Taylor Hendrix on tue 6 dec 11
Okay everybooby,
I'm really trying to throw interesting, rotund forms, so I thought I'd
like to try ginger jars with cap lids. What the heck is the trick to
measuring those lids so they don't end up floating on the neck of the
pot? Arg. I was sure I measured width and height correctly, but...
What type of a fit is best for this type of lid?
Taylor, in Rockport TX
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Steve Mills on wed 7 dec 11
Faced with the same problem, my way round it was to cut a piece of (in my c=
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se plastic) shaping one end as the "male" gauge for the lid, and the other =
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nd "female" for the jar.=3D20
The other prerequisite was to throw both jar and lid out of the same lump o=
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clay - lid first, then jar.=3D20
Steve M
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Steve Mills
Bath
UK
www.mudslinger.me.uk
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On 6 Dec 2011, at 22:37, Taylor Hendrix wrote:
> Okay everybooby,
>=3D20
> I'm really trying to throw interesting, rotund forms, so I thought I'd
> like to try ginger jars with cap lids. What the heck is the trick to
> measuring those lids so they don't end up floating on the neck of the
> pot? Arg. I was sure I measured width and height correctly, but...
> What type of a fit is best for this type of lid?
>=3D20
> Taylor, in Rockport TX
> wirerabbit1 on Skype (-0600 UTC)
> http://wirerabbit.blogspot.com
> http://wirerabbitpots.blogspot.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wirerabbit/
Taylor Hendrix on wed 7 dec 11
I've put a few pictures on flickr to illustrate my shortcomings. I
have measured bamboo sticks (skewers) that I use to measure, very
similar to what Lee Love suggests, as well as aluminum calipers,
various wooden ribs, etc for measuring.
I have discovered that throwing the lids off the hump is difficult for
me. Determining the amount of clay for the lid is hard as well as
throwing such a wide, flattish "bowl" without it squatting. Using a
small ball and throwing on wheel head or batt seems to be easier if
not quicker.
I'm still at a loss as to proper fit for these lids. Do they rest on
the shoulder of the pot or do they perch on the neck? I had this
problem with some storage jar forms with the same lid shape. I was
instructed to throw the neck with a slight taper which would receive
the lid. This resulted in lids "floating well above the shoulder of
the pot and seated on the neck of the form. I didn't really like the
look.
If I allow my lids to sit on the shoulder of the ginger jar form, I
think I would like the look, but I'm worried about a rattle of a lid,
something I really try not to have.
I'll also try some sit-in lids as well as flanged, on-top lids. They
solve the above problem but don't have that simple look I wanted to
experiment with for my saggar techniques.
These first steps are clunky but I think I can make them much better.
Thoughts?
Taylor, in Rockport TX
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Lee on wed 7 dec 11
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Taylor Hendrix wro=
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>
>
> These first steps are clunky but I think I can make them much better.
>
> Thoughts?
>
They seem to be too thick too. =3DA0 =3DA0You also need the shoulder to be
wider. =3DA0 The top of the jar is usually more petite. =3DA0Like this:
http://www.collectablefish.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IMG_000427-500x37=
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5.jpg
http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img/item/148/821/429/vintage-otegri-ginger-ja=
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r-hand-painted-24969.jpg
Try drawing some from the web. =3DA0 If you look, the types of lids can
vary to a large degree.
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
Roland Beevor on thu 8 dec 11
Hi Taylor,
We have a rather splendid example in the house. The lid
is just a flat disc with a cylindrical rim inset from
the edge, so a doddle to throw. It sits well by virtue
of the shape of the top of the jar, but from the repair
you may conclude that its not the most secure type of
lid. A hadsome thing nonetheless.
Ive put some pictures at
http://rolyspottery.blogspot.com/2011/12/ginger-jar.html
Roly
On 06/12/2011 22:37, Taylor Hendrix wrote:
> Okay everybooby,
>
> I'm really trying to throw interesting, rotund forms, so I thought I'd
> like to try ginger jars with cap lids. What the heck is the trick to
> measuring those lids so they don't end up floating on the neck of the
> pot? Arg. I was sure I measured width and height correctly, but...
> What type of a fit is best for this type of lid?
>
Craig Edwards on thu 8 dec 11
Taylor... Here are a few, humble examples
http://woodfiredpottery.blogspot.com/
Make Good Pots
~Craig
New London MN
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:58 AM, Roland Beevor wr=
ote:
> Hi Taylor,
>
> We have a rather splendid example in the house. The lid
> is just a flat disc with a cylindrical rim inset from
> the edge, so a doddle to throw. It sits well by virtue
> of the shape of the top of the jar, but from the repair
> you may conclude that its not the most secure type of
> lid. A hadsome thing nonetheless.
>
> Ive put some pictures at
> http://rolyspottery.blogspot.**com/2011/12/ginger-jar.htmlttery.blogspot.com/2011/12/ginger-jar.html>
>
> Roly
>
> On 06/12/2011 22:37, Taylor Hendrix wrote:
>
>> Okay everybooby,
>>
>> I'm really trying to throw interesting, rotund forms, so I thought I'd
>> like to try ginger jars with cap lids. What the heck is the trick to
>> measuring those lids so they don't end up floating on the neck of the
>> pot? Arg. I was sure I measured width and height correctly, but...
>> What type of a fit is best for this type of lid?
>>
>>
--
Eva Gallagher on thu 8 dec 11
I've always been mystified about what form of ginger was kept in those jars=
?
Dried, candied? powdered? or were they called that because of the bulbous
shape that reminded people of a ginger root?
Eva Gallagher
Deep River, Ontario
http://newfoundoutpotter.blogspot.com/
http://www.valleyartisans.com/gallagher/Gallagher.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ginger jar form
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Taylor Hendrix
wrote:
>
>
> These first steps are clunky but I think I can make them much better.
>
> Thoughts?
>
They seem to be too thick too. You also need the shoulder to be
wider. The top of the jar is usually more petite. Like this:
http://www.collectablefish.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IMG_000427-500x37=
5.jpg
http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img/item/148/821/429/vintage-otegri-ginger-ja=
r-hand-painted-24969.jpg
Try drawing some from the web. If you look, the types of lids can
vary to a large degree.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
"Ta tIr na n-=F3g ar chul an tI-tIr dlainn trina ch=E9ile"-that is, "The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
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