Zoie on fri 30 jan 98
Hands on, glazing workshop with Australian potter Ian Currie, author of
"Stoneware Glazes: A Systematic Approach". Registration begins now.
Space is limited. Two day workshop, April 2 & 4 OR April 3 & 4, 1998, to
be held at the Exchange Club in Hillsborough, NC. Cost is $130, includes
breakfast and lunch both days, all materials and firing costs. Each
participant will take home examples of 175 glazes made over the two day
period. For more info or to register, contact Zoie Holzknecht at
919-933-0115 or zoieeh@acpub.duke.edu.
Craig Martell on fri 6 feb 98
Hi Again:
Ian Currie will be doing a workshop at The Marjorie Sherman Community
Ceramics Center in Salem, Oregon on the 18th and 19th of April. Ian will
also do a free slide lecture, probably at the Library in Salem, on Friday
the 17th, in the late afternoon or early evening. More on this later.
Ian will lead groups of participants through the mixing of glazes for
various temperatures, in accordance with his methods of volumetric blending,
which is a mega-labor saving technique. There is a likelihood that we will
do earthenware, mid-fire, and stoneware temp glazes. The tiles will be fired
on Sat. night so that results can be discussed at the Sunday session. Each
participant will be able to take home several 35 glaze assessment tiles
along with sufficient knowledge and experience to continue their own studies
and experiments.
This workshop and Ian's methods are for ALL levels, professionals to
beginners, and he especially encourages newbies and thoses unfamiliar to
glazemaking to do this. I hope that many will sign up for this workshop and
take advantage of the opportunity of exposure to one of the great glaze
minds of our time.
I don't think the tuition is set yet but they are talking about somewhere
around $90.00. You can reserve a space and get more info by calling the
Salem Art Assoc., at (503)581-2228. Ask to speak with Amy Schwartz, the
education coordinator. If you don't want to call long distance, e-mail
questions to me and I'll ask for you and reply via e-mail.
regards, Craig Martell-Oregon
Cheryl L Litman on fri 14 may 99
Ruth Ballou,
I've tried several times to send you a message about needing to change
the dates for this workshop but the mail keeps coming back undeliverable.
Please get in touch with me.
Cheryl Litman
Somerset, NJ
732-356-2237
email: cheryllitman@juno.com
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Jeanette Harris on tue 31 aug 99
Just finished the weekend workshop provided by Wendy Hampton in Poulsbo WA
with Ian Currie and his magical glaze formulation and testing system.
He's cracked the code for THIS previous glaze-ignoramous.
Picture working on line blends alone, then picture arranging them in such a
way that, instead of only a line of information, you get a rainbow fan-out
of multiple (and duplicatable) results.
Not only that, but you develop the ability to analyze just about any glaze
and create your own multi-sectioned tile index for future reference and
further exploration. This is the kind of tool you will be armed with
after completing Ian's class.
Sound complicated? It looks that way at first, but Ian makes it so clear
that, now that I'm armed with this new knowledge, I feel like I can tackle
any glaze.
Those of you who are in locations to take advantage of this class, RUN to
the phone and enroll!!
And applause for Wendy who did a great job running a really well-organized
and prepared location for the workshop. Great party and band for the
afterward too!
Jeanette Harris in Poulsbo WA
Andrew Buck on thu 2 sep 99
Hi All,
I also had the pleasure of attending the Ian Currie glaze workshop at
Wendy's beautiful studio. I can not think of money better spent than what
I invested in this workshop. I lost count of all the "AH HA" experiences
I had. Ian is a very giving person and presented his method in a very
understandable way. Hands-on experience is the best kind and we got to do
a bunch of hands on work. And the paperwork hand-outs we received will be
treasured reference material. Glaze development will never be as
intimidating a prospect ever again. I can not think of a better, or more
practical, way to get a feel for what is happening in a glaze.
I remember just enough high school chemistry to know what the periodic
chart of elements is but I wouldn't be able to tell you the difference
between moles and gophers in a glaze calculation program. With Ian's
method though, I can actually SEE what happens when you vary the
alumina-silica ratio. I can also see a time when I will be able to look
at a glaze and say to myself "Oh, that is a magnesium glaze" or "This must
be a high feldspar glaze". Understanding glaze calculation will be a
valuable tool in the future, for me, but I know that actually SEEING the
results with Ian's method will make that a lot easier to do.
