David Woof on sat 2 jun 12
Hi Cindy=3D2C
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I do not work with Majolica=3D3B so let someone else speak to that=3D2C but=
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o oxide and stain brush drawings on large forms to which I have applied Ron=
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Meyer's white slip as a ground. As you do also=3D2C I add CMC in the stai=
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solutions=3D2C and then if I still need a fixative to secure the design bef=
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e applying a clear or tinted overglaze=3D2C I first overspray a thicker CMC=
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=3D2C (45 Grams to a qt H20=3D2C) being careful to not saturate the surface=
so =3D
as to develop "smearing runs."=3D20
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When all has set one can wax or whatever and handle carefully with confiden=
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ce.
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I do a CMC overspray on any sprayed glaze for the same protection. This el=
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iminates those "charming" paw prints on the inside of an otherwise show qua=
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lity bowl that appear in the fired glaze caused from a moment of careless o=
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r distracted handling during loading.=3D20
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Incidently=3D3B the Meyers slip was published as safe at cones 04-9. I have=
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ushed it to small cone 11.
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David Woof....what else to do but get lost in whatever one loves to do=3D3B=
w=3D
henever=3D2C where ever=3D2C whoever=3D2C over whatever.......Like the 12x1=
2's sa=3D
y: "half measures availed us nothing"
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Date: Sat=3D2C 2 Jun 2012 15:07:06 -0400
From: Cindy Hart Subject:
wax smearing stains=3D20
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hello=3D2CI am trying to paint with stains which I have mixed with frit 50/=
50=3D
and=3D3D20=3D3D added CMC on white glaze (majolica) at ^6. I am having tro=
uble=3D
painting wax over my decoration without it smearing the colors together.Is =
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there a trick to this? I have looked at videos=3D2C looked in the archive=
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etcno one seems to have this problem that I can tell...do I need to add=3D=
3D=3D
20something else to my stain mixture.=3D3D20=3D3D20Thank you for all help a=
nd a=3D
dvice. =3D
Cindy Hart on sat 2 jun 12
hello,
I am trying to paint with stains which I have mixed with frit 50/50 and=3D2=
0=3D
added CMC on white glaze (majolica) at ^6. I am having trouble
painting wax over my decoration without it smearing the colors together.
Is there a trick to this? I have looked at videos, looked in the archive=
=3D
s etc
no one seems to have this problem that I can tell...do I need to add=3D20
something else to my stain mixture.=3D20=3D20
Thank you for all help and advice.
jd.steveni@COMCAST.NET on sun 3 jun 12
Hi Everyone,
I attended Posey Bacopoulous's workshop on Majolica the weekend before befo=
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re Seattle NCECA. Lots of apropos advice and interesting solutions have bee=
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n posted. I will answer this query re wax and smearing based on my own prac=
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tice.=3D20
I have fired at trad temp 1100d Centigrade for majolica (bisque ware at ^04=
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) having worked through various ideas and suggestions from the late Matthia=
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s Ostermann's The New Majolica, and Daphne Carnegy's Tin-glazed Earthenware=
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, and of course you must read through her Maiolica, an update of previously=
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cited book. Superb. All good solid help and directions therein for those w=
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ho wish to fire ware in this style at this temp. =3DC2=3DA0I use cold wax t=
o co=3D
ver painted up areas which I wish to mask off. For majolica. For other work=
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I use a container of candle wax and paraffin (50/50)placed in a water bath=
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on an electric burner with a variable switch. Vent studio space and watch =
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like a hawk. I also find INCREDIBLY useful sintering newly glazed work to a=
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bout 824d C., so that I can paint detailed brush work on majolica without t=
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hings getting smeary/brush dragged. Lots of majolica practitioners use this=
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technique and use it several times over in the course of decorating a comp=
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lex piece to set colors for overlay and additional depth, drawing, lining. =
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This is what the phrase Multiple Firings covers.=3D20
Okay, moving on, THEN because I wanted to combine gloss firings at ^6 to ma=
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ke up reasonably sized loads to cover the throughput/testing I was able to =
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accomplish at the time, I made up RR and JH's majolica recipe from Masterin=
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g ^6 Glazes which uses F3124* (see below). I use M^6G majolica on a white b=
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ody, as IMHO in a test it didn't really have the feel of a trad tin oxide r=
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ecipe on Vashon Red a local offering, at ^6. It blurred/greyed out looking =
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like neither fish nor fowl. Too much iron fluxing, I dare say. The trad rec=
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ipe with tin oxide has good looking melt over red earthenware at the 1100d =
=3D
C.; with some nice rosy breaks on edges if you're looking for this quality.=
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This is an area of personal choice and potential further discussion. Also =
=3D
depends on your frits etc. If you use lead bisilicate (UK and European pott=
=3D
ers)=3DC2=3DA0make sure it's only on the outside, so no leaching occurs on =
food=3D
surfaces. I have to say this because I'm potting in USA now...I adore the =
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soft sheen of lead based glazes. Say what you will, nothing like them. Just=
=3D
have a study of some of the table top books and compare the European/UK lo=
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w fired works against some of the USA work.
