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John Rodgers on fri 16 dec 11


3D printers could benefit those who make molds and do large volume
production work from them. Currently, I conjure up a design, develop it
on a computer, then take it to a patternmaker who creates a pattern
which I further develop and from which I create a mold for production
ceramics. 3D printers conceivably could eliminate the step involving the
patternmaker. A design could go directly from the computer to the
printer to produce a 3D model from which a mold can be made.

John

John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com


On 12/16/2011 9:57 PM, Lesley Alexander wrote:
> No, they aren't doing that yet. They could, but probably the material wou=
ld
> be toxic. However, being able to buy, or create, a program that would mak=
e
> what you need on a computer is fast becoming affordable. A 3-D printer
> builds up the form by layers.
>
> Is this good or bad for potters? In the long run, could colorful items be
> made in non-toxic materials? What a thought! On the other hand, what if i=
t
> were easy to make potter's tools and stamps and other forms?
>
> Just something more to wonder about. Lesley A.
>
>

Lesley Alexander on fri 16 dec 11


No, they aren't doing that yet. They could, but probably the material would
be toxic. However, being able to buy, or create, a program that would make
what you need on a computer is fast becoming affordable. A 3-D printer
builds up the form by layers.

Is this good or bad for potters? In the long run, could colorful items be
made in non-toxic materials? What a thought! On the other hand, what if it
were easy to make potter's tools and stamps and other forms?

Just something more to wonder about. Lesley A.

Larry Kruzan on sat 17 dec 11


Hi John and all, This is an area where art and science are at a curious
intersection. Check out
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3D3d+printing&mid=3DD1D49E19E2AC4C55F65=
5D1D4
9E19E2AC4C55F655&view=3Ddetail&FORM=3DVIRE3 for some VERY cool possibilitie=
s.
Potters are slightly behind sculptors in taking advantage of the technique,
but as a mould maker, I'm sure you see where this may lead as the process
becomes more accessible to us of more humble resources.

This is another example
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3D3D+Prototype&view=3Ddetail&mid=3D5A76=
BF97592
BE38E40765A76BF97592BE38E4076&first=3D0&FORM=3DLKVR4

It will take away some of the "hands on" creation that we all enjoy, but fo=
r
those of us who learn computer modeling software the benefits could be
incredible. For those who do not want to engage in electronic modeling, a
"master" model could be constructed and a 3d scanner used to input the form
into the computer.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of John Rodgers
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:51 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Cups from computers

3D printers could benefit those who make molds and do large volume
production work from them. Currently, I conjure up a design, develop it on =
a
computer, then take it to a patternmaker who creates a pattern which I
further develop and from which I create a mold for production ceramics. 3D
printers conceivably could eliminate the step involving the patternmaker. A
design could go directly from the computer to the printer to produce a 3D
model from which a mold can be made.

John

John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com

Steve Mills on sat 17 dec 11


John,=3D20
In an edition of Jay Leno's Garage which I picked up from his website that'=
s=3D
what he had done to make up a special part for one of his cars.=3D20
The piece went straight from the 3D printer to the Foundry.=3D20

Steve M


Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Sent from my iPod

On 17 Dec 2011, at 04:51, John Rodgers wrote:

> 3D printers could benefit those who make molds and do large volume
> production work from them. Currently, I conjure up a design, develop it
> on a computer, then take it to a patternmaker who creates a pattern
> which I further develop and from which I create a mold for production
> ceramics. 3D printers conceivably could eliminate the step involving the
> patternmaker. A design could go directly from the computer to the
> printer to produce a 3D model from which a mold can be made.
>=3D20
> John
>=3D20
> John Rodgers
> Clayartist and Moldmaker
> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
> Chelsea, AL
> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>=3D20
>=3D20
> On 12/16/2011 9:57 PM, Lesley Alexander wrote:
>> No, they aren't doing that yet. They could, but probably the material wo=
u=3D
ld
>> be toxic. However, being able to buy, or create, a program that would ma=
k=3D
e
>> what you need on a computer is fast becoming affordable. A 3-D printer
>> builds up the form by layers.
>>=3D20
>> Is this good or bad for potters? In the long run, could colorful items b=
e=3D