If you THINK you MIGHT get into developing or trouble-shooting your own
glazes someday or WANT to get a jump-start on the process, DO NOT miss the
opportunity to attend Ian's workshop if it is available.
Andy Buck
Raincreek Pottery
Port Orchard, Washington
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Jeanette Harris wrote:
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Just finished the weekend workshop provided by Wendy Hampton in Poulsbo WA
> with Ian Currie and his magical glaze formulation and testing system.
>
> He's cracked the code for THIS previous glaze-ignoramous.
>
> Picture working on line blends alone, then picture arranging them in such a
> way that, instead of only a line of information, you get a rainbow fan-out
> of multiple (and duplicatable) results.
>
> Not only that, but you develop the ability to analyze just about any glaze
> and create your own multi-sectioned tile index for future reference and
> further exploration. This is the kind of tool you will be armed with
> after completing Ian's class.
>
> Sound complicated? It looks that way at first, but Ian makes it so clear
> that, now that I'm armed with this new knowledge, I feel like I can tackle
> any glaze.
>
> Those of you who are in locations to take advantage of this class, RUN to
> the phone and enroll!!
>
> And applause for Wendy who did a great job running a really well-organized
> and prepared location for the workshop. Great party and band for the
> afterward too!
>
> Jeanette Harris in Poulsbo WA
>
Corinne P. Null on sat 18 sep 99
Well folks, it's all it's touted to be - a revelation in analysis technique
of glazes. First day I was mind boggled and brain dead by the end of the
day. It's tedious work, making those tiles, but oh, my, the knowledge that
comes from seeing the results! I will consider carefully before embarking
on sets to test in my own studio, because of the work involved, but I am
quite certain that I WILL do it myself. Already have a couple of glazes
from the workshop that I'm interested in checking out on larger items. And,
yes, I do feel like I can be my own guru now! Wouldn't dare try to "help"
anybody else, but feel I can at least help myself now, instead of screaming
"help!" everytime I run into a problem. He'll be in New Jersey next, then
Santa Clara, and that's it for this swing around the country. He says he's
willing to come back, if ya'll get enough new workshops planned.
Corinne Null
Bedford, New Hampshire
null@mediaone.net
Doris Slade on thu 10 aug 00
I have been watching for this addition to the Ian Currie workshop to be
posted to the list and I have not seen yet, so bear with me if this is
redundant information.
Doris Slade
>One more workshop has been added to Ian Currie's visit this fall. He'll be
>at Harrisburg Area Community College, October 6 (9am - 4pm) and Oct.
>7(10am -3pm). The fee is $75.
>
>Contact Jim Lard
>717-258-9035 until August 25
>717-780-2432 after August 25
> anytime
>
>Ian Currie's approach to understanding glazes has been mentioned many
>times on Clayart. Students who have studied his method learn how to expand
>a glaze palette and develop an ability to interpret glaze testing results.
>Central to his approach is an appreciation of the vital role that alumina
>and silica play in color response, maturity, crazing and glaze surface
>effects such as mattness, shininess, orange-peel, as well as opalescence,
>opacity and color-breaks. These effects are studied in this hands-on
>workshop that uses "mass production" techniques and cooperative division
>of labor. Workshop participants test multiple variations of glazes over
>the two days of the workshop. Fired results are analyzed the second day.
>
>More information about Ian Currie can be found at http://ian.currie.to
>You can learn about his new book "Revealing Glazes: Using the Grid Method"
at
>http://ian.currie.to/books/revealing/outline.html
>
>Ruth Ballou
>
>
>
>
>
>workshop that uses "mass production" techniques and cooperative division
>of labor. Workshop participants test multiple variations of glazes over
>the two days of the workshop. Fired results are analyzed the second day.
>
>More information about Ian Currie can be found at http://ian.currie.to
>You can learn about his new book "Revealing Glazes: Using the Grid Method"
at
>http://ian.currie.to/books/revealing/outline.html
>
>Ruth Ballou
>
>
>
>
The Slades on tue 26 sep 00
From: "Mert & Holly Kilpatrick"
To: > Also, his second book, Revealing Glazes Using the Grid Method, is
excellent.
