Sasha Bosbeer on tue 15 nov 11
Hello=3D2C all=3D2C
I am in the middle of a career break developing my skills in pottery=3D2C w=
it=3D
h an eye to turning my potting from hobby to my full-time activity.
I have the opportunity to do a salt-glazing workshop which I was really loo=
=3D
king forward to. However=3D2C it's a bit expensive (more than I had thought=
).=3D
.. so I wanted to ask more experienced potters what you think about the ben=
=3D
efits of doing such a workshop:*I know the course would be a lot of fun and=
=3D
that I would enjoy it enormously. *One of the things I love about pottery =
=3D
is all the wonderful chemical interactions and also the long traditions str=
=3D
etching over hundreds of years of what people discovered in different parts=
=3D
of the world.* I also know that salt glazing is polluting and that I may n=
=3D
ot use it much myself.
But=3D2C do you think that the skills and knowledge gained would be of gene=
ra=3D
l use ?=3D20
I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
Thanks=3D2CSasha Bosbeer =3D
Steve Mills on wed 16 nov 11
Dear Sasha,=3D20
It really depends on what is being offered as the Workshop content.=3D20
There is a wealth of information already available in book form e.g. Phil R=
o=3D
gers' book on salt glaze among others, which detail many areas of that disc=
i=3D
pline such as slips, wadding, packing and salting (though Phil doesn't cove=
r=3D
the type of European "light" salting I practice), but there is nothing to =
b=3D
eat actual direct hands-on learning.=3D20
I suggest you contact others who have taken this course and discover if the=
y=3D
felt it was worth the financial outlay, and make your decision based on th=
a=3D
t.=3D20
Steve M
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
www.mudslinger.me.uk
Sent from my Ipod touch
On 15 Nov 2011, at 16:13, Sasha Bosbeer wrote:
> Hello, all,
> I am in the middle of a career break developing my skills in pottery, wit=
h=3D
an eye to turning my potting from hobby to my full-time activity.
> I have the opportunity to do a salt-glazing workshop which I was really l=
o=3D
oking forward to. However, it's a bit expensive (more than I had thought)..=
.=3D
so I wanted to ask more experienced potters what you think about the benef=
i=3D
ts of doing such a workshop:*I know the course would be a lot of fun and th=
a=3D
t I would enjoy it enormously. *One of the things I love about pottery is a=
l=3D
l the wonderful chemical interactions and also the long traditions stretchi=
n=3D
g over hundreds of years of what people discovered in different parts of th=
e=3D
world.* I also know that salt glazing is polluting and that I may not use =
i=3D
t much myself.
> But, do you think that the skills and knowledge gained would be of genera=
l=3D
use ?=3D20
> I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
> Thanks,Sasha Bosbeer =3D20
Mary & Wes Handrow on wed 16 nov 11
A number of things come to mind which you may already know, so if I am
beating a dead horse I am sorry. Salt glaze more than anything else will
teach you to think in terms of shape and surface since salt does not hide
any flaws. The use of slips and how they react in different parts of the
kiln, how much or how little salt you choose to put on the pots, how the
salt changes other glazes that you may be using, this opens up grand new
vistas for you. As to the polluting aspects of salting, they are not as
much as you may think. Most of what comes out of the kiln that has not
reacted with the interior of the kiln comes out as salt, soda comes out as
quick lime, but the important thing to remember is the amount that of other
products that come out, a jet airliner taking off vastly over trumps your
kiln in seconds, your car running through the course of the year, way more
than what will come out of your kiln in the same time frame. What catches
the eye and the nose is the white cloud and if you are down wind the smell.
Even if you never again salt glaze what you will learn will have a wonderfu=
l
impact on your work. I wood fire and would love to combine it with salt bu=
t
because of that white cloud and the smell and the fact that I like my
neighbors, I don't salt, not because of the "polluting" aspects, some of th=
e
copper and nickel and other oxides that I have in my glazes go up the stack
and that could be looked at as polluting but I doubt that that stops too
many potters from firing.
Lee on wed 16 nov 11
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Sasha Bosbeer wr=
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ote:
> But, do you think that the skills and knowledge gained would be of genera=
=3D
l use ?
Depends on the teacher.
--=3D20
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
David Woof on thu 17 nov 11
Hi Sasha=3D2C
oh oh=3D2C it seems Lee is drifting back to his trite one liners again!!!
All skills and knowledge one can gain is tied to support of "general use"=
=3D20
What dismays me as a working studio potter=3D2C lifetime devoted to the cra=
ft=3D
=3D2C and to=3D20
education and as educator in the arts and crafts is my observation of the i=
=3D
ncreasing=3D20
"want the short answer" "want it now and only what will benefit me now" Voc=
=3D
ational School attitude.
Background information=3D2C experience=3D2C and knowledge gained in as many=
fie=3D
lds of=3D20
interest as possible are the well springs from which practical wisdom becom=
=3D
es yours.=3D20
It will show in the confidence and intention of your work=3D2C in your pres=
en=3D
tation=3D2C=3D20
and it is the vehicle you will ride for your satisfaction in accomplishment=
=3D
of personal standards=3D20
and goals you have set.
It is the start of "paying your dues" and eventually having things to say n=
=3D
ot just ask.
To be an interesting person with interesting work one must have an interest=
=3D
ed mind.
Lee is right as far as he went=3D3B it does depend on the (effective) teach=
er=3D
=3D2C but even more=3D20
so the final result depends on the hungry student.=3D20
An engaged student can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!!!
David Woof....Clarkdale=3D2C Arizona....Always a little over the edge...see=
in=3D
g!!!
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1a. Re: thoughts on salt glazing course?
Posted by: "Lee" cwiddershins@GMAIL.COM=3D20
Date: Wed Nov 16=3D2C 2011 8:16 pm ((PST))
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On Tue=3D2C Nov 15=3D2C 2011 at 10:13 AM=3D2C Sasha Bosbeer mail.c=3D
om> wrote:
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> But=3D2C do you think that the skills and knowledge gained would be of ge=
ne=3D
ral use ?
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Depends on the teacher.
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=3D20
--=3D20
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3D20
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is=3D
=3D2C "The
land of eternal youth is in (the little house behind) the house=3D2C a beau=
ti=3D
ful land (moving and)=3D20
fluent within itself." -- John O'Donohue
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=3D
Lee on thu 17 nov 11
It also depends on what "a bit expensive" is.
Who is the teacher and how much will it cost? Write privately if you
don't want to post publicly.
I'm thinking about offering a soda fire and glazing for soda
workshop this summer at NCC.
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
ivor and olive lewis on thu 17 nov 11
Dear Sasha Bosbeer,
About twenty five years ago I was fortunate to gain a place in a two week
workshop with Jane Hamlyn, a recognised master of the salt glaze process. I=
t
was well worth the expense, about $800 Au for instruction, several firings,
accommodation and travel expenses.
Regards,
Ivor Lewis,
REDHILL,
South Australia
Sasha Bosbeer on thu 17 nov 11
Many thanks to everyone who took time to send me comments about saltglazing=
=3D
both on and off list!!=3D20
Just one comment: I haven't owned a car since June 2009.....
:-)
Sasha =3D
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