Scott Harrison on thu 2 feb 12
Hi Folks,
My High School in CA, as all CA schools, cannot charge lab fees for a =3D
ceramics, wood , or metal shop classes. We cannot charge for clay or =3D
glazes unless the student takes the project home. The state gives my =3D
class no money for supplies or equipment so I must raise money every =3D
year for the basics. It's a pretty common story in public education but =3D
my question is how can I set up a system so that students cover the cost =
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of clay if they want to fire their pieces versus just making a project =3D
for a grade and not firing it. I have a pretty good recycle system going =
=3D
with a Peter Pugger. Some of you may have a brilliant solution and I =3D
would love to hear it!
Thanks.
Scott Harrison
South Fork High School
Humboldt Redwoods
Upstate CA
William & Susan Schran User on thu 2 feb 12
On 2/2/12 1:44 PM, "Scott Harrison" wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> My High School in CA, as all CA schools, cannot charge lab fees for a
> ceramics, wood , or metal shop classes. We cannot charge for clay or glaz=
es
> unless the student takes the project home. The state gives my class no mo=
ney
> for supplies or equipment so I must raise money every year for the basics=
.
> It's a pretty common story in public education but my question is how can=
I
> set up a system so that students cover the cost of clay if they want to f=
ire
> their pieces versus just making a project for a grade and not firing it. =
I
> have a pretty good recycle system going with a Peter Pugger. Some of you =
may
> have a brilliant solution and I would love to hear it!
Hey Scott,
I have a similar situation at the community college where I teach. Has been
no or little money in the budget for our entire art program for years, and
years ago I saw this coming. I set up an account in our educational
foundation and encouraged my students to make donations to pay for clay
supplies that in the end would benefit them. I then began a yearly holiday
pottery show & sale with all pots donated by students and myself. This
raises enough to pay for all our supplies for the year. Might consider some
kind of student/teacher pottery show & sale.
Bill
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
John Post on fri 3 feb 12
I purchase wet clay for 28-32 cents a pound. If you are like most
public schools you probably aren't paying your electricity costs. The
costs you need to recoup are the cost of the clay and the glaze
materials.
If it was me, I would charge one dollar per pound with the weighing
happening before the work gets bisqued. A ten pound pot would cost 10
bucks to take home.
I sell my reclaim to my elementary students who wish to make stuff at
home. I charge them a buck a pound and only sell them $2 bucks worth
at a time. I could just give it to them, but then every kid would
want some and many of them would just get in trouble for throwing it
around on the bus. So for a buck or two, they get clay and I just
toss their work in with the rest of the student work I am firing.
Then I use the cash from the sales to purchase art supplies.
John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
http://www.johnpost.us
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> Hi Folks,
> My High School in CA, as all CA schools, cannot charge lab fees for
> a ceramics, wood , or metal shop classes. We cannot charge for clay
> or glazes unless the student takes the project home. The state gives
> my class no money for supplies or equipment so I must raise money
> every year for the basics. It's a pretty common story in public
> education but my question is how can I set up a system so that
> students cover the cost of clay if they want to fire their pieces
> versus just making a project for a grade and not firing it. I have a
> pretty good recycle system going with a Peter Pugger. Some of you
> may have a brilliant solution and I would love to hear it!
> Thanks.
>
>
> Scott Harrison
> South Fork High School
> Humboldt Redwoods
> Upstate CA
David Woof on fri 3 feb 12
Hi Scott=3D2C
I teach at a college and we have to be extremely vigilant about accepting d=
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onated materials etc only thru proper channels and protecting our school fr=
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om liabilities etc etc.
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However I also teach art for a Charter School. I am not hired as an instruc=
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tor=3D2C I contract as a private contractor to provide an art education ser=
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ce so your experience and constraints as to what is acceptable in your scho=
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ol may be different so dot all your i's and cross your t's with the admin. =
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I get scrap clay donated from a local art center=3D2C who's members are dis=
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mforted to just throw it away but have no efficient method or desire to rec=
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laim. They are happy...I'm happy!!! I mix/pug it thru an old Walker(off si=
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te) and fire cones 06=3D2C6=3D2C and raku and pit firings. Several producti=
on p=3D
otters also call me to come and haul away their trimmings and scrap. I can=
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't use it all!!!=3D20
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Other Merchants who appreciate the educational materials dilemma for school=
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s save poster and promotion materials=3D2C and discontinued arts and crafts=
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stuff" for "Woof and his kids"...foam core=3D2C miss matched paints from th=
e =3D
paint stores.......Wood scrap from the cabinet shop.....the list goes on...=
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.
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we scrounge creatively and proudly=3D2C and it also makes the students awar=
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that art materials and art potential is everywhere around them. Hence we h=
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ave $$"s in our budget for Julie's Organic ice cream bars=3D2C visiting Art=
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ts=3D2C field trips to gallerys and working studio potters and artist's stu=
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os.
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David Woof
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8a. High School Lab Fees
Posted by: "Scott Harrison" sharrison@HUMBOLDT.K12.CA.US=3D20
Date: Thu Feb 2=3D2C 2012 11:45 am ((PST))
Hi Folks=3D2C
My High School in CA=3D2C as all CA schools=3D2C cannot charge lab fees for=
a c=3D
eramics=3D2C wood =3D2C or metal shop classes. We cannot charge for clay or=
gla=3D
zes unless the student takes the project home. The state gives my class no =
=3D
money for supplies or equipment so I must raise money every year for the ba=
=3D
sics. It's a pretty common story in public education but my question is how=
=3D
can I set up a system so that students cover the cost of clay if they want=
=3D
to fire their pieces versus just making a project for a grade and not firi=
=3D
ng it. I have a pretty good recycle system going with a Peter Pugger. Some =
=3D
of you may have a brilliant solution and I would love to hear it!
Thanks.
Scott Harrison
South Fork High School
Humboldt Redwoods
Upstate CA
Messages in this topic (2)
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8b. Re: High School Lab Fees
Posted by: "William & Susan Schran User" wschran@COX.NET=3D20
Date: Thu Feb 2=3D2C 2012 2:28 pm ((PST))
On 2/2/12 1:44 PM=3D2C "Scott Harrison" wrot=
e:
> Hi Folks=3D2C
> My High School in CA=3D2C as all CA schools=3D2C cannot charge lab fees f=
or a
> ceramics=3D2C wood =3D2C or metal shop classes. We cannot charge for clay=
or =3D
glazes
> unless the student takes the project home. The state gives my class no mo=
=3D
ney
> for supplies or equipment so I must raise money every year for the basics=
=3D
.
> It's a pretty common story in public education but my question is how can=
=3D
I
> set up a system so that students cover the cost of clay if they want to f=
=3D
ire
> their pieces versus just making a project for a grade and not firing it. =
=3D
I
> have a pretty good recycle system going with a Peter Pugger. Some of you =
=3D
may
> have a brilliant solution and I would love to hear it!
Hey Scott=3D2C
I have a similar situation at the community college where I teach. Has been
no or little money in the budget for our entire art program for years=3D2C =
an=3D
d
years ago I saw this coming. I set up an account in our educational
foundation and encouraged my students to make donations to pay for clay
supplies that in the end would benefit them. I then began a yearly holiday
pottery show & sale with all pots donated by students and myself. This
raises enough to pay for all our supplies for the year. Might consider some
kind of student/teacher pottery show & sale.
Bill
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com =
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