> I would recommend starting with that one, and then going back to his first
> book after doing a few test sets with the Revealing book.
>
> If you are patient, and do well following directions, you could learn the
> method from the book. But a workshop makes it painless and fun!
>
> Holly
> (also in PA, and agreeing with DeLana about the winter)
Well, I can't resist a lead in like that. For those of you in the southern
PA/northern MD area, there is another Ian Currie glaze workshop coming up on
October 6 & 7 in Harrisburg, PA on the campus of Harrisburg Area Community
College. We have been very busy gathering equipment, and casting and molding
Lots of glaze grids in preparation. We have plenty of test grids ready and
have a few more spaces available for more people to attend. This is a "hands
on" workshop. Participants will mix and test multiple variations of glazes,
using the techniques from his most recent book, and analyze the results on
the second day.
For those of you who would like to know more about Ian Currie: he is missing
the Olympics, and doing a fall tour in the U.S. from Queensland, Australia.
He has been working with clay and glazes for over 30 years. He is well known
for his methods he has developed for studying glazes - a systematic
technique that reveals glaze principles while discovering beautiful glazes.
He is the author of two books. His original book, "Stoneware Glazes - A
Systematic Approach" presents his "grid method", based on the Seger-formula.
His most recently published book, "Revealing Glazes - Using the Grid
Method", uses a recipe-based system, which makes the grid method more
accessible to potters regardless of their understanding of glaze chemistry.
The price is quite reasonable....$75 for the 2 day workshop and an
additional $25 if you would like to purchase the book.
You may send a check payable to Jim Lard at
Harrisburg Area Community College
Art Department
1 HACC Drive
Harrisburg, PA 17110
Or for further information contact:
Jim Lard jclard@hacc.edu - phone 717-780-2432 or
Doris Slade dslade@epix.net - phone 717-938-3656
Hope to see you there,
Doris Slade
Hluch - Kevin A. on wed 4 oct 00
To all:
There are some spaces left for the Ian Currie Workshop scheduled for
Oct. 21/22 at Montgomery College in Rockville, MD.
The fee is $75 and includes all test tiles, materials and firing.
As many of you have heard, this is an extremely informative and valuable
method of learning about glazes and Ian is an extremely able and wonderful
presenter.
If you ever felt that you should know more about glazes then this is an
opportunity that should not be missed. His most recent book on glazes
will also be available for purchase as well.
Thank you.
Kevin A. Hluch
Professor of Art, Ceramics Coordinator
Montgomery College
Rockville, Maryland
Office - 301-251-7641
Home - 301-662-0369
e-mail: kahluch@umd5.umd.edu
http://www.erols.com/mhluch/mudslinger.html
Howard Scoggins on tue 3 jul 01
I am trying to round-up people and a sponsor in the El Paso--Las Cruces
area for a Glaze Workshop in the late March--Mid May 2002 period.
Currie's book Revealing Glazes is the best, most straight forward
approach I have ever read. All reports from his workshops that I have
seen give him a 4 star rating.
Hope that all you West Texas/New Mexico/Arizona clay folks will jump on
this with me.
Please contact me off list for information, ideas, etc.
Howard Scoggins
Wehrman on fri 22 mar 02
I had the pleasure of hosting a workshop for Ian Currie - the first stop on
his Spring tour.
His grid method is a fantastic tool for understanding, diagnosing and
exploring glazes. It is now an important tool in our studio arsenal.
There were many levels of experience represented in our group, beginner to
26 year veterans, learning, sharing and growing as potters.
Ian is a gracious teacher, infinitely patient and kind. If he is doing a
workshop near you, GO! You will be enriched!
Pat Wehrman
Dodge Lane Potters' Group
www.dlpg.com
Hank Murrow on fri 22 mar 02
>I had the pleasure of hosting a workshop for Ian Currie - the first stop on
>his Spring tour.
>His grid method is a fantastic tool for understanding, diagnosing and
>exploring glazes. It is now an important tool in our studio arsenal.
>There were many levels of experience represented in our group, beginner to
>26 year veterans, learning, sharing and growing as potters.
