Anita Rickenberg on fri 9 mar 12
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Lenny,
Be careful what your pets are eating/drinking. Unfortunately I had a pet =
=3D
cat
with the same love of drinking the rinse water and he developed renal
failure and died at a young age. Many chemicals that can be
detrimental/fatal are also desirable to animals--a prime example is
antifreeze.
Anita
William & Susan Schran User on fri 9 mar 12
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On 3/8/12 11:41 PM, "Nefsigh@AOL.COM" wrote:
>PS- my older cat, since deceased (21 yrs of age mind you) LOVED Irish
>Spring soap. She (it really) would lick the bars she could find; lick
>your legs
>out of the shower for residue you might have missed; would hang over the
>Jacuzzi and catch Irish Spring bubbles and lick her paws. And yes, she
>was
>healthy as can be and incredibly special.
>Ah, the truly important subjects in our lives.
Cats do have the strangest attractions to odors/tastes.
A tabby & Siamese we had for 18 & 20 years were attracted to various
things.
Whenever we put onions in a hot skillet, the Siamese would come running
and do an onion dance/squirm on the kitchen floor. She also went crazy
over the smell of bleach. Anytime we sanitized the bathroom, we'd have to
close her in another room, do the clean up, do a good rinse, then on
release she would run to the bath tub and just squirm around like she was
drugged.
The boy tabby loved to lick magazine covers - could never leave a magazine
out.
Both of them were always indoors cats.
The one we have now adopted us, was an outdoor/indoor cat for a few years.
She doesn't do much weird stuff, but she knows what she's not supposed to
do and will do one of those things when she wants our attention.
Bill
--
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Robert Harris on fri 9 mar 12
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My cats like the dirty water bowl I use to water the plants with. Or
even the small pond outside.
I have one cat that loves potato peelings ... I have no idea why. She
might get one or two a month. Although they're nightshades, I figure a
couple of potato peelings isn't going to kill her, even over the long
term. I asked the vet about it, her basic answer was ... she's an
outdoor cat ... who knows what she's eating elsewhere, don't sweat it.
Lizards, and frogs for sure. I hear her crunching bones quite a lot in
the spring and summer.
Water with clay and base glazes in it aren't likely to damage your
cat, nor iron etc.
But, just like with humans, if you use glazes with Manganese in it try
and keep that away from cats. Maybe copper too.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:41 PM, wrote:
> Over the years and again just recently (as in tonight) my cats and kitten=
=3D
s
> MUCH prefer water in which I have washed my brushes out --water that has
> remnants of under glazes such as reds, yellows, greens blues,well you nam=
=3D
e
> it. =3DA0They actually seek this water out over ANY fresh water I put dow=
n =3D
for
> them.
>
> I have yet to see any extra body parts growing nor are they acting in a
> manner that doesn't resemble a teenager on sugar...So, why do cats love
> cleaning =3DA0water?
>
> PS- my older cat, since deceased (21 yrs of age mind you) LOVED Irish
> Spring soap. She (it really) would lick the bars she could find; lick you=
=3D
r legs
> out of the shower for residue you might have missed; would hang over the
> Jacuzzi =3DA0and catch Irish Spring bubbles and lick her paws. And yes, s=
he=3D
was
> healthy as =3DA0can be and incredibly special.
> Ah, the truly important subjects in our =3DA0lives.
>
> Ciao
> Lenny Dowhie
--=3D20
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Taylor Hendrix on fri 9 mar 12
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Better question for the ages would be, "Why take safety cues from a stupid =
cat?"
Taylor, in Rockport TX
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Edouard Bastarache on fri 9 mar 12
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Only 5% og ingested manganese is absorbed, no big deal,,
Plejkore,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Harris"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: A question for the ages,,or why do we even fret over safety
stuff??
My cats like the dirty water bowl I use to water the plants with. Or
even the small pond outside.
I have one cat that loves potato peelings ... I have no idea why. She
might get one or two a month. Although they're nightshades, I figure a
couple of potato peelings isn't going to kill her, even over the long
term. I asked the vet about it, her basic answer was ... she's an
outdoor cat ... who knows what she's eating elsewhere, don't sweat it.
Lizards, and frogs for sure. I hear her crunching bones quite a lot in
the spring and summer.
Water with clay and base glazes in it aren't likely to damage your
cat, nor iron etc.
But, just like with humans, if you use glazes with Manganese in it try
and keep that away from cats. Maybe copper too.
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:41 PM, wrote:
> Over the years and again just recently (as in tonight) my cats and kitten=
s
> MUCH prefer water in which I have washed my brushes out --water that has
> remnants of under glazes such as reds, yellows, greens blues,well you nam=
e
> it. They actually seek this water out over ANY fresh water I put down for
> them.
>
> I have yet to see any extra body parts growing nor are they acting in a
> manner that doesn't resemble a teenager on sugar...So, why do cats love
> cleaning water?
>
> PS- my older cat, since deceased (21 yrs of age mind you) LOVED Irish
> Spring soap. She (it really) would lick the bars she could find; lick you=
r
> legs
> out of the shower for residue you might have missed; would hang over the
> Jacuzzi and catch Irish Spring bubbles and lick her paws. And yes, she wa=
s
> healthy as can be and incredibly special.
> Ah, the truly important subjects in our lives.
>
> Ciao
> Lenny Dowhie
--
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Neil Estrick on sat 10 mar 12
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"Only 5% og ingested manganese is absorbed, no big deal.."
