Lili Krakowski on fri 13 jan 12
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I have no idea where the notion came from that earthenware is more =3D
fragile than high fired stuff. When treated properly, handwashed, not =
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subjected to shocktreatment, earthenware does perfectly well. =3D20
The reason--I maintain-- earthenware is looked down upon, is simple, =3D
barefaced snobbery!
When I was a child there still were "everyday" plates and "good" =3D
plates...which, in an Orthodox Jewish household added up to 8 sets. =3D
Much of the "everyday" tableware was earthenware, cheaper, and the =3D
"good" stuff was porcelain costlier, kept in cabinets, used about one =
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sixth of the time, and passed on for generations. =3D20
The everyday table ware lived a workingclass life. Grabbed, slapped =3D
down on the kitchen table, shoved into the pantry, grabbed out of the =3D
pantry, up to the nursery, bumped, abused...and admirably hardy.
The porcelain was treated as though it were a rich bachelor uncle from =3D
whom one hoped to inherit! Could not be pampered enough.=3D20
No wonder the earthenware had a shorter life than the porcelain!
I have earthenware pots from my schooldays--1951-1953, and earthenware =3D
acquired here and there. It is doing just as well as other ware.
Any trip to a museum will show how well the old earthenware has =3D
survived. That wonderful slipware has made it though centuries. =3D20
To say earthenware HAS to be short lived, and stoneware and porcelain =3D
will GO ON FOREVER is akin to saying your jeans do not last as long as =3D
your silk slacks. Right!=3D20
And your jeans you wear every day, kneel on gravel with them, snag them =
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on the rosebushes, spill "strong" stuff on them--and your silk pants are =
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worn for "lady of the manor" occasions when you do no messier work than =3D
sipping champagne and popping canap=3DE9s into your mouth!
I would expect that stoneware and up can take microwaving and machine =3D
washing better than earthenware. And vitrified are should take soaking =3D
better than porous ware. Otherwise, treated equally, I expect them to do =
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equally well.
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
Steve Mills on sat 14 jan 12
Dear Lili,=3D20
In my experience with the clays available to me over here Earthenware is pe=
r=3D
haps marginally stronger than Stoneware.=3D20
This is because we have more E/ware pieces that are multi-chipped and survi=
v=3D
ing than S/ware.=3D20
The latter chip once ok, but the second one breaks them!
Steve M
Steve Mills
Bath
UK
Sent from my iPod
On 13 Jan 2012, at 13:19, Lili Krakowski wrote:
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> I have no idea where the notion came from that earthenware is more fragil=
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than high fired stuff. When treated properly, handwashed, not subjected=
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o shocktreatment, earthenware does perfectly well. =3D20
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> The reason--I maintain-- earthenware is looked down upon, is simple, bare=
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aced snobbery!
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> When I was a child there still were "everyday" plates and "good" plates..=
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which, in an Orthodox Jewish household added up to 8 sets. Much of the "ev=
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ryday" tableware was earthenware, cheaper, and the "good" stuff was porcela=
i=3D
n costlier, kept in cabinets, used about one sixth of the time, and pass=
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d on for generations. =3D20
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> The everyday table ware lived a workingclass life. Grabbed, slapped down=
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n the kitchen table, shoved into the pantry, grabbed out of the pantry, up =
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o the nursery, bumped, abused...and admirably hardy.
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> The porcelain was treated as though it were a rich bachelor uncle from wh=
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m one hoped to inherit! Could not be pampered enough.=3D20
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> No wonder the earthenware had a shorter life than the porcelain!
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> I have earthenware pots from my schooldays--1951-1953, and earthenware ac=
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uired here and there. It is doing just as well as other ware.
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> Any trip to a museum will show how well the old earthenware has survived.=
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That wonderful slipware has made it though centuries. =3D20
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> To say earthenware HAS to be short lived, and stoneware and porcelain wi=
l=3D
l GO ON FOREVER is akin to saying your jeans do not last as long as your si=
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k slacks. Right!=3D20
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> And your jeans you wear every day, kneel on gravel with them, snag them o=
n=3D
the rosebushes, spill "strong" stuff on them--and your silk pants are worn=
f=3D
or "lady of the manor" occasions when you do no messier work than sipping c=
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ampagne and popping canap=3DC3=3DA9s into your mouth!
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> I would expect that stoneware and up can take microwaving and machine wa=
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hing better than earthenware. And vitrified are should take soaking better =
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han porous ware. Otherwise, treated equally, I expect them to do equally we=
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> Lili Krakowski
> Be of good courage
Lee on sun 15 jan 12
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Steve Mills
wrote:
> Dear Lili,
> In my experience with the clays available to me over here Earthenware is =
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perhaps marginally stronger than Stoneware.
> This is because we have more E/ware pieces that are multi-chipped and sur=
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viving than S/ware.
> The latter chip once ok, but the second one breaks them!
I find this especially true of porcelain. It is so glass-like, that
when it is cracked or chipped, it is like scoring glass where you want
it to break.
We use a big mix of ware: from our Swat Pakistani earthenware
bowls (Danger! Danger! Will Robinson! ;^) ), to our Italian majolica,
to our Fiesta ware, American majolica, my raku and earthenware and of
course, porcelain and stoneware fired in various atmospheres.
We've found our favoirte yunomi and mugs are my earthnware
ones, from my first earthenware firing when I started experimenting
with it again again.
I'm happy to have the torchbearer kiln. I think the
terracotta clay will fire up nicely in slight reduction. I fire
the terracotta on sea shells in electric and get nice flashing to add
to a rustic feel.
see a photo here (I kept this one because the shell scares are asymmetrical=
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:
http://bit.ly/zgwbsY
or
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397862_101504932007170=
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57_550727056_9149672_206841507_n.jpg
--
=3DA0Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://mingeisota.blogspot.com/
=3DA0"Ta tIr na n-=3DF3g ar chul an tI=3D97tIr dlainn trina ch=3DE9ile"=3D9=
7that is, =3D
"The
land of eternal youth is behind the house, a beautiful land fluent
within itself." -- John O'Donohue
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