>Ian is a gracious teacher, infinitely patient and kind. If he is doing a
>workshop near you, GO! You will be enriched!
>
>Pat Wehrman
>Dodge Lane Potters' Group
>www.dlpg.com
Dear Pat;
No news to us in Eugene! Ian starts at 9am sharp on Saturday
at North Eugene H.S. here in the Emerald Empire. He's been working
with me for a week in the studio, and making pots side by side has
been loads of fun. He's pretty easy to care for too! We have two
places left, so call 541-342-8429 if you are near Eugene this weekend
and want to uncover the secrets of glaze formulation. Glad your
workshop was well-received!
Cheers, Hank in Eugene
L. P. Skeen on tue 26 mar 02
Greetings glaze fans! Carolina Clay Guild will host Australian =
potter/glaze guru Ian Currie for a 2-day hands on workshop April 20 & =
21, 2002 near Greensboro, NC. Cost is $125 plus $14 for lunches. Email =
me at lpskeen@living-tree.net for details.
L
L. P. Skeen www.living-tree.net
Living Tree Studios, Summerfield, NC
"Just because nobody understands you does NOT mean that you are an =
artist."
The election ain't over til your brother counts the votes.
Jim Larkin on wed 8 may 02
I just shipped Ian off to Phoenix for the last workshop of his tour this =
go-round. You folks in Arizona put on your glaze hardhats for some good =
glaze construction/deconstruction work. Our folks here left the workshop =
with new understanding, information and challenges. Ian puts on a fine =
workshop.
I would strongly recommend his books to anyone wanting more knowledge of =
glaze development. They are available at his website, www.ian.currie.to. =
Well worth the money.
Regards,
Jim
Jim Larkin
Fox Pass Pottery
379 Fox Pass
Hot Springs, Arkansas
71901
foxpass@aristotle.net
Ceramic Design Group on sun 6 oct 02
We just finished our weekend hosting Ian and 18 others for his 2 day
workshop on the "Grid Method."
If this workshop is offered anywhere near you, or for that matter, within
driving distance or whatever, do yourself a favor and don't procrastinate.
Do this workshop no matter where it is or what it costs.
You will learn an incredible amount. You will learn that glaze testing and
glaze chemistry is accessible to all, no matter what your level of
education.
We had beginners with no knowledge, and others with lots of knowledge.
This is a workshop and presentation that is hands on with lots of
interaction with Ian and those participating.
Do yourselves a favor and take his workshop. I am glad I did.
Ian is a wonderful teacher and a warm and genuine person. I am pleased to
have made his acquaintance and his friendship.
Jonathan
--
Jonathan Kaplan
Ceramic Design Group
PO Box 775112
Steamboat Springs CO 80477
infor@ceramicdesigngroup.net www.ceramicdesigngroup.net
(use PO BOX for all USPS correspondence)
970 879-9139
Plant Location
1280 13th Street
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PurpleLama@AOL.COM on sun 20 oct 02
Clayart rocks and so does the Ian Currie workshop. I just spent two days at
El Camino College (LA, California area) at the Ian Currie workshop. Now I am
eager to test glazes. Ian is a good teacher. Thanks to him the parts of a
glaze and putting it together make sense. Sure, this is elementary glaze
chemistry, but that is all I need right now. Sometimes you just need that
little push to get started and that's what the workshop provided.
Oh, and the participants were interesting as well. I met Bamboo Karen and a
lurker named Kris. There were several teachers there as well - one from the
high school level (wish I had the option to take pottery when I was in high
school) and one from the University of CA at Long Beach and potters at all
levels - expert to newbie. So, rock on, those of you who are about to meet
Ian at San Marcos.
Ian mentioned that he will be back in March. So those of you who haven't yet
experienced an Ian Currie workshop might want to think about finding a venue
for one.
I am not related to Ian, nor did I receive anything in exchange for the above
comments, i.e. this is not an advertisement.
Shula
in not yet sunny Redondo Beach, California
AKitchens on mon 10 feb 03
Would someone who has hosted or attended an Ian Currie
workshop please email me offline.
Thanks,
Nan Kitchens
Architectural Clayworks
Monteagle, TN
AKitchens on mon 24 feb 03
Just want to thank all who emailed me about Ian Currie's Workshops.
Watch this space for info.