This statistic is presumably for humans, not cats or dogs or other animal=
=3D
s.=3D20
Things that are safe for us are not necessarily safe for animals, and vic=
=3D
e versa.=3D20
Like grapes and raisins? They can cause renal failure in dogs. The livers=
=3D
and=3D20
kidneys of cats and dogs process things differently than humans. You cann=
=3D
ot be=3D20
too safe. Your animals should not be allowed to drink anything in your st=
=3D
udio. My=3D20
wife is a vet, so I've heard about accidental poisonings all the time. Be=
=3D
a=3D20
responsible pet owner and cover your water buckets.
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 11 mar 12
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Along with this, many 'pets' end up having slow degenerative diseases
brought about by the actual contents and toxins/contaminants of pet-foods,
and, of lack of proper Nutrition generally, regardless of what the pet food
labels claim.
This then also is a huge source of revenue for the Veterinarians, especiall=
y
as the 'pets' get older, and, all this finally starts catching up with them=
.
Same holds true with people-children, which technically are 'pets' in our
Society, if on a shorter time line as well as on the longer one. The foods
or the diet they are provided or have access to, on all fronts, ensures
autoimmune problems and slow degenerative disease, and, this is big revenue
for the 'healthcareindustry' and insuranceindustry.
Just about everyone I have known over the last couple decades who had
people-babys or very young through school-age people children, were
constantly bringing their children to the doctor for endless Stomach
problems, Ear infections, Sinus infections, Kidney infections, Liver
problems, Bowel troubles, Nervous disorders, fevers, on and endlessly on.
Not so good...
And, of course, those parents would not, can not, shall not EVER seek nor
accept employment anywhere, nor re-marry for a new Spouce, unless 'Health
Care' Insurance is provided for their offspring as part of the package sinc=
e
none of them can afford to provide it themselves.
Of course they 'believe' in 'healthcare'...
Etc...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Estrick"
"Only 5% og ingested manganese is absorbed, no big deal.."
This statistic is presumably for humans, not cats or dogs or other animals.
Things that are safe for us are not necessarily safe for animals, and vice
versa.
Like grapes and raisins? They can cause renal failure in dogs. The livers
and
kidneys of cats and dogs process things differently than humans. You cannot
be
too safe. Your animals should not be allowed to drink anything in your
studio. My
wife is a vet, so I've heard about accidental poisonings all the time. Be a
responsible pet owner and cover your water buckets.
Victoria E. Hamilton on sun 11 mar 12
uff??
Good one Phil! The diet/nutrition scene is hugely important.
Vicki Hamilton
Seattle....mother of 2 extremely healthy adult sons - 35 & 38.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:48 PM
To: Clayart@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: A question for the ages,,or why do we even fret over safety
stuff??
Along with this, many 'pets' end up having slow degenerative diseases
brought about by the actual contents and toxins/contaminants of pet-foods,
and, of lack of proper Nutrition generally, regardless of what the pet food
labels claim.
This then also is a huge source of revenue for the Veterinarians, especiall=
y
as the 'pets' get older, and, all this finally starts catching up with them=
.
Same holds true with people-children, which technically are 'pets' in our
Society, if on a shorter time line as well as on the longer one. The foods
or the diet they are provided or have access to, on all fronts, ensures
autoimmune problems and slow degenerative disease, and, this is big revenue
for the 'healthcareindustry' and insuranceindustry.
Just about everyone I have known over the last couple decades who had
people-babys or very young through school-age people children, were
constantly bringing their children to the doctor for endless Stomach
problems, Ear infections, Sinus infections, Kidney infections, Liver
problems, Bowel troubles, Nervous disorders, fevers, on and endlessly on.
Not so good...
And, of course, those parents would not, can not, shall not EVER seek nor
accept employment anywhere, nor re-marry for a new Spouce, unless 'Health
Care' Insurance is provided for their offspring as part of the package sinc=
e
none of them can afford to provide it themselves.
Of course they 'believe' in 'healthcare'...
Etc...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Estrick"
"Only 5% og ingested manganese is absorbed, no big deal.."
This statistic is presumably for humans, not cats or dogs or other animals.
Things that are safe for us are not necessarily safe for animals, and vice
versa.
Like grapes and raisins? They can cause renal failure in dogs. The livers
and kidneys of cats and dogs process things differently than humans. You
cannot be too safe. Your animals should not be allowed to drink anything in
your studio. My wife is a vet, so I've heard about accidental poisonings al=
l
the time. Be a responsible pet owner and cover your water buckets.
marci Boskie's Mama =3D^..^=3D on mon 12 mar 12
uff??
pdp1 wrote:
Just about everyone I have known over the last couple decades who had
people-babys or very young through school-age people children, were
constantly bringing their children to the doctor for endless Stomach
problems, Ear infections, Sinus infections, Kidney infections, Liver
problems, Bowel troubles, Nervous disorders, fevers, on and endlessly on.
----------
How much of that is caused by the current need to sterilize
everything and pretty much wrap kids in bubble wrap ? ( heavily
sprayed with an antibacterial first, of course. ) Who has a chance
to develop an immunity to anything when they arent exposed to
anything? Heck, as a kid, we ate plenty of dirt ... 6 second rule
.... Nowadays , everything is a disease with a bottle of pills
included... Can't sit still for 2 seconds? have a pill...
As for Phil's comment that "Doctors and Vets are generally
corrupt, disingenuous, cynical, indifferent,"...........WOW ! Glad I
dont live where you do ! I must live a charmed life because I have a
great gp ( a woman ) who takes the time to explain things to me ,
also got a great kidney guy... and as for vets, ours repaired a
crushed leg on a chihuahua that we found ( and still have ) at no
cost to us after he knew we couldnt afford to fix both of the dog's
broken back legs.
marci the chinapainter
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