>> made in non-toxic materials? What a thought! On the other hand, what if =
i=3D
t
>> were easy to make potter's tools and stamps and other forms?
>>=3D20
>> Just something more to wonder about. Lesley A.
>>=3D20
>>=3D20

Mike Gordon on sat 17 dec 11


Back in the 70's I was working in a bronze foundry and a client came in
with a relief about 16" sq, I think, of the mountain range that the
Alaska Pipeline ran through showing the actual path of the pipeline. We
sent it out to a shop that had a machine that, with a stylus on one end
that ran over the surface of the model and on the other end a small
grinder that ground out an exact replica out of solid brass, only the
size of a belt buckle.We ( I ) made sand molds from a pattern board
that the shop down the street from the foundry made for us, ten to a
board with the tree we attached.We sand cast them in bronze, and
investment cast some in sterling silver & gold for the rich people. We
used the same technique for thousands of belt buckles for Wells Fargo
Bank, showing the stage coach. I can't remember the name of the
machine, too many years ago. Mike Gordon

John Rodgers on sat 17 dec 11


I saw that. Very cool!

John

John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com


On 12/17/2011 11:41 AM, Steve Mills wrote:
> John,
> In an edition of Jay Leno's Garage which I picked up from his website tha=
t's what he had done to make up a special part for one of his cars.
> The piece went straight from the 3D printer to the Foundry.
>
> Steve M
>
>
> Steve Mills
> Bath
> UK
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On 17 Dec 2011, at 04:51, John Rodgers wrote:
>
>> 3D printers could benefit those who make molds and do large volume
>> production work from them. Currently, I conjure up a design, develop it
>> on a computer, then take it to a patternmaker who creates a pattern
>> which I further develop and from which I create a mold for production
>> ceramics. 3D printers conceivably could eliminate the step involving the
>> patternmaker. A design could go directly from the computer to the
>> printer to produce a 3D model from which a mold can be made.
>>
>> John
>>
>> John Rodgers
>> Clayartist and Moldmaker
>> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
>> Chelsea, AL
>> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/2011 9:57 PM, Lesley Alexander wrote:
>>> No, they aren't doing that yet. They could, but probably the material w=
ould
>>> be toxic. However, being able to buy, or create, a program that would m=
ake
>>> what you need on a computer is fast becoming affordable. A 3-D printer
>>> builds up the form by layers.
>>>
>>> Is this good or bad for potters? In the long run, could colorful items =
be
>>> made in non-toxic materials? What a thought! On the other hand, what if=
it
>>> were easy to make potter's tools and stamps and other forms?
>>>
>>> Just something more to wonder about. Lesley A.
>>>
>>>
>

Steve Mills on sun 18 dec 11


Michael Eden in the UK is currently exploring this technology for the Royal=
C=3D
ollege of Art, see: http://onviewonline.craftscouncil.org.uk/4040/object/P4=
9=3D
1
He demonstrated this at the International Ceramics Festival this year at Ab=
e=3D
rystwyth.=3D20
VERY interesting, not that I would go that route myself.=3D20

Steve M



Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Sent from my iPod

On 18 Dec 2011, at 04:23, Larry Kruzan wrote:

> Hi John and all, This is an area where art and science are at a curious
> intersection. Check out
> http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3D3D3d+printing&mid=3D3DD1D49E19E2AC4=
C55F6=3D
55D1D4
> 9E19E2AC4C55F655&view=3D3Ddetail&FORM=3D3DVIRE3 for some VERY cool possib=
iliti=3D
es.
> Potters are slightly behind sculptors in taking advantage of the techniqu=
e=3D
,
> but as a mould maker, I'm sure you see where this may lead as the process
> becomes more accessible to us of more humble resources.
>=3D20
> This is another example
> http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3D3D3D+Prototype&view=3D3Ddetail&mid=
=3D3D5A7=3D
6BF97592
> BE38E40765A76BF97592BE38E4076&first=3D3D0&FORM=3D3DLKVR4
>=3D20
> It will take away some of the "hands on" creation that we all enjoy, but =
f=3D
or
> those of us who learn computer modeling software the benefits could be
> incredible. For those who do not want to engage in electronic modeling, a
> "master" model could be constructed and a 3d scanner used to input the fo=
r=3D
m
> into the computer.
>=3D20
> Larry
>=3D20
> -----