We will be hosting an Ian Currie workshop in middle Tennessee this Fall.
Nan Kitchens
Architectural Clayworks
Tennessee & Key Largo
AKitchens on mon 7 jul 03
Ian Currie Glaze Workshop "Revealing Glazes - Using the Grid Method"
http://ian.currie.to
September 12-13, 2003
Dubose Conference Center http://www.duboseconf.org/
Monteagle, TN
(located half way between Chattanooga and Nashville TN )
Hosted by
Nan Kitchens, Architectural Clayworks, Monteagle, TN
Mona Shiber de Kay, Clear Vision Studios, Knoxville, TN
www.clearvisionstudio.com
Ginger Freeman, Cumberland Pottery, Monteagle, TN
Student number is limited to 22, Call to reserve space today 931-924-2109
Cost of workshop is $150.00 per person Room and board is NOT included
(see below).
The workshop runs for 2 full days, usually starting at 9am Central Time
(Chattanooga is on Eastern Time), and going until
around 4 or 5 pm CST The first day is mainly preparing glazes that will
be fired overnight. The second day is mainly the relevant theory and
assessment of results.
The workshop will involve taking participants through the Systematic Recipe
Method (the Grid Method) as outlined in Mr. Currie's new book. Being a
recipe
method, it is accessible to all regardless of their understanding of glaze
chemistry. At the end of the first day students will have possibly 5 sets
of glazes ( about 175 individual glazes) ready for firing, and will
understand the method. The glazes will be fired overnight and participants
will be able to see and assess the results and explore possibilities with
group discussions. Also on the second day there are lectures filling out
the student's understanding of the grid method and glaze theory in general.
There will be a slide lecture giving a guided tour to the different
sorts of
glazes using the grid framework. If time permits, there is also a slide
lecture on Japanese wood firing, and more time to work one to one with
students. The workshop will be located at the Dubose Center in Monteagle.
Rooms and meals will be available on site at the center.
There are local motels and hotels also available.
Rates for Dubose Center Dorm rooms/shared bath
(similar to Arrowmont dorm rooms)
$29.50/ single room
$20.50/ double room per person
There are no TV's or phones in the rooms.
There is a TV in the common living area and pay phones are available.
Meal plans $26.50 per day
Individual meal rates
Continental Breakfast $3.50
Full Breakfast $6.00
Lunch $7.50
Dinner $13.00
A four star restaurant, High Point, is across the street,
and another, Pearls, is within a five minute drive.
Nick Kitchens on tue 5 aug 03
Ian Currie Glaze Workshop "Revealing Glazes - Using the Grid Method"
http://ian.currie.to
September 12-13, 2003 Friday and Saturday 9-5 both days
Dubose Conference Center http://www.duboseconf.org/
Monteagle, TN
(located half way between Chattanooga and Nashville TN )
Hosted by
Nan Kitchens, Architectural Clayworks, Monteagle, TN
Mona Shiber de Kay, Clear Vision Studios, Knoxville, TN
www.clearvisionstudio.com
Ginger Freeman, Cumberland Pottery, Monteagle, TN
Student number is limited to 22, Call to reserve space today =
931-924-2109
Cost of workshop is $150.00 per person Room and board is NOT included
(see below).
The workshop runs for 2 full days, usually starting at 9am Central Time
(Chattanooga is on Eastern Time), and going until
around 4 or 5 pm CST The first day is mainly preparing glazes that =
will
be fired overnight. The second day is mainly the relevant theory and
assessment of results.
The workshop will involve taking participants through the Systematic =
Recipe
Method (the Grid Method) as outlined in Mr. Currie's new book. Being a
recipe
method, it is accessible to all regardless of their understanding of =
glaze
chemistry. At the end of the first day students will have possibly 5 =
sets
of glazes ( about 175 individual glazes) ready for firing, and will
understand the method. The glazes will be fired overnight and =
participants
will be able to see and assess the results and explore possibilities =
with
group discussions. Also on the second day there are lectures filling =
out
the student's understanding of the grid method and glaze theory in =
general.
There will be a slide lecture giving a guided tour to the different
sorts of
glazes using the grid framework. If time permits, there is also a =
slide
lecture on Japanese wood firing, and more time to work one to one with
students. The workshop will be located at the Dubose Center in =
Monteagle.
