famous artists by other famous artists, and thought I would share just a
> few. =3DC2=3DA0Enjoy (or ignore, as you wish)!
>
...
> Salvador Dali, describing Jackson Pollock's paintings:
> "...The indigestion that goes with fish soup."
>
...
pdp1 on sat 3 sep 11
Hi Eric,
It is difficult to know what to make of your reactions, since they almost
never appear to have had anything to do with the actual subjectmatter.
Would you kindly explain how the below lines are to be understood as
'Bashing Dali'?
Phil
L v
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Hansen"
>I rate this rant at two thumbs down, first we bash education, now we bash
>Dali.
>
> h a n s e n
>
> p.s.
>
> I'm done.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:11 PM, pdp1 wrote:
>> It may have been a euphemism...( so many things are, after all..)
>>
>>
>> This was translated also, from the Spanish, I would suppose, yes?
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Taylor Hendrix"
>>
>> Let's not forget Gala to Dali:
>> "I want you to croak me!"
>>
>> I think that says it all, really. Don't you?
>>
>> Taylor, in Rockport TX
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Eric Alan Hansen
> Stonehouse Studio Pottery
> Alexandria, Virginia
> americanpotter.blogspot.com
> thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
> hansencookbook.blogspot.com
> "Simplify, simplify, simplify" - Thoreau
Lee on sat 3 sep 11
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Taylor Hendrix wrot=
=3D
e:
> Let's not forget Gala to Dali:
> "I want you to croak me!"
Madonna to Gaga:
"She is not me."
http://youtu.be/Lo2RcQr42BY
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Eric Hansen on sat 3 sep 11
I rate this rant at two thumbs down, first we bash education, now we bash D=
ali.
h a n s e n
p.s.
I'm done.
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:11 PM, pdp1 wrote:
> It may have been a euphemism...( so many things are, after all..)
>
>
> This was translated also, from the Spanish, I would suppose, yes?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Taylor Hendrix"
>
> Let's not forget Gala to Dali:
> "I want you to croak me!"
>
> I think that says it all, really. Don't you?
>
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
>
--
Eric Alan Hansen
Stonehouse Studio Pottery
Alexandria, Virginia
americanpotter.blogspot.com
thesuddenschool.blogspot.com
hansencookbook.blogspot.com
"Simplify, simplify, simplify" - Thoreau
Taylor Hendrix on tue 6 sep 11
I'd like to know too, Phil, as I have 4 Dali prints hanging on my
living room wall. Admittedly, they are early works, but I was such a
big fan of the painting of his sister, that I begged Marsha to buy the
set. The Dali museum in St. Pete is fantastic.
Now, please, someone croak me!
Taylor, in Rockport TX
wirerabbit1 on Skype (-0600 UTC)
http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, pdp1 wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
>
> It is difficult to know what to make of your reactions, since they almost
> never appear to have had anything to do with the actual subjectmatter.
>
> Would you kindly explain how the below lines are to be understood as
> 'Bashing Dali'?
>
>
...
James Freeman on sat 10 sep 11
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:34 PM, pdp1 wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Taylor Hendrix"
I'd like to know too, Phil, as I have 4 Dali prints hanging on my
> living room wall. Admittedly, they are early works, but I was such a
> big fan of the painting of his sister, that I begged Marsha to buy the
> set. The Dali museum in St. Pete is fantastic.
>
>
I have always liked Dali, or his Art-Paintings ( or possibly both ) also,
from my
earliest recollections.
I think he would have been fun to know.
Phil, Taylor, et alii...
If you want to go on a serious Dali trip, read his wonderful book entitled
"50 Secrets of Magic Craftsmanship". Hoo boy! That man was NOT
playacting. Though one of my very favorite painters, he was truly a nut.
An utterly brilliant painter, to be sure, a brilliant draughtsman,
fantastically creative, but a certifiable nut. His concept of "sleep, with
a key" intrigued me to no end; his concept about rolling the three fish
eyeballs around in one's mouth as a prelude to painting, not so much! The
stuff about the spiders and the sea urchin corpse are just icing on the Dal=
i
cake!
Here is a snippet from the first page, just to whet your appetite!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The two most fortunate things that can happen to a painter are, first, to b=
e
Spanish, and second, to be named Dali. Those two fortunate things have
happened to me.
"Salvador, as his very name indicates, is destined to nothing less than to
rescue painting from the void of modern art."
This categorical affirmation, though it would seem at first sight, by it's
egocentricity, to have been written by Dali himself, is from the pen of the
famous Catalonian philosopher, Francese Pujols. In 1937, in the midst of
the surrealist chaos when I wrote this, I admit - modestly, for once - that
I myself, in spite of my ambitious imperialisms of very kind, did not place
much faith in it. Today I realize, however, that I have become firmly
convinced of it.*
*Quite apart from my intrinsic value as a painter - which I am one of the
first to be ready to discuss - one thing is certain: that if "painting" is
to survive our epoch of barbarous mechanical progress, this continuity of
painting will have it's starting point in Salvador Dali; and it is for this
reason that this book is destined to have a daily-growing vital interest.
For no person, whether directly or remotely interested in the real
phenomenon of painting, will be able to avoid consulting it.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
With that lead in, how can you resist? I just pulled my copy from the
bookshelf and placed it atop my "to be read" pile. I shall reread it as
soon as I finish wading through the "Art vs. Non-Art" tome that Professor
Britt suggested (sure hope it picks up soon!).
All the best.