Now, quite fortuitously PB provided her paste, using F3124*, recipe cited i=
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n Pottery Making Illustrated Nov/Dec 2009. F3124 50%; Gerstley Borate 50%. =
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Mix by volume. This is the base recipe for making colors to paint on over t=
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he base glaze. For commercial stains the ratio should be 3 1/2 parts Stain =
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Paste Base to one part colorant by volume. TEST first. If you want to fire =
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majolica to ^04 there are excellent recipes cited in this article. =3DC2=3D=
A0Bu=3D
t the PB base and colorants work equally well with the M^6G recipe and I co=
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uldn't be more pleased with combining gloss loads! Used wax resist over are=
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as which I masked out, and here's a big tip. Dry the glazed majolica pieces=
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quite, quite thoroughly. And dry the waxed over areas quite, quite thoroug=
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hly. I use a fan. Place waxed and/or glazed pieces in front of it to get bo=
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ne dry; although I know I won't be touching them until next day. Up here in=
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the top left hand side with the rain and humidity, it's a belt and braces =
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no brainer. =3DC2=3DA0I also feel that dragging and smearing occur when one=
is =3D
too eager to get on with the fun of painting. You must let surfaces dry. BO=
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NE DRY. CMC is probably fine in some glazes; personally, I don't use it. B=
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ut, I do rely on bentonite in glazes which don't have enough clay in them. =
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Dial back a bit and observe Good Practice in being patient.=3D20
Dinah
Mount Vernon, WA.=3D20
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Rimas VisGirda on sun 3 jun 12
You can try spraying the wax, easy to do with a mouth sprayer. Or you can t=
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ry adding some clay or sugar to your mix to stiffen it up. -Rimas=3D0A=3D0A=
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am trying to paint with stains which I have mixed with frit 50/50 and=3D3D=
20=3D
=3D3D=3D0A=3D0Aadded CMC on white glaze (majolica) at ^6.=3DA0 I am having =
trouble=3D
=3D0Apainting wax over my decoration without it smearing the colors togethe=
r.=3D
=3D0AIs there a trick to this?=3DA0 I have looked at videos, looked in the =
arch=3D
ive=3D3D=3D0As etc=3D0Ano one seems to have this problem that I can tell...=
do I n=3D
eed to add=3D3D20=3D0Asomething else to my stain mixture.=3D3D20=3D3D20=3D0=
AThank you=3D
for all help and advice.
Randall Moody on mon 4 jun 12
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>
> _______________________________________________________________
>
> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:07:06 -0400
> From: Cindy Hart Subject:
> wax smearing stains
>
> hello,I am trying to paint with stains which I have mixed with frit 50/50
> and=3D20=3D added CMC on white glaze (majolica) at ^6. I am having
> troublepainting wax over my decoration without it smearing the colors
> together.Is there a trick to this? I have looked at videos, looked in the
> archive=3Ds etcno one seems to have this problem that I can tell...do I n=
eed
> to add=3D20something else to my stain mixture.=3D20=3D20Thank you for all=
help
> and advice.
Cindy,
I mix some spray starch into my stains as a hardener. It seems to work for
me but I don't use majolica or cmc gum. I have heard that the cmc can cause
the glaze or stain to dry more slowly so you may just need to wait a little
longer before putting on the wax.
--
Randall in Atlanta
http://wrandallmoody.com
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