Rooms and meals will be available on site at the center.
There are local motels and hotels also available.
Rates for Dubose Center Dorm rooms/shared bath
(similar to Arrowmont dorm rooms)
$29.50/ single room
$20.50/ double room per person
There are no TV's or phones in the rooms.
There is a TV in the common living area and pay phones are available.
Meal plans $26.50 per day OR
Individual meal rates
Continental Breakfast $3.50
Full Breakfast $6.00
Lunch $7.50
Dinner $13.00
A four star restaurant, High Point, is across the street,
and another, Pearls, is within a five minute drive.
Alex and Nan on sat 20 sep 03
Thank you, Ian Currie, for the two day workshop you presented in
Tennessee September 12-13.
All the books I have read still don't measure up to the way you
explained the process of good glaze making. My books are better
references for me now, but the basic knowledge you provided suddenly
shed a light on the whole process of making glazes. Now I know I can
tweak a glaze until I produce exactly the surface I want, in a much
shorter amount of studio time.
It was a pleasure to host your workshop and I know all who attended
share the appreciation that I do in learning your method.
Nan Kitchens
Architectural Clayworks
Tennessee and Key Largo (soon)
Larry Davidson on tue 2 aug 05
Ian Currie will be in Twin Falls Idaho September 17 & 18 to do his glaze
workshop. cost $150.00
contact Larry Davidson off list (208)543-6486 or ladavidson@mickey.myrf.net
Larry Davidson on sat 27 aug 05
Ian Currie will be here in Twin Falls, Idaho in a little over two weeks
for his glaze workshop. I still have room for peolpe who are intersted in
attending. Dates September 16 lecture open to the public, he will be
talking on wood fired pots. September 17 & 18 will be the glaze workshop.
Cost will be $150.00
Contact Larry Davidson
208-543-6486 - best in the evening
ladavidson@mickey.myrf.net
Ashley Ott on tue 30 aug 05
Hi Everybody,
I just wanted to let everyone know that Ian Currie will be at =
Hambidge soon! =20
Ian's hugely popular workshops have helped ceramic artists of all =
levels perfect their understanding of glaze formulation, and learn to =
predict surface texture, color effects, and solve problems associated =
with existing glaze recipes.
His weekend workshop will take students through the Systematic =
Glaze Recipe Method. This allows participants to understand the basic =
components and functions of glaze ingredients. Students will leave with =
up to 5 sets of glazes (175 individual glazes), and a clear =
understanding of the SGR Method. I have attatched the brochure info.=20
The workshop will be held OCT. 1 - 2, 10 am - 5 pm
Fees are as follows:
$50.00 registration fee
$175.00 workshop fee
$35.00 supply fee
$12.00 beautiful vegetarian lunches (fee covers lunch for both =
Sat. & Sun.) =20
Total cost: $ 272.00=20
Hope to see you there.
Ashley
Ashley Ott
Ceramics Director
The Hambidge Center for Creative Arts and Sciences
Office (706) 746-5601
Studio (706) 746-3090
ashley@hambidge.org
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Ashley Ott on tue 30 aug 05
Hi Again,
Ooops, apparently attatchments are disallowed, so to get more =
in-depth info. on the workshop, please visit www.hambidge.org, or =
contact me using the email address listed below.
Thanks,
Ashley
Ashley Ott
Ceramics Director
The Hambidge Center for Creative Arts and Sciences
Office (706) 746-5601
Studio (706) 746-3090
ashley@hambidge.org
karen gringhuis on wed 31 aug 05
Ashley -
It might be a good idea to tell people exactly WHERE
Hambridge is --??
Karen Gringhuis
KG Pottery
Box 607 Alfred NY 14802
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Les on wed 31 aug 05
To all the potters in the Pacific Northwest -=20
Our Arrowsmith Potters Guild in Parksville on Vancouver Island (just =
north of Nanaimo) will be hosting an Ian Currie Workshop on September =
10th and 11th/05.
For information you can e-mail me at my address or call the guild at =
250-954-1872
We would be happy to see you. The registration is limited. If you want =
to participate call now.
Les Crimp.
lcrimp@shaw.ca
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