...James
James Freeman
"All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should
not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
-Michel de Montaigne
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
pdp1 on sat 10 sep 11
----- Original Message -----
From: "Taylor Hendrix"
> I'd like to know too, Phil, as I have 4 Dali prints hanging on my
> living room wall. Admittedly, they are early works, but I was such a
> big fan of the painting of his sister, that I begged Marsha to buy the
> set. The Dali museum in St. Pete is fantastic.
>
> Now, please, someone croak me!
>
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
I have always liked Dali, or his Art-Paintings ( or possibly both ) also,
from my
earliest recollections.
I think he would have been fun to know.
His Painting - "The Pharmacist of Ampurdan seeking absolutely Nothing" come=
s
to mind as one of my ( many ) favorites...
I do not recall ever feeling nor expressing anything about Dali ever, which
could be construed as being detracting or as less than admiring and
appreciatve.
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:41 PM, pdp1 wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>>
>> It is difficult to know what to make of your reactions, since they almos=
t
>> never appear to have had anything to do with the actual subjectmatter.
>>
>> Would you kindly explain how the below lines are to be understood as
>> 'Bashing Dali'?
>>
>>
> ...
pdp1 on sun 11 sep 11
Hi James,
I will read it!
I shall go to the 'Amazondotcom' right now...
I do remember ( vaguely ) reading Dali's Autobiography a long time ago, (
highschool daze I think ) in which ( among many other things of course ) he
mentioned, or elaborated upon, what he called 'the delerium paranoia'.
This endeared him to me instantly, since I felt I understood perfectly what
he was talking about, and it cheered me up to know at least someone else,
somewhere, had enjoyed/suffered similar modes of experience to some of my
own
I felt at the time, and since, that he could be regarded as a Successor or
Sequal, to Wil'm Blake.
The difficulty of a dull Book, is that for having set it down, one is in
danger of compromise or delusion or false guilt, or rationalizing one's sel=
f
out of one's better instincts, and, thus, of picking it back up again, or o=
f
inadvertantly inviting someone else to ( pick it up )...for which, my
advice, in kindness, is to throw it away, instead...and promptly.
Phil
L v
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Freeman"
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:34 PM, pdp1 wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Taylor Hendrix"
>
> I'd like to know too, Phil, as I have 4 Dali prints hanging on my
>> living room wall. Admittedly, they are early works, but I was such a
>> big fan of the painting of his sister, that I begged Marsha to buy the
>> set. The Dali museum in St. Pete is fantastic.
>>
>>
> I have always liked Dali, or his Art-Paintings ( or possibly both ) also,
> from my
> earliest recollections.
>
> I think he would have been fun to know.
>
>
>
>
> Phil, Taylor, et alii...
>
> If you want to go on a serious Dali trip, read his wonderful book entitle=
d
> "50 Secrets of Magic Craftsmanship". Hoo boy! That man was NOT
> playacting. Though one of my very favorite painters, he was truly a nut.
> An utterly brilliant painter, to be sure, a brilliant draughtsman,
> fantastically creative, but a certifiable nut. His concept of "sleep,
> with
> a key" intrigued me to no end; his concept about rolling the three fish
> eyeballs around in one's mouth as a prelude to painting, not so much! Th=
e
> stuff about the spiders and the sea urchin corpse are just icing on the
> Dali
> cake!
>
> Here is a snippet from the first page, just to whet your appetite!
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> The two most fortunate things that can happen to a painter are, first, to
> be
> Spanish, and second, to be named Dali. Those two fortunate things have
> happened to me.
>
> "Salvador, as his very name indicates, is destined to nothing less than t=
o
> rescue painting from the void of modern art."
> This categorical affirmation, though it would seem at first sight, by it'=
s
> egocentricity, to have been written by Dali himself, is from the pen of
> the
> famous Catalonian philosopher, Francese Pujols. In 1937, in the midst of
> the surrealist chaos when I wrote this, I admit - modestly, for once -
> that
> I myself, in spite of my ambitious imperialisms of very kind, did not
> place
> much faith in it. Today I realize, however, that I have become firmly
> convinced of it.*
>
> *Quite apart from my intrinsic value as a painter - which I am one of the
> first to be ready to discuss - one thing is certain: that if "painting"
> is
> to survive our epoch of barbarous mechanical progress, this continuity of
> painting will have it's starting point in Salvador Dali; and it is for
> this
> reason that this book is destined to have a daily-growing vital interest.
> For no person, whether directly or remotely interested in the real
> phenomenon of painting, will be able to avoid consulting it.
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>
> With that lead in, how can you resist? I just pulled my copy from the
> bookshelf and placed it atop my "to be read" pile. I shall reread it as
> soon as I finish wading through the "Art vs. Non-Art" tome that Professor
> Britt suggested (sure hope it picks up soon!).
>
> All the best.
>
> ...James
>
> James Freeman
>
> "All I say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I shoul=
d
> not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed."
> -Michel de Montaigne
>
> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesfreemanstudio/
> http://www.jamesfreemanstudio.com/resources
ivor and olive lewis on tue 13 sep 11
Few people may be aware that Salvador Dali contributed graphic images
condemning the Spanish Civil War . Pablo Picasso is remembered for his
statement about Guernica.
Regards,
Ivor Lewis,
REDHILL,
South Australia
Dannon Rhudy on tue 13 sep 11
Dali also illustrated a Bible, known as the "Dali Bible".
Amazing images. I'd never heard of it (few have, I expect)
but when I took my first drawing class, my instructor
brought her copy for us to be impressed by. We were.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of ivor and olive
lewis
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:47 AM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: What is and isn't art: What real artists say
Few people may be aware that Salvador Dali contributed graphic images
condemning the Spanish Civil War . Pablo Picasso is remembered for his
statement about Guernica.
Regards,
Ivor Lewis,
REDHILL,
